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SlickRich28120

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As day one of practice begins and comes to a end wondering what everybody’s numbers are gonna be ? Varsity and J.V. ?
 

mbdfan_rivals121259

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Well it certainly looks like Robbinsville is going to have more players on varsity than Murphy.

I was told there were 29 kids out there for varsity practice this evening and when I drove by the practice field around seven o'clock that looked entirely accurate to me, sparse looking group.

I don't know that Murphy has ever had that few kids on varsity, certainly not in my lifetime.
 
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Gentle Knight

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The Knights varsity had a couple out of practice today I was told. Should end up with 43 or 44
 

SitOut

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Tarboro
Varsity—50
JV—36
How does your numbers typically breakdown into grade level? Is JV mostly freshman and some sophomores? Varsity Juniors and Seniors some sophomores?

SMC calls it JV but its more like JH. Their numbers will include some 7th and 8th graders. All sophomores go to Varsity.
 

HowerinJr

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Jan 9, 2010
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How does your numbers typically breakdown into grade level? Is JV mostly freshman and some sophomores? Varsity Juniors and Seniors some sophomores?

SMC calls it JV but its more like JH. Their numbers will include some 7th and 8th graders. All sophomores go to Varsity.
In most cases, Varsity is grades 11 and 12. JV is 9 and 10. Martin and Pattillo have a combined middle school team with grades 7 & 8. Occasionally a grade 10 will make it onto Varsity to begin the year, but it doesn't happen often. Point of reference, Todd Gurley started his sophomore year at JV. I think Tyquan Lewis played varsity his sophomore year and current Tarboro DE Ja'viyes Massenburg definitely played as a sophomore. The only guys that play Varsity at Tarboro as sophomores are freakishly talented players at positions where elite talent is scarce. At every level of football, defensive ends are extremely hard to come by so you see the trend.
 
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KnightyKnight63

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Well it certainly looks like Robbinsville is going to have more players on varsity than Murphy.

I was told there were 29 kids out there for varsity practice this evening and when I drove by the practice field around seven o'clock that looked entirely accurate to me, sparse looking group.

I don't know that Murphy has ever had that few kids on varsity, certainly not in my lifetime.
I've said all along that Murphy graduated too much talent to be at the same level they were at last year. A new, sophomore QB/a tailback who runs soft/an undersized fullback, and a wide receiver converting to wing. To top it off, there is nothing behind those players if one goes down. That will be mitigated by a good line, but it isn't going to be enough to take down the Knights. Murphy and Swain is a toss up, but the edge to the Devils since it is in Bryson City. This is the year Murphy falls off ... 3rd place. Robbinsville Black Knights 2019 SMC Champions, bet on it.
 

mbdfan_rivals121259

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I've said all along that Murphy graduated too much talent to be at the same level they were at last year. A new, sophomore QB/a tailback who runs soft/an undersized fullback, and a wide receiver converting to wing. To top it off, there is nothing behind those players if one goes down. That will be mitigated by a good line, but it isn't going to be enough to take down the Knights. Murphy and Swain is a toss up, but the edge to the Devils since it is in Bryson City. This is the year Murphy falls off ... 3rd place. Robbinsville Black Knights 2019 SMC Champions, bet on it.
Not sure I know anyone that thought Murphy would be quite at the level they were at last year. This year's senior class is too light and 'Dogs lost several multi year starters to graduation.

Now with that said if the starting backfield stays healthy Murphy is assuredly going to be better than you seem to think, the starting units are going to be good. However they can not afford ANY injuries to their backfield starters or all bets are off.

Robbinsville is going to have to be a good bit better than Murphy to win at the Hill, sorry but I don't see a Knights win in Murphy barring skill injuries for the 'Dogs. The more likely scenario is a three way tie for first with Robbinsville beating Swain, Swain beating Murphy and Murphy beating Robbinsville.
 
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Cold Biscuit

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Dec 28, 2013
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I've said all along that Murphy graduated too much talent to be at the same level they were at last year. A new, sophomore QB/a tailback who runs soft/an undersized fullback, and a wide receiver converting to wing. To top it off, there is nothing behind those players if one goes down. That will be mitigated by a good line, but it isn't going to be enough to take down the Knights. Murphy and Swain is a toss up, but the edge to the Devils since it is in Bryson City. This is the year Murphy falls off ... 3rd place. Robbinsville Black Knights 2019 SMC Champions, bet on it.

Robbinsville is pretty salty this pre season to have not even played a game yet. Murphy still has the best line in the conference. Really, how deep is Robbinsville's backfield?
 

Gentle Knight

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Robbinsville is pretty salty this pre season to have not even played a game yet. Murphy still has the best line in the conference. Really, how deep is Robbinsville's backfield?
Its pretty deep now..We are loaded at Receiver..Some will be transferred to running backs. Robbinsville passing game is going to surprise alot of people. I'm with mbfan. 3 way tie for SMC
 

Cold Biscuit

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Its pretty deep now..We are loaded at Receiver..Some will be transferred to running backs. Robbinsville passing game is going to surprise alot of people. I'm with mbfan. 3 way tie for SMC

You always seem to use common sense in your post. I certainly agree that any of the 3 can beat the other this year. I just think that post was silly. How good is Swain without Sein? Robbinsville without Anderson? That works the same for any of the big 3. You're very foolish if you don't think that losing any of those kids won't effect their team.
 

