Nutt gets a jab in on Mullen at Conerly presentation

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is that Alabama will dominate. They don't lose too much and the guys they do lose, they just move the next 5 star into that spot. Arenas will be the biggest hit.
 

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RebelBruiser said:
SoxFan343 said:
but he does have a ton of physical ability.

He doesn't like not starting. Next season he shouldn't have to worry about that too much.

If Orgeron were still around, Rishaw would probably be gone already. Fortunately, Nutt understands his depth chart and has given Rishaw some extra leash given the state of our OL for 2010. We have some quality young OL on the team, but I don't expect to see most of them ready until 2011.
I have a theory why Orgeron would not keep Rishaw around and Nutt will. Because Orgeron is a hard working recruiter who would be able to replace him and Nutt is taking the easy way out and keeping him around.
 

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Big D said:
RebelBruiser said:
SoxFan343 said:
but he does have a ton of physical ability.

He doesn't like not starting. Next season he shouldn't have to worry about that too much.

If Orgeron were still around, Rishaw would probably be gone already. Fortunately, Nutt understands his depth chart and has given Rishaw some extra leash given the state of our OL for 2010. We have some quality young OL on the team, but I don't expect to see most of them ready until 2011.
I have a theory why Orgeron would not keep Rishaw around and Nutt will. Because Orgeron is a hard working recruiter who would be able to replace him and Nutt is taking the easy way out and keeping him around.

No, it's just that Orgeron didn't understand that you can't kick off your entire team and still win football games. In 2006 he kicked off the only two LBs we had that would be returning with experience for 2007. Of course, in 2007, our LBs were a big weakness on the team, and that contributed to our defense being one of the worst in the league, which played a big role in us being 0-8.

Even Urban Meyer, the uber-recruiter, understands his depth chart when passing out discipline. Lane Kiffin showed the same when he kicked off Richardson and that other kid but kept Janzen Jackson. Jackson was the best of the 3 players involved, and the other 2 took the wrap so that Kiffin could keep the one he needed most.
 

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8Dog said:
that he would have walked at OM before taking a scholarship with us. That's just what people say.

We desperately need to get better on kickoffs.

And that's probably true. He was a walk on for us this year, and he turned down an immediate offer from Arkansas to come to Ole Miss. I'm guessing he'd have turned down an offer from MSU as well. He was one of those unique situations where he just wanted to come to our school and would've done it no matter what.
 

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RebelBruiser said:
Big D said:
RebelBruiser said:
SoxFan343 said:
but he does have a ton of physical ability.

He doesn't like not starting. Next season he shouldn't have to worry about that too much.

If Orgeron were still around, Rishaw would probably be gone already. Fortunately, Nutt understands his depth chart and has given Rishaw some extra leash given the state of our OL for 2010. We have some quality young OL on the team, but I don't expect to see most of them ready until 2011.
I have a theory why Orgeron would not keep Rishaw around and Nutt will. Because Orgeron is a hard working recruiter who would be able to replace him and Nutt is taking the easy way out and keeping him around.

No, it's just that Orgeron didn't understand that you can't kick off your entire team and still win football games. In 2006 he kicked off the only two LBs we had that would be returning with experience for 2007. Of course, in 2007, our LBs were a big weakness on the team, and that contributed to our defense being one of the worst in the league, which played a big role in us being 0-8.

Even Urban Meyer, the uber-recruiter, understands his depth chart when passing out discipline. Lane Kiffin showed the same when he kicked off Richardson and that other kid but kept Janzen Jackson. Jackson was the best of the 3 players involved, and the other 2 took the wrap so that Kiffin could keep the one he needed most.
What I posted was just a theory.
 
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Saban will have the defense right, no matter the personnel, like I said they have stockpiled 4/5 star talent USC style. Guess I was a little off base with the exact losses they have, I got that from an Alabama homer I work with instead of the depth chart, should have known better.</p>
 

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DawgatAuburn said:
RebelBruiser said:
We're definitely going to be rebuilding next year, but <span style="font-weight: bold;">I'm looking forward to it. We'll get to watch the future, and I feel like we have some good
young athletes that will get their chance next year.</span>
Bruiser to the rescue! What a crock. You aren't looking forward to sucking any more than any other fan of any other team would. I can assure you that sucking is no fun, having just emerged from an eight year stretch of unparalleled sucking. You won't be able to "watch the future" because you will be so pissed off at how bad the present is. Now, I doubt that you suck as much next year as we did for most of the 00s, but I will be honest for a moment: I hope you do.

I don't think we'll suck. We'll be down, but we'll still have a shot at 6 wins given the schedule and our young talent. That's enough for me since I know that we'll be better down the line. Think of it like your team this year. You had a lot of young talent, and you knew going into the year that you were not going to be competing for an SEC title. Still, you enjoyed the season because you knew better days were ahead and you enjoyed watching your young guys grow up and make plays.

I understand where we are next year, and I understand that we'll be young. It's different when you know you're rebuilding than when you think you shouldn't be rebuilding and you're struggling. If you don't come in with high expectations, then you can enjoy a season even if it's just average.
 

