Most of these guys would be better off as Indiana fans. At least then they wouldn’t have to worry about their fellow fans demanding anything better than mediocre.
Nothing changes if Pope can’t solve the recruiting issue
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0 reason to write a negative novel after today. Too long to read anyway!
Likely due to the forum transition glitch. I was victimized.
Keeping JQ healthy and him going in the Lottery will go a long way for Pope and recruiting elite talent.
Instant block. I don’t have the energy for this low IQ kinda of stuff. Good riddance, troll.
Today we saw what is possible when pope has elite talent. So his inability to land said talent should be a major concern.
I encourage you to go look at Michigan state’s recruiting class rank year after year. Or Gonzaga. I’ll take coaching over talent any day
Did you see how much of a difference JQ made today? Look at Yaxel at Michigan. Think they’d be as good without him?
A lot of problems Pope has had and is having could be solved with just a couple of elite players. He and JMI have got to land them more frequently and without stipulations like being out for half the season.
Both of those players transferred from other schools. Why can’t pope get a JQ every year thru portal ?
bc the only reason jq was available was bc he's too young to get drafted so he had to come back, look at the last 7 transfer classes, none of them are as talented as jq
Especially when you consider Yaxel was a ZERO star high school recruit and we had a top portal class last year, I don’t think that poster realizes what an awful example Yaxel is for complaining about Pope’s high school recruiting. Yaxel was a zero star high school player, yet is probably a top 5 player in college this season…and YES I am sad we did not get Yaxel. He’s incredible.
I’m with you in spirit, but I’ll take the best players over talent – especially in a one year scenario. But that’s just me. Others may equate most perceived talent or anticipated future NBA accomplishments with best player. To me the best college players are the ones having the biggest consistent impact on winning this season, particularly when it matters most, rather than projected draft pick position.
That kind of been the problem the last two transfer portals. Had we managed to get a couple of Pope’s first picks, we’re probably a top 5 team right now and last season probably wouldn’t have been as streaky. We’re going after these top 10 transfer portal players but we’re not landing them despite having over $20 million to work with.
Don’t get me wrong, the transfer portal is more important than recruiting high school players nowadays. But getting at least one top 10 guy from high school who has potential to be a lottery pick every year would be a game changer. Clearly he wants them, otherwise we wouldn’t be going after guys like Stokes. But he’s not landing them. Nor is he landing the top portal players that he wants. And that’s been his biggest struggle and the main reason we’ve been struggling.
It’s not trolling. It’s just laying out reality. Sorry that bursts your sunshine and rainbow bubble.
Recruiting has to get fixed. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. You aren’t winning a title living solely off the portal unless you’re bringing it numerous top end guys from the portal and Pope hasn’t shown he can do that. Next years team could have had two top 10 high school guys but JMI blew that. There were two other highly ranked guys that we were in tight on, even lead at one point as well, but they’re gone too.
Some of our fans don’t accept mediocrity. Sunshine pumpers like you and several others are why the program has been allowed to get in the shape it’s in. Yall bury your head in the sand and pretend that everything is fine. I’ve watched a large portion of this fanbase do it for 7+ years now. In those 7+ years we’ve never been realistic title contenders. That’s beyond unacceptable here.
They used to be entertaining at least. Now that trolling is 99% outsourced Russian bot farm trash, even the human trolls are so boring and predictable.
He had a late start last season and no roster and this season he was in on two top 5 kids and JMI wording screwed the pooch. The goalposts are continually moved on Pope
Hurley started out 35-29 at UConn the first two years. I'll mark you down as another who would have fired him before he started winning Championships. Brilliant
When was the last time either of those teams won a title? It takes both. But the best team typically has the best players.
I really liked Moreno and I’m glad he’s here but there’s atleast a dozen or more freshmen I can name off the top of my head that I’d take over him. Probably atleast a dozen more id take after looking at a list of freshmen. The freshman class this year is about as good as any of the last 15 years.
1.) That guy left on his own.