KnightyKnight63

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You always seem to use common sense in your post. I certainly agree that any of the 3 can beat the other this year. I just think that post was silly. How good is Swain without Sein? Robbinsville without Anderson? That works the same for any of the big 3. You're very foolish if you don't think that losing any of those kids won't effect their team.
You can't compare the Murphy backfield to Anderson/Hooper or to Swain's Sain. Those are all proven backs in this conference. My point is not about losing one of the starters. My point is that your starters aren't proven and aren't as good. Go back to my posts last season when I wrote about last year's starting wing, who I hear is going to be your starting tailback this season. He didn't want to get hit last year as a wing. What is he going to do this year trying to run up the middle? My opinion .... and yes it is only MY opinion .... he's not going to be successful. Yeah, he'll do it against Andrews/Rosman/Hayesville. I think you'll see right off against Pisgah that he is going to lay down.
 

Swaindad40

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Swain 37 on varsity and looking solid everywhere. It has been a very good preseason and they have really bonded as a team.

JV has 24 players. Young in several areas but I think we will be competitive but with any young team there are going to be some mistakes that can cost you and it will be hard to beat older more experienced teams.
 
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Gentle Knight

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Im not knocking Swain.What hurts Swain is all they have is Sain..I will say again if you stop Sain,you stop Swain..and you stop them bad..It was proven over and over and over last year.
If he goes down , their is Nobody else on that team even capable of scoring. HE is their everything ..I'm in Bryson 4 or 5 times a week. Every fan I've talked to is dreading the season.
 

mbdfan_rivals121259

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You can't compare the Murphy backfield to Anderson/Hooper or to Swain's Sain. Those are all proven backs in this conference. My point is not about losing one of the starters. My point is that your starters aren't proven and aren't as good. Go back to my posts last season when I wrote about last year's starting wing, who I hear is going to be your starting tailback this season. He didn't want to get hit last year as a wing. What is he going to do this year trying to run up the middle? My opinion .... and yes it is only MY opinion .... he's not going to be successful. Yeah, he'll do it against Andrews/Rosman/Hayesville. I think you'll see right off against Pisgah that he is going to lay down.
Murray had 13 carries for 90 yards against Pisgah last season, was Murphy's leading rusher in that game. Pisgah easily had the best d-line Murphy saw all year and better than what Robbinsville will put on the field this year. This idea that Murray can't get tough yards or succeed against better teams is hilarious. Murray ran for a 115 yds on 12 carries against a 13-1 Franklin team as a sophomore, was Murphy's leading rusher in that game. He had a 40 yard run right up the gut against your Knights last season.

I'm afraid you're in for a rude awakening when it comes to what he's capable of. He will have a huge season if he stays healthy.
 

Gentle Knight

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Not sure I know anyone that thought Murphy would be quite at the level they were at last year. This year's senior class is too light and 'Dogs lost several multi year starters to graduation.

Now with that said if the starting backfield stays healthy Murphy is assuredly going to be better than you seem to think, the starting units are going to be good. However they can not afford ANY injuries to their backfield starters or all bets are off.

Robbinsville is going to have to be a good bit better than Murphy to win at the Hill, sorry but I don't see a Knights win in Murphy barring skill injuries for the 'Dogs. The more likely scenario is a three way tie for first with Robbinsville beating Swain, Swain beating Murphy and Murphy beating Robbinsville.
It's hard to win at Murphy. .very hard.
We pulled it off in 14 and 15.
All I can say about this years Robbinsville team is they SHOULD be much much better than last year. I have been told they ARE indeed that..One of the hardest working crews to ever come through.
How that works out in the win loss column, I have no idea. Could be 11-0 or 7-4.
Murphy Robbinsville Mitchell will be your 1A champion
 

ThePolkNation

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If Murphy has a kid that’s been offered by a ton of sec acc schools he will dominate in a 1a team . Question he gotta be biggest 1a recruit in the west in some time ?
 

