I'm not worried about Tampa / standings. Just keep winning and all of that will sort itself out in the long run. Set a target of 100 wins and chase it all season.
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I'm sure you remember Frank Lary. Eovaldi has nothing on him .Lary was the first pitcher in 50 years to beat the Yankees 7 times in a row and was 21-7 for his career. He was solid but just a .500 pitcher. Used to drive me crazy.
Kid just can't get a break to go his way. Was starting to hit and bam, makes a great play and is in the concussion protocol
This bullpen. Crap assembled by Cashman. Doval is Williams 2.0. Cruz is a joke. Why does Boone keep going to him in key points in games? How many times does he have to blow the inning before he is not used? Boone is so hard headed and a fool. It's a shame another gem by Schlittler goes to waste by Boone's stupid pitching moves. Some may say, well, the Yankees pen has the second best ERA in MLB, and that is true, but that does not tell how many inherited runs were allowed. And the key here is those numbers were assembled in games where the Yankees had big leads and there was no pressure on the relievers. In games that were on the line the Yankees pen has been one of the worst in baseball.
Lot of talking heads saying that the Yanks need to upgrade the bullpen.
Exactly. And I might add that is not Boone's M.O.
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This freaking bullpen SUCKS! Another blown game by the pen. How Cashman and Hal thought this pen was legit while every Yankees fan knew better is mind blowing.
Even if Bednar hadn't blown it in the 9th, you just knew the Yanks weren't going to win.
The Yanks are really good and can be great. It's already time to set aside "development" and go for the gusto this year.
Move Weathers to the pen. Lefty throwing high 90s cheese will be welcome.
Have Gil, Rodriguez, and LaGrange down at Triple A start pen work focused on their heater and one off-speed pitch. Three righties throwing from 97 to 103 coming out of the pen will be welcome.
Leave Hill and Bednar. Let Yarborough be your blow-out long man / emergency spot starter. Leave a couple others for low leverage innings. Throw the rest in the garbage can.
Do it NOW.
Move Weathers to the pen. Lefty throwing high 90s cheese will be welcome.
Have Gil, Rodriguez, and LaGrange down at Triple A start pen work focused on their heater and one off-speed pitch. Three righties throwing from 97 to 103 coming out of the pen will be welcome.
Leave Hill and Bednar. Let Yarborough be your blow-out long man / emergency spot starter. Leave a couple others for low leverage innings. Throw the rest in the garbage can.
Do it NOW.
That's what I would like to see as well, but the Yankees are just not going to bring up those 2 youngsters to put them in the pen, but that i where they need to be. Yankees want them getting more work than they would get in NY and it makes sense. Maybe bring them up later in the year. as we have discussed many time, Gil needs to be in the pen. Period.
I can't stand Aaron ******* Boone. Weathers pitching a 1 hit shutout. Lost his no hitter and then walked a man. Here comes Boone out of the dugout chomping on his gum. Pulls Weathers. I'm fussing at Boone to let Weathers win or lose this on his own. He deserved it. 2 pitches later our wonderful bullpen gives up a 3 run Homer. 2 inherited runners score plus one more and instead of headed for a probable 2-0 win the Yankees will probably lose. I got so mad so I changed the channel. I'll see the result later. I'm so sick of Boone.
Boone still pulls the trigger though. He was signaling to the pen as soon as he came out of the dugout. I felt after what Weathers had done so far he could have talked to him a few minutes then let him have another batter. I'm sick of this 100 pitch count BS. I feel so bad for Weathers. Went from a no hitter to a no decision in the blink of an eye.
Doesn't do a lot of good to win 9 in a row then lose 5 of the next 6. Second time this year the Yankees have gone on a long winning streak then a bad losing streak followed. Mind boggling how the offense just dies all of a sudden. Everyone at the same time. Meanwhile the Rays have been on a tear and are now 2 games up on the Yankees.
I read yesterday that Cab led all SS in defensive runs saved and was 3rd overall in the game. Volpe needs to come up understanding / focused on his glove comes 1st, his legs 2nd, contact 3rd.....and nothing else.
That defense by the Yankees infield in the bottom of the 3rd was comical. Even O's announcers said what in the world are they doing? Good thing Warren got out of a bases loaded no out jam caused by defensive lapses I've never seen at any level of baseball.
And with a day game tomorrow why is Boone pitching Bednar in the 9th in a non save situation and with an off day Thursday. Makes no sense.
Since I am having dental surgery in the morning I figured I would kick back and rest and watch the Yankees. Not much rest. After watching Fried give up 3 runs in 3 innings and looking uncomfortable he exited with elbow soreness. Uh, oh! He hasn't looked good in a month. He's off for a MRI. We get Rodon back and lose Fried. We get Volpe back and lose Caballero. That's been the Yankees luck the past several years.