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Big D said:
RebelBruiser said:
Big D said:
RebelBruiser said:
SoxFan343 said:
but he does have a ton of physical ability.

He doesn't like not starting. Next season he shouldn't have to worry about that too much.

If Orgeron were still around, Rishaw would probably be gone already. Fortunately, Nutt understands his depth chart and has given Rishaw some extra leash given the state of our OL for 2010. We have some quality young OL on the team, but I don't expect to see most of them ready until 2011.
I have a theory why Orgeron would not keep Rishaw around and Nutt will. Because Orgeron is a hard working recruiter who would be able to replace him and Nutt is taking the easy way out and keeping him around.

No, it's just that Orgeron didn't understand that you can't kick off your entire team and still win football games. In 2006 he kicked off the only two LBs we had that would be returning with experience for 2007. Of course, in 2007, our LBs were a big weakness on the team, and that contributed to our defense being one of the worst in the league, which played a big role in us being 0-8.

Even Urban Meyer, the uber-recruiter, understands his depth chart when passing out discipline. Lane Kiffin showed the same when he kicked off Richardson and that other kid but kept Janzen Jackson. Jackson was the best of the 3 players involved, and the other 2 took the wrap so that Kiffin could keep the one he needed most.
What I posted was just a theory.

It's a good theory, and I could see where Orgeron may have actually thought that way, but I'm saying he's an idiot if he did believe that. You grade discipline on a sliding scale because with an 85 scholarship limit, you can't always just say "next" and throw someone else out there if you kick someone off.
 

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I have no problem saying I don't know how next season is going to turn out. I do think we will win Vandy and the 3 OOC games, so if our baseline is 4 wins. Our team could bottom out at 4 wins, if the O-line doesn't improve, and the Secondary plays like crap, and our LB's play like they don't want to be there, than 4-5 wins may be the ceiling.

I think next year will be a step back, but I don't think anyone can say how far. Everyone in the SEC loses a ton of players, UT and LSU especially. I have no idea who is going to run AU's offense at QB and that is assuming Malzalm is still there which is a toss up.

The only constants I know is that Bama will be really good and so will Florida. The rest I have no idea.

I do know that MSU's schedule will be difficult next year again, with @ Bama, @LSU, @ FL, @OM, and home against AU, UGA, UK, UPIG.

I could see MSU going 3-1 or 1-3 at home in those games.

I have no idea who MSU has OOC but I would assume those are 4 wins.

If I was making a prediction, I think the egg bowl winner will go to a better bowl, but that both teams go bowling next year.
 

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is the excitement around the program. How many were there for the N. Arizona game? My point, your not going to be able to add out of state talent with empty stadiums and no buzz. You should be living somewhere near reality enough to realize, there will be no buzz bout your rebels next year. Your not going to get them from in state because your coach is that smart, so where is all this new young talent your talking about going to come from?
 

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SoxFan343 said:
and I still think we win six or seven games.

I think we beat Vandy, Jacksonville St., Tulane, and LA-Lafayette for sure. That's four wins.

Out of Fresno, UK, State, Auburn, Arkansas, Tennessee we winn two or three. That's six or seven wins.

It's too early to do too much guess work on this anyway. There are still a lot of questions. If you guys don't sign Newton, how good is your offense? How good is Newton anyway? Todd is leaving Auburn, who plays QB? Does Mallett go pro? What the crap does Tennessee do in the first place? They are looking at starting a true freshman QB according to a lot of UT fans I know. Can Snead bounce back? How bad is our secondary going to be?
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I think every one of your games is winnable except for Alabama. I think we are in a beginning of parody in the SEC for a few years except for Alabama. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> The West will be bunched up with everyone else playing for second place. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I think if not this year but starting next year, Alabama will win three out of the next four BCS championships. Tebow is gone and next year Florida will not be the same.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> The SEC east could be up for grabs and South Carolina could be the big dogs next year over on that side.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> The east is lining up good for someone just like the West lined up for State in 98.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> But Bama is the team to beat in the SEC and will be for a while.</p>
Damn I hate saying that.
 

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The problem with the UNA game was not the game itself but when it was played. Had that game been scheduled the week of Sept. 12 instead of in November, there would've been 50,000+ there easily. It's best to play your cupcakes early. We had 55,000+ for SELA. And we didn't have empty stadiums for LSU, UT, or Arkansas in November, you know the games where we actually brought in a good number of recruits. The ideal OOC schedule is still 4 cupcakes, at least 3 of them at home, and play all of them by no later than mid-October.

To your other question, we have a good bit of young talent already on the team from the 2009 class. That's what I'm talking about, and I feel like we've got a good start on this current class. Those two classes, along with the redshirts from 2008 are our future, and I feel pretty good about those players, especially considering the experience they'll be getting next year.
 

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Its Memphis, UAB, and Alcorn State at home, then Houston on the road. I would be surprised if we lost to any of those teams except Houston, and they are probably quite beatable if Keenum leaves early for the draft.