NSA to provide smoking gun proof of spying on Trump Transition Team?

WVPATX

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This can't be good. What will the FBI do if this is true?

Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source says

By James Rosen

Published March 23, 2017
FoxNews.com
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Republican congressional investigators expect a potential “smoking gun” establishing that the Obama administration spied on the Trump transition team, and possibly the president-elect himself, will be produced to the House Intelligence Committee this week, a source told Fox News.

Classified intelligence showing incidental collection of Trump team communications, purportedly seen by committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., and described by him in vague terms at a bombshell Wednesday afternoon news conference, came from multiple sources, Capitol Hill sources told Fox News. The intelligence corroborated information about surveillance of the Trump team that was known to Nunes, sources said, even before President Trump accused his predecessor of having wiretapped him in a series of now-infamous tweets posted on March 4.

The intelligence is said to leave no doubt the Obama administration, in its closing days, was using the cover of legitimate surveillance on foreign targets to spy on President-elect Trump, according to sources.

The key to that conclusion is the unmasking of selected U.S. persons whose names appeared in the intelligence, the sources said, adding that the paper trail leaves no other plausible purpose for the unmasking other than to damage the incoming Trump administration.

The FBI hasn’t been responsive to the House Intelligence Committee’s request for documents, but the National Security Agency is expected to produce documents to the committee by Friday. The NSA document production is expected to produce more intelligence than Nunes has so far seen or described – including what one source described as a potential “smoking gun” establishing the spying.

Some time will be needed to properly assess the materials, with the likely result being that congressional investigators and attorneys won’t have a solid handle on the contents of the documents – and their implications – until next week.

Because Nunes’s intelligence came from multiple sources during a span of several weeks, and he has not shared the actual materials with his committee colleagues, he will be the only member of the panel in a position to know whether the NSA has turned over some or all of the intelligence he is citing. However, Fox News was told Intelligence Committee Ranking Member Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., had been briefed on the basic contents of the intelligence described by Nunes.

CIA Director Mike Pompeo is also sympathetic to the effort to determine, with documentary evidence, the extent of any alleged Obama administration spying on the Trump team, sources said.

At a dramatic Wednesday news conference, Nunes claimed to have seen evidence that members of the Trump transition team, possibly including the president-elect, were subjected to “incidental surveillance” collection that Nunes characterized as legal but troubling.

“What I've read bothers me,” he told reporters, “and I think it should bother the president himself, and his team because I think some of it seems to be inappropriate.”

Schiff blasted Nunes for not coming first to the Intelligence Committee with the information.

"If accurate, this information should have been shared with members of the committee, but it has not been," Schiff said in a Wednesday statement.


James Rosen joined Fox News Channel (FNC) in 1999. He currently serves as the chief Washington correspondent and hosts the online show "The Foxhole." His latest book is "A Torch Kept Lit: Great Lives of the Twentieth Century" (Crown Forum, October 4, 2016).
 

WVPATX

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Unnamed sources are worthy of report for FOX I see? Paxx, you are officially FOS my friend.

Unnamed sources have been used by every major or minor media outlet forever. What are you talking about? This is standard practice.

I am not saying this will come to fruition but that is what Fox is reporting. If you want a blatant example of this (much more "unnamed and speculative), read CNN's piece from yesterday on "possible ties of Trump associates to Russia and potential collusion."

This goes both ways, Boom.

Just one small example:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/polit...ssociates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians/
 

Boomboom521

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Unnamed sources have been used by every major or minor media outlet forever. What are you talking about? This is standard practice.

I am not saying this will come to fruition but that is what Fox is reporting. If you want a blatant example of this (much more "unnamed and speculative), read CNN's piece from yesterday on "possible ties of Trump associates to Russia and potential collusion."

This goes both ways, Boom.

Just one small example:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/polit...ssociates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians/
Maybe you're NOT one of the wingnuts on here bashing CNN as fake news every time they cite unnamed sources? You better hope my day isn't so horribly boring that I go back and find a past post, paxx. Let's be honest here
 

WVPATX

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Maybe you're NOT one of the wingnuts on here bashing CNN as fake news every time they cite unnamed sources? You better hope my day isn't so horribly boring that I go back and find a past post, paxx. Let's be honest here

Boom, I can put the shoe on your foot. If you accepted other reports with anonymous sources and then complained about this one, are you being hypocritical?

I like debating with you Boom. But it would be much better for both of us if we showed mutual respect and stopped the name calling. Don't you agree? I would much prefer to keep our debates civil.
 