So with the Yankees going to the pen in the 4th inning I knew we had no chance. Blackburn was immediately pounded. I spent the rest of the game doing some yard work. The Yankees are going to the playoffs and might win the division. But no way in hell they win a WS with this pen.
The Yankees got 1 measly hit. It's crazy how all the bats go silent at the same time. Lost 5 of 6 now after ripping teams for 2 weeks. They get hot at the same time and cold at the same time. Can't we go half and half like the Rays and Cubs? Lol
So with the Yankees going to the pen in the 4th inning I knew we had no chance. Blackburn was immediately pounded. I spent the rest of the game doing some yard work. The Yankees are going to the playoffs and might win the division. But no way in hell they win a WS with this pen.
The Yankees got 1 measly hit. It's crazy how all the bats go silent at the same time. Lost 5 of 6 now after ripping teams for 2 weeks. They get hot at the same time and cold at the same time. Can't we go half and half like the Rays and Cubs? Lol
To quote the great Harry Doyle:
"And the Indians finish the day with one hit....wait, one hit? One G-- D--- Hit?!?!?"
Color guy: "you can't say GD on the radio"
Harry: "oh, who gives a shi*....nobody is listening anyway"
Unreal that Clay Holmes had his leg broken by a line drive off Spencer Jones's bat and he stayed in the game and pitched to 7 more batters. Wow!
Cam absolutely dominant yet again
I have a ton of baseball history stored in my brain and I am struggling to remember a young starter who is being so dominant while basically just throwing 3 variations of a fastball (sinker, cutter, 4-seamer). It’s to the point where the batter knows 98 mph is coming and he just has to guess in his swing whether the ball is gonna drop, cut outside, or run inside. It’s pretty amazing to watch
I have a ton of baseball history stored in my brain and I am struggling to remember a young starter who is being so dominant while basically just throwing 3 variations of a fastball (sinker, cutter, 4-seamer). It’s to the point where the batter knows 98 mph is coming and he just has to guess in his swing whether the ball is gonna drop, cut outside, or run inside. It’s pretty amazing to watch
Yeah. It's Mo Riveraesque. Lol
Racking my brain for pitchers you wonder about. Bob Gibson, Don Drysdale, and Dizzy Dean come to mind but they all threw just 2 pitches. Mark Fydrich had some weird pitch that he threw all the time and said he never knew what it was going to do. Fernandez Valenzuela had just 2 pitches. Fastball and screwball.
I know you said just one pitch but a fastball, cutter, and sinker are three pitches in my mind because they are gripped differently, but I understand what you are saying and it is very unique. A variation of one fast pitch.
Just to stray past one pitch but Bert Blyleven had a killer curveball as did Denny McLain, the last 30 game winner.
Did Nolan Ryan throw anything other than a fastball? It had many variations. Right down the middle 110 mph. Right at your head. Behind you. Over your head to the backstop. Lmao Glad I never had to face him but I faced a 100 mph thrower who hit me in the kidney and I passed out. Damn it hurt for months.
Did Nolan Ryan throw anything other than a fastball? It had many variations. Right down the middle 110 mph. Right at your head. Behind you. Over your head to the backstop. Lmao Glad I never had to face him but I faced a 100 mph thrower who hit me in the kidney and I passed out. Damn it hurt for months.
I was going to come back to specifically ask you as youve forgotten more baseball than all the rest of us know combined lol
But I have to say….how in the world could you forget Nolan’s Uncle Charlie curve ball. That thing would break (SNAP) two feet. He would start it at a batter’s head and they were diving out of the box while the ball ended up dead in the heart of the plate
And yes, a cutter, 4-seamer, and sinker are different pitches with different grips. But they all come out of the same arm slot and with Cam they are all coming 97-101 and are all fastball derivatives. And he’s throwing them nearly 90% of the time. I just can’t remember a successful starter with effectively no change of speed pitch. And he’s not successful….he is dominant. It’s been a year now and no one is figuring him out. He’s only getting better. And that’s amazing when you really think about it
I'm old and have forgotten so much. Uncle Charley!
Nolan pitch selection
Strike 1 and 2: here it is, Ryan Express middle middle hit it if you can
Pitch 3: Ryan Express 1 inch under the batter’s chin
Strike 3: Uncle Charlie started at the head and batter diving to the dugout
LOL
The most irritating thing in the loss last night is Weaver and Williams have been terrible all season and last night they go lights out on us. Weaver getting out of a bases loaded no out jam was crazy. Yankees should be embarrassed.
I know I sound like a broken record but the Yankees bullpen is **** and Bednar is a joke of a closer. Boone can't keep trotting his no pitching *** out there to close games. His ERA is over 5.00! His stuff is weak. No electric stuff at all. Can't believe the Yankees gave this chump money to close games. Oh, yes, I can. Cashman and Hal are idiots. My wife watches games with me and I swear she could put together a better bullpen. Toronto is going to destroy the Yankees the next 4 nights.