2.) The heat that he did feel was because he stopped pulling off that UK standard the last 6-7 years he was here. His *** got more time than he deserved and should have been fired and not even allowed to willingly leave. That stupid contract is the only thing that saved him that embarrassment.
I’d honestly love to be able to do that but that’s nearly impossible when it’s been almost 15 years since a title, the chances of one this year are next to none and the chances next year look even worse than that. Patience is at an alltime low. We’ve almost gone longer without a title now than we did between titles #7 and #8. That’s kinda mind blowing to think about. Enjoying just having a good season is fine for football but that just doesn’t work for basketball.
I’ll be happy when we win #9. That’s the only goal that matters here.
No, you’re just a loser who has lowered their standards to mediocrity.
Just earlier you acted like the fans were crazy for “running the last guy out of town who pulled off those standards” but here you act like Pope should be given a bunch of time because the previous guy couldn’t get out of the first round for years. Pick a side.
Btw, that argument doesn’t work now. You can absolutely turn a terrible or empty roster into a contender overnight now with the portal. Hell Cal did it in 2009 without even having the portal.
We aren’t at full health. We may not ever be this entire year. Stop gaslighting.
Nope, that’s not true either. “Let the season play out“ is not what they’re saying. What they’re saying is shut up. If you pay close attention, you can see that there is a small handful of the same people who were very supportive of cow, and were constantly shouting down anyone who criticized him. Those same people rally together like the avengers and attack every single thread that shows the slightest bit of concern with what’s going on this season. They want to drown anyone who complains with personal attacks, calling them trolls and fake fans. It’s a coordinated effort because they are continuously congratulating each other, and it’s always the same people. They don’t want the season to play out. They want everyone to shut up.
There’s a deeper issue here. Until Congress steps in and fixes things, college basketball is currently literally the sub-NBA with free agency and no salary cap. That is a major problem.
As of right now Kentucky is no longer a dominant blue blood. A lot of people on this forum are having a hard time letting go and are going through the stages of grief in realizing that. In the current climate, players do not see the benefit of coming to Kentucky, unless the money is right and the playing time is right. That means teams with the right combination of coaching and money will have the best chance to land the best players.
Nobody here wants to admit that the name on the front of the uniform no longer has the magical attraction that it used to. Until people get through the denial and anger stages, you’re going to continue to see bickering, name-calling, and a general state of Civil War in this forum.
Simple question for a simple troll....would 36-29 after two seasons be up to your standards lol? Because if not, you are firing Hurley after two seasons which makes you a fool. Answer the question, are you a hypocrite or a fool
take a moment and enjoy 2 straight wins over P5 teams.
At least we have genuine hope for the SEC now
At least we have genuine hope for the SEC now
Kentucky is willing to spend the money but I still question if Pope is the right fit. Guess we’ll see of he can figure it out.
Who’s he pulling in next year? We’ve had two top guys we were locks for and now we’re probably not gonna get
It seems to me that there are multiple threads saying the same thing. Then there are threads where the topic is completely not "JMI/Pope has to go/standards/can't recruit etc." Maybe people just get tired of nearly every thread being bombarded by the same rhetoric. And it is every single day. By this point every one knows their opinion on it. Saying it one thousand times just derails the board. I for one, would like to discuss the game, other games, anything other than the same thing over and over. And no, this does not make me one to "lower the standards" of UK basketball. It makes me a fan who wants to see how this season progresses. I do not throw in the towel at the first sign of adversity.
Someone called me a troll the other day because I used the word clone at the end of my name. Well. I couldn't recover my old account since 2011. But I'm sure most of you guys remember me as Farsight. I lost all of my likes and posts
Don't have to make 50 threads to point that out. Or state it in other threads that are of a different topic. That is what is annoying. EVERYONE already knows OP's opinion on that.
That’s the problem though, he hasn’t exactly killed it in the portal either. How many players did Kentucky miss out on last offseason? Had we gotten a couple of those, Kentucky isn’t struggling early this year.