Boomboom521

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Boom, I can put the shoe on your foot. If you accepted other reports with anonymous sources and then complained about this one, are you being hypocritical?

I like debating with you Boom. But it would be much better for both of us if we showed mutual respect and stopped the name calling. Don't you agree? I would much prefer to keep our debates civil.
I didn't say anything about this report....you just assume everyone on the left thinks the same
 

Boomboom521

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Boom, I can put the shoe on your foot. If you accepted other reports with anonymous sources and then complained about this one, are you being hypocritical?

I like debating with you Boom. But it would be much better for both of us if we showed mutual respect and stopped the name calling. Don't you agree? I would much prefer to keep our debates civil.
I thought wingnut was an affectionate term?
 

WVPATX

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I didn't say anything about this report....you just assume everyone on the left thinks the same

Boom, you complained about the use of anonymous sources. You posted:

Unnamed sources are worthy of report for FOX I see? Paxx, you are officially FOS my friend.

You were questioning the report because of its use of anonymous sources, (and it should be questioned). Is it accurate? Is it factual? We don't really know yet. But I think we will find out.
 

Boomboom521

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Boom, you complained about the use of anonymous sources. You posted:

Unnamed sources are worthy of report for FOX I see? Paxx, you are officially FOS my friend.

You were questioning the report because of its use of anonymous sources, (and it should be questioned). Is it accurate? Is it factual? We don't really know yet. But I think we will find out.
No. I was questioning your posting of the report as if it was worthy of credibility when so many of the same unnamed sourced articles are ridiculed as "fake news" by Trump supporters and Trump himself.
 

WVPATX

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No. I was questioning your posting of the report as if it was worthy of credibility when so many of the same unnamed sourced articles are ridiculed as "fake news" by Trump supporters and Trump himself.

And as I stated, you have accepted articles critical of Trump, claiming ties to Russia using unnamed sources. Why are you now questioning articles stating the NSA has a smoking gun using anonymous sources?

Many, many articles claiming Trump/Russian connections have been posted to the board citing anonymous sources. Did you complain then?
 

WVPATX

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But not you?

I freely admit I don't like anonymous sources. But posting an article is far different than stating that everything in the article is 100% accurate especially in light of the use of anonymous sources. Everyone posts articles like this. Why are you offended by this one?
 

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Unnamed sources say that unless WVPATX sends me all his money everybody in the world will be dead tomorrow. Come on, WVPATX, what are you waiting for, send it already.
 

WVPATX

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Unnamed sources say that unless WVPATX sends me all his money everybody in the world will be dead tomorrow. Come on, WVPATX, what are you waiting for, send it already.

You've never seemed to mind anonymous sources when the reports claim Trump possible collusion with Russia. Why complain about them now?
 

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So now "incidental collection" is "spying on Trump"? According to the GOP, it's hands off Russia because we don't want to 'accidentally' catch Trump on one of his shady calls. That's laughable at best, treasonous at worst. Who do these people think they are? We're now suppose to tailor spying around Team Trump? Fck them.
 

Boomboom521

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And as I stated, you have accepted articles critical of Trump, claiming ties to Russia using unnamed sources. Why are you now questioning articles stating the NSA has a smoking gun using anonymous sources?

Many, many articles claiming Trump/Russian connections have been posted to the board citing anonymous sources. Did you complain then?
I WASNT QUESTIONING THE ARTICLE.....Just whether or not it's hypocritical of YOU to post it
 

Boomboom521

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I freely admit I don't like anonymous sources. But posting an article is far different than stating that everything in the article is 100% accurate especially in light of the use of anonymous sources. Everyone posts articles like this. Why are you offended by this one?
Because it's UNNAMED SOURCES and YOU
 

Boomboom521

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Leftist is not a pejorative it's a description. Just a righty is not a pejorative.
It indicates communist affiliation (as in the 50's and 60's) and degrades the emphasis the political ideology of the left puts on democracy and republicanism. Again, I'm not complaining....I know who I am....sticks and stones brother. Just don't knock my parenting or question my love of my family or my nation
 

WVPATX

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It indicates communist affiliation (as in the 50's and 60's) and degrades the emphasis the political ideology of the left puts on democracy and republicanism. Again, I'm not complaining....I know who I am....sticks and stones brother. Just don't knock my parenting or question my love of my family or my nation

I have been called a righty many times or right wing, many times and I have never taken offense or thought that that related me to Hitler in anyway. I think you were being oversensitive in that being called a lefty does not mean you're a communist. It simply means that you are a liberal. Just as a righty means I am a conservative.