Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

[OMlawdog]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

Obviously they must exceed Stan's results. So in the next four years, what are you expecting from the next coach. Im assuming at least two tourney trips and a sweet sixteen over the next four years.

Im interested as to what the bar will be set at in order for the hire to be considered successful.

 

[OMlawdog]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

Obviously they must exceed Stan's results. So in the next four years, what are you expecting from the next coach. Im assuming at least two tourney trips and a sweet sixteen over the next four years.

Im interested as to what the bar will be set at in order for the hire to be considered successful.

 

[coach66]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

championships and NCAA tourney expectations will remain the same. We expect to win and win often.<div>
</div><div>Stans was burned out and he finally realized it. The expectations for winning have not changed.</div>

 

[Columbus Dawg]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

nm

 

[jeremyrbrown]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

 

[Ol Blue.sixpack]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

As bad as LSU is, they could be even worse if O'Bryant tests the waters and Hickey transfers out as expected. Vandy will be decimated. If Calipari gets the Knicks itch, its back to the drawing board for UK. Florida is losing senior talent along with Beal - who is their best player. Maybe Anderson upgrades Arkansas, but they got progressively worse this year - with Pelphrey's talent who some experts used ample bandwidth to rant and rave about. Ole Miss is Ole Miss as long as that nut job is there and Auburn, Georgia and SC are flat out terrible programs. The jury is still out at UT and Bama.

Good opportunity for someone.

One question. Who will Cunningham check the lineups and hold a clipboard for next?

He is the Peachbowl of Mississippi State.</p>

 

[OMlawdog]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

After four years if no sweet sixteen appearances, and two tourney trips with one and done, do you fire?

Im trying to gauge what the expectations are for the next coach in terms of actual results. If he restores discipline and the team plays with great effort, but they only make the tourney once in four years, and never get past the first weekend, are you doing this again in four years? Im not saying you should, Im just wondering how high the bar is for the next coach.

Obviously you don't fire/retire a coach and don't have expectations that exceed what he has done.

 

[TheBigDA]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

More than 3 years without a trip to dance. Sweet 16 by year 5.

 

[OMlawdog]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

Overall its pretty terrible. I think it may be at most a 4 bid league which really makes it tough for a coach to come in and get his team to the tourney. I don't think the Knicks want Calipari, and I doubt they go the college route with all the money they have at stake.

I know O'Bryant was talking one and done back when we were recruiting him, and considering how he played down the stretch, its probably better that he come out now like Randolph did before NBA scouts figure out what O'Bryant can't do. I just can't imagine Anderson not being successful at Upig. It just doesn't seem possible. If AK can't win 10 SEC games next year with everything he has returning and the state of the league, he might as well just focus on fighting terrorism.

Edited to add: Totally forgot about adding Mizzou and A&M. Mizzou is a damn good program and A&M won 24 games and went to the tourney last year.

 

[coach66]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

NCAA tourney 3 out of 5 years and go deep in the tourney occasionally. Put a good product on the floor and see the fans comeback and the atmosphere of the<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span><div>Hump return to what is was when we played balls to the walls. The program has been embarrassing the past two years and I think Stans knew that, his heart just</div><div>wasn't in it anymore. With that said I will always be a Stansbury supporter, I appreciate what he accomplished.</div>

 

[Coach34]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

After four years if no sweet sixteen appearances, and two tourney trips with one and done, do you fire?

Im trying to gauge what the expectations are for the next coach in terms of actual results. If he restores discipline and the team plays with great effort, but they only make the tourney once in four years, and never get past the first weekend, are you doing this again in four years? Im not saying you should, Im just wondering how high the bar is for the next coach.

Obviously you don't fire/retire a coach and don't have expectations that exceed what he has done.

because thats what we have gotten the last 7

 

[MadDawg.sixpack]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

and a sweet sixteen within 4 years

 

[DowntownDawg]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

...and after that average twice in 4 years....no ongoing circus.

Rick was giving us 1 tourney every 5 years (leaving out his great run that ended seven years ago) and a circus every year.

 

[Foronce]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

...when you haven't had one in 14 years

Besides the fact that we have just been decimated with cancers on our team for the last 4 years
We have also lost our 'leaders'
last two years we have lost Varnardo, Stewart, Bost, Moultrie, Johnson, Osby, Benock

if we get a young up and coming coach ...he may have a different system than the motionless motion or the stands stall


my expectations
Compete your *** off ....show effort at all times
Get better/stronger as year goes on
Beat Ole Miss
Look like a competent college basketball team
make the ncaa 2 out of next 4 years, but I really don't know how bad of shape we are in talent wise
if we go into a tournament better than a 4 we should expect a sweet16

 

[OMlawdog]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

I know you think Im some kind of Stans apologists, but Im not. I do not care that y'all fired Stans. After everything you have posted, you should at least have some actual expectations for the next coach over the next four years regardless of who MSU hires.

What are your expectations for the next four years. I know you are giving him a complete pass for next year, so what do you expect to see after year 4? Or do you give him five years regardless? Horn got 4 years, Pelphrey got 4 years, Johnson will probably get 5 years.

If Stans got to the tourney 2 out of 7 years, and that got him fired/retired, then I guess you would expect at least 3 tourney trips in 7 years, and a sweet sixteen thrown in. I know you don't actually think a coach should get 7 years, so over the next four years what are the expectations? I would think at least one tourney trip, at a minimum, and a winning SEC record especially considering how much the SEC sucks.

