Did they? Sure. Clemson is not a good team
We give the ACC their first win in 10 tries
Not sure what to think. Are we overrated or
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We give the ACC their first win in 10 tries
He can’t handle physical defense and is awful on defense himself. That’s why he didn’t play
I expected this. UK doesn't have an NBA caliber go-to guy. We are what I thought we were. A very good.... But not great .... Team. Road games are tough.
You might be the fluke, Do not see you post here and after the first Pope loss you want to come on and start up some threads. Get out of here.
No Clemson was allowed to play as physical as they want and when we did it was a foul difference of the game, for a blue blood we always get the ****** end of whistles
Probably somewhere in the middle. They are a little overrated but not a bad team by any measure. A top 20 team that will take some losses along the way
I gotta say though. There’s no way in hell that mr hustle #4 should have finished the game with ZERO fouls. He’s one of the most physical playing guys I’ve seen.
This is the right answer. Kenpom has them at 11 after tonight. That feels right.
I’m a Vikings fan. UK feels a lot like the Vikings.
Transition year, good coaching, experienced players, better than everyone thought, never thought of as truly dominant or elite, but due to the randomness of sports good enough to have a chance.
23-11, 2nd round exit. Even after the Duke game, we all knew it was coming. If UK was playing in the Big East, they win 25+ games.
Not in the SEC.
It's no knock on Pope either. He's maximizing the talent on this team.
Not in the SEC.
It's no knock on Pope either. He's maximizing the talent on this team.
We're 1-1 against good teams, and that feels about right. If we can win the games against the non-tourney SEC teams and split the rest that should get us around 11-7 in conference, which last year was the 6th best record. Win one or two more and you're in contention for a double bye, which would be pretty good for a first year coach in the best conference in CBB.
I’m still sticking with the 22-9 or 21-10 final record. The SEC is just to damn loaded this year. Thats why it’s important that Kentucky beat Louisville and OSU
We struggle against high-caliber, quick and aggressive teams.
We looked weak & slow. Looked very tired for some reason.
We're better than we played tonight. No offensive rhytem. Offense looked unorganized & like we did not know what we wanted to do.
I honestly think it was just one of those nights you can't put your finger on. We were in a funky & never came out.
We're better than we played tonight. No offensive rhytem. Offense looked unorganized & like we did not know what we wanted to do.
I honestly think it was just one of those nights you can't put your finger on. We were in a funky & never came out.
Definitely overrated.
Solid, top-20 team, better than I expected honestly.
But not close to a top-5 team. The high end talent just isn't there.
Solid, top-20 team, better than I expected honestly.
But not close to a top-5 team. The high end talent just isn't there.
It's the first week in December, with a 1st year coach, with a roster thrown together.
It'll be okay
It'll be okay
We aren't a top 5 team, but I still think we are a top 20 team that hasn't reached its potential. I think we can be better than we looked tonight with some adjustments, and I don't believe Pope has everything offensively implemented yet either. Given the time Pope had to put together a team though, I'm still very pleased. We lost by only 4 to a previous elite 8 squad in our first true road game. I have plenty of hope that we can do great things this season.
I wouldn’t say fluke. We know this team will die by the three. But there are some glaring issues also. My biggest concern is how bad Jaxon Robinson is in big games. Oweh looked tired tonight. He didn’t have his legs and was leaving shots short but played hard so not too worried.
Carr wasn’t horrible of defense but his offense was miserable. Brea needs some handles. Hes not gonna be open for the rest of the season so he’s gonna have to learn to create some space off the bounce or just pull eye balls. Defensively I think we were pretty good minus the boards. We reverted tonight on the glass.
Carr wasn’t horrible of defense but his offense was miserable. Brea needs some handles. Hes not gonna be open for the rest of the season so he’s gonna have to learn to create some space off the bounce or just pull eye balls. Defensively I think we were pretty good minus the boards. We reverted tonight on the glass.
I think they are currently a top 12-15 defensive team in the country so I don't think, if they are able to keep that up, they will lose 10 games in a crappy ACC.
If by overrated you mean worthy of a 4 ranking? Then yes. I mean the only reason we were 4th ranked is because teams above us played better competition and some happened to lose while we took care of business against scrubs plus Duke.
Most computer systems have us in the 10-15 range. Based on how we did through 8 games now, that's not an overrate at all. We earned that.
Having said that, last night wasn't a fluke either. Good teams lose on the road to other good teams all the time. The line was close. It was always going to be a back and forth game.
Given the SEC this season I think two teams are going to happen that are at complete odds with one another
1) We'll lose a ton of SEC games this season particularly on the road.
2) When it's all said and done, we probably will still be a top 25/top15 team (perhaps even better).
We'll be a good team with a won-loss record that I'm sure people will be disappointed in. But good nevertheless.
Most computer systems have us in the 10-15 range. Based on how we did through 8 games now, that's not an overrate at all. We earned that.
Having said that, last night wasn't a fluke either. Good teams lose on the road to other good teams all the time. The line was close. It was always going to be a back and forth game.
Given the SEC this season I think two teams are going to happen that are at complete odds with one another
1) We'll lose a ton of SEC games this season particularly on the road.
2) When it's all said and done, we probably will still be a top 25/top15 team (perhaps even better).
We'll be a good team with a won-loss record that I'm sure people will be disappointed in. But good nevertheless.
Great? Last great college team I think a guy named Alcindor played center.
This is really extreme take. Almost no team has a backup point guard. It is hard enough to have one. Our bigs might have limitations but they are better than our bigs last year. Agree that Brea needs a hell of a lot more playing time and/or shots. The go to scorer thing has always been overrated in my opinion. I can accept our toughness is lacking but your statements are so binary as to be ridiculous.
The better team does not always win. Simple as that. If the better team always won, Vegas would go broke in 1 night.
We aren’t number four in the country.
Our ranking was inflated by the Duke win.
But Clemson has a good squad.
We shouldn’t be down on this team.
This season is going to be a roller coaster ride. Buckle up and enjoy the ride.
Our ranking was inflated by the Duke win.
But Clemson has a good squad.
We shouldn’t be down on this team.
This season is going to be a roller coaster ride. Buckle up and enjoy the ride.
Unfortunately, this is what will happen most games when our three's aren't falling, or shooting lights out. We rely so much on the outside shot that it will be very difficult to overcome when they aren't falling and/or the other team is draining them, too.
Are we overrated? Maybe by a few spots. Are we overrated according to 40-0 ridiculous prognosticators with absolutely zero root in reality? Absolutely, by a mile. Are we still a capable of winning a national championship? That remains to be determined but I think there are a few reasons why I can say I think so, despite the effort last night. The more time I’ve had to digest the game, I think we have some major questions answered that give me a boost of confidence that this team is as good as I thought they were.
How much NBA talent does Auburn have? What about Kansas, or Alabama or Tennessee? Apparently the NBA thought the answer was none, yet they all look like CBB title contenders. What about Rutgers and Arkansas?