BulldogDad27-23

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You can't compare the Murphy backfield to Anderson/Hooper or to Swain's Sain. Those are all proven backs in this conference. My point is not about losing one of the starters. My point is that your starters aren't proven and aren't as good. Go back to my posts last season when I wrote about last year's starting wing, who I hear is going to be your starting tailback this season. He didn't want to get hit last year as a wing. What is he going to do this year trying to run up the middle? My opinion .... and yes it is only MY opinion .... he's not going to be successful. Yeah, he'll do it against Andrews/Rosman/Hayesville. I think you'll see right off against Pisgah that he is going to lay down.
You can't compare Murphy's backfield to those kids? That's funny. Murray has two state rings and Dorsey has one. Murray is a three year starter on a team where he had more than plenty of talented kids competing with him for a starting backfield spot. Dorsey if at either school rville or swain would have been a three year starter and IMO their best athlete in the backfield. Yes the other two backfield starters are sophomores, but weren't the other kids you refer to at one time also starting sophomores and in your words "unproven" hard to be proven as a sophomore...I dont know much about our QB but I believe he stands a very good chance of being a very solid player. Our sophomore FB is one of the toughest, hardest runners you will see this year. I promise you our coaching staff would not trade him for anyone and I am very much looking forward to watching the next 3 years with him. You say it's your opinion that Murray will not be successful and he is going to lay down. Well it's my opinion that you are already unsuccessful because in my opinion a successful somebody doesn't put highschool kids down or talk trash about kids playing a game in general. I'm betting Murray has more grit, toughness and success is his little finger than you have ever had.
 

Cold Biscuit

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Dec 28, 2013
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You can't compare Murphy's backfield to those kids? That's funny. Murray has two state rings and Dorsey has one. Murray is a three year starter on a team where he had more than plenty of talented kids competing with him for a starting backfield spot. Dorsey if at either school rville or swain would have been a three year starter and IMO their best athlete in the backfield. Yes the other two backfield starters are sophomores, but weren't the other kids you refer to at one time also starting sophomores and in your words "unproven" hard to be proven as a sophomore...I dont know much about our QB but I believe he stands a very good chance of being a very solid player. Our sophomore FB is one of the toughest, hardest runners you will see this year. I promise you our coaching staff would not trade him for anyone and I am very much looking forward to watching the next 3 years with him. You say it's your opinion that Murray will not be successful and he is going to lay down. Well it's my opinion that you are already unsuccessful because in my opinion a successful somebody doesn't put highschool kids down or talk trash about kids playing a game in general. I'm betting Murray has more grit, toughness and success is his little finger than you have ever had.

Murphy FB is a junior, wing and tail seniors and QB sophomore.
 

mbdfan_rivals121259

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Murphy FB is a junior, wing and tail seniors and QB sophomore.
People acting like Murphy's backfield is a ? mark I guess didnt pay attention to the same trio of Murray, Rathburn and Dorsey excelling together on JV in the same roles they will be in on varsity this year. This is a good starting backfield, just not much depth behind them.

And lost in all this backfield talk is the fact that Murphy is going to have two big time talents at reciever with McCracken and Abling.

That's a really good starting skill group overall, period. And they will be really good again next year if they can find one more stud back, be it a transfer and/or Crowder finally coming out.
 
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BulldogDad27-23

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Murphy FB is a junior, wing and tail seniors and QB sophomore.
I stand corrected I guess he is a junior. I just know when he came in he was a really good hard nosed runner that gave 110 percent every play. He learned from one of the best in KJ and baring injury he is going to be a real weapon. I was wrong about his age but the rest I said about him is true imo.
 
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Swaindad40

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Murphy does not have ? In their backfield. They have talent and will put up some yards as a team just like they always do. Murray and Dorsey are going to excel in Murphy’s offense.
 
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I know Anderson could get hurt but I think its highly unlikely. He's like the Energizer Buddy.

Not all backs can carry the ball 250 plus times a season.
 

Gps62

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You can't compare Murphy's backfield to those kids? That's funny. Murray has two state rings and Dorsey has one. Murray is a three year starter on a team where he had more than plenty of talented kids competing with him for a starting backfield spot. Dorsey if at either school rville or swain would have been a three year starter and IMO their best athlete in the backfield. Yes the other two backfield starters are sophomores, but weren't the other kids you refer to at one time also starting sophomores and in your words "unproven" hard to be proven as a sophomore...I dont know much about our QB but I believe he stands a very good chance of being a very solid player. Our sophomore FB is one of the toughest, hardest runners you will see this year. I promise you our coaching staff would not trade him for anyone and I am very much looking forward to watching the next 3 years with him. You say it's your opinion that Murray will not be successful and he is going to lay down. Well it's my opinion that you are already unsuccessful because in my opinion a successful somebody doesn't put highschool kids down or talk trash about kids playing a game in general. I'm betting Murray has more grit, toughness and success is his little finger than you have ever had.
What everyone is looking over is MHS will have one of the best if not the best O line in the state. Put that talent behind them and we all shall see how many rushing yards the bulldogs will have this year!
 

mbdfan_rivals121259

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What everyone is looking over is MHS will have one of the best if not the best O line in the state. Put that talent behind them and we all shall see how many rushing yards the bulldogs will have this year!
Yes, this will be one of the better o-lines Murphy has fielded, period. Best o-line in 1A/1AA if they stay healthy, I feel confident in that.
 
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Swaindad40

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All fullbacks look undersized compared to KJ Allen

This kid was a load! He will be missed for sure. I felt bad for any safety that had to tackle him one on one several times in one game. Was he recruited to play ball? I have not heard....