 

[OMlawdog]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

The reason I mentioned a sweet sixteen over the next four years is because Stans got fired/retired partly due to his lack of post-season success. I would think your next coach is going to have to exceed the results of your previous coach, or you don't fire the previous coach.

Now some may not feel that way due to the discipline issues Stans had and they may be willing to sacrifice some results for a program that doesn't have as many cancers.

I think it is reasonable to expect at least two tourney trips over the next five years at a minimum.

 

[windcrysmary]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

I think he's done good with what he's had to work with...being in miss1 and going up against. Stans. Shouldn't be considered an easy gig

 

[tilla]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

Year One: Play with discipline and effort, recruit your *** off, that's it<div>Year Two: Be a bubble team</div><div>Year Three: Make the dance</div><div>
</div><div>From there: In the dance three out of every four years with a 5 seed or better in one of those years.</div><div>
</div><div>The tourney takes nearly 70 teams now, it shouldn't be that hard to make it 3/4 of the time.</div>

 

[PBRME]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

This is more realistic. Anyone that thinks someone is going to come in and win right away is fooling themselves. We have potentially 4 starters and 1 backup leaving. We have Hood, Steele, and Lewis returning. Let that sink in for a minute and rethink your sweet 16 predictions in 4 years. Our program has prestige, but we don't have players. Whether you want to admit it it not, Stan's is leaving our roster decimated. Next year will be a complete rebuilding project. With or without Stans we'll be lucky to have a .500 record.

 

[Foronce]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

he got fired because he has lost the team the last 3 years
he got fired because he has been the the ncaa tourney in the last 3 years

our expectations really depend on the coach that we hire
we expect to be in the tournament every year, but next year is going to be hard to expect that

 

[00Dawg]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

to include NCAAT success in the equation: it's just too much of a crap shoot. Out of10 NCAA games under Stansbury, I can only think of1 game where a better coaching effortwould've definitivelychanged the outcome of the game (Butler).
That being said, I expect to be in the NCAAT at least every other year. I don't care how you get there, either. </p>

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

1) Will new coach be as successful against Ole Miss as was Rick Stansbury? Probably not.


2) Will new coach be as good as a recruiter as Stansbury? Probably not.


3) Will new coach offer a long term fealty to MSU as did Stansbury? Probably not.


If those expectations are met, then MSU has made an incredible hire.


The other side of the coin:


1) Will the new coach be a better disciplinarian than Stansbury? If he has a pulse, yes.


2) Will the new coach be a better motivator than Stansbury? Unless he is a total bust, yes.


3) Will the new coach excite the fanbase? Considering most of the past season's home games sounded like they were being played in a cemetery, mission accomplished the moment he is hired.


So my expectations are mixed.

 

[weblow]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

the winning will follow that. That is ALL I am looking for from a new coach.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

i know he said "i'm out" but other than that i haven't heard any definitive answer of him coming back. if the new coach tells him to hit the 17in door then that alone buys 3 years with me regardless of success. <div>
</div><div>edit: and make sure we have 3 post players better than lewis</div>

 

[Daledog]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

This board is a 17ing joke, full of absolute delusional idiots. Please see the below quotes from the various morons on this board.
"From there: In the dance three out of every four years with a 5 seed or better in one of those years."
"make the ncaa 2 out of next 4 years, but I really don't know how bad of shape we are in talent wise"
"A tourney trip by year 4 and after that average twice in 4 years....no ongoing circus."
"Finish top 3 in SEC, top-25 ranked and a sweet sixteen within 4 years"
"I'll give him 3 years to make the dance, then expect not to go more than
3 years without a trip to dance. Sweet 16 by year 5."
The NCAA tourney started in 1939, it's been going 73 years. We have made it to the sweet 16 3 times in 58, 95, and 96. We have made it the NCAA tournament 10 times (6 being under Stansbury). The statements above are your expectations, not what you are hoping for or the ideal situation. You are expecting to make it to the sweet 16 in the next 4 or 5 years when we have made it only 3 times in 73 years. UNBELIEVABLE!!! You are expecting to make the NCAA tournament 50% of the time or greater!!! UNBELIEVABLE!!! This **** is the equivalent of Ole Miss fans expecting an NCAA championship in football. It's a 17ing joke.

 

[bulldogbaja]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

50% of the time is unrealistic

 

[smootness]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

and then judging your coach using that belief.

 

[Daledog]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

Clearly you have a lack of understanding of NCAA basketball. With roughly 30-32 automatic qualifiers, you technically have to be in the top 35-40 in order to make the NCAA tournament. In addition, because you only play 5 players in basketball, that allows smaller schools that normally wouldn't be competitive in football or baseball to actually be competitive in basketball. So it is actually harder to be in the top 40 in basketball than in football and baseball.

 

[Cousin Jeffrey]

Now the important question, regardless of who MSU hires, what are the expectations?

I expect effort, discipline, and sound fundamentals. With that, winning will follow, and off-court drama will likely go away for the most part.<div>
</div><div>As far as on-the-court results...</div><div>I certainly don't expect a Sweet 16 in the next 4 years. Next year could be rough, player wise. We're losing a lot. And the program has regressed the last several years. So that would be a high bar to set. Expecting 2 NCAA tournament appearances in 4 years might be a stretch. I'd say 2 in 5 years wouldn't be unreasonable, though.</div><div>
</div><div>Seriously, I just want to see the program's culture change. It's been nothing but drama and disappointment lately. Make that go away and put a product on the floor I can get behind (100% effort with solid fundamentals and game-planning) and I think the results will follow.</div><div>
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