Obamacare lives, thank goodness

WVPATX

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I have posted several times I wanted Obamacare to live so that the American people can fully experience what the Dems did to them in passing that monstrosity. Premium and deductibles will continue to rise, in many states in a huge way. The exchanges are dying. Insurance companies are opting out leaving little to no competition in some areas of the country. Young people are avoiding Obamacare in droves preferring to pay the tax instead. Thus the risk pools have far too many very, very sick people and far too few, young and healthy. When the pain becomes significant enough and the American people demand replacement, then the GOP can act by fully replacing Obamacare. Obama illegally funneled money to prop up Obamacare. That is now gone so the costs will rise even faster than one would expect. Not only will costs go up big time, but doctors will stop seeing Obamacare patients. It has already started. Democrats can celebrate today. But next fall, when Americans see their new Obamacare rates, all heck is going to break loose. You can only hide premium increases for so long by massively increasing deductibles. At some point, those huge deductibles really means you have no insurance (except catastrophic illness protection) since you can't afford to go to the doctor.

However, I do believe Speaker Ryan needs to go. This was his bill and he lost, big time. He hurt the President as well. If I were the GOP, I would install Gingrich as Speaker. He knows how the game is played, is brilliant and gets things done. Trump is going to need Gingrich's kind of leadership for tax cuts, the wall and the rest of his agenda.

Schumer sees the handwriting on the wall. He says he will work with the GOP to "fix" Obamacare if repeal is off the table. He knows what's coming. It won't be pretty.

Even Bernie sees the problems:

Dana Bash. “The President is trying to blame Democrats for the GOP failure to repeal and replace Obamacare but he also said that he’d be willing to work with you and Democrats in the Senate and House on a solution…”

Bernie Sanders: “Dana let me begin by saying this, the bill that was defeated should have been defeated. It was a disastrous piece of legislation primarily designed to provide 300 billion dollars in tax breaks to the top 2%, throwing 24 million people off of health insurance, raising premiums for older workers in a very very significant way….

Now as you indicated, of course Obamacare has serious problems. The deductibles are too high, premiums are too high. The cost of healthcare is going up at a much faster rate than it should.”


Dana Bash. “The President is trying to blame Democrats for the GOP failure to repeal and replace Obamacare but he also said that he’d be willing to work with you and Democrats in the Senate and House on a solution…”

Bernie Sanders: “Dana let me begin by saying this, the bill that was defeated should have been defeated. It was a disastrous piece of legislation primarily designed to provide 300 billion dollars in tax breaks to the top 2%, throwing 24 million people off of health insurance, raising premiums for older workers in a very very significant way….

Now as you indicated, of course Obamacare has serious problems. The deductibles are too high, premiums are too high. The cost of healthcare is going up at a much faster rate than it should.”


Dana Bash. “The President is trying to blame Democrats for the GOP failure to repeal and replace Obamacare but he also said that he’d be willing to work with you and Democrats in the Senate and House on a solution…”

Bernie Sanders: “Dana let me begin by saying this, the bill that was defeated should have been defeated. It was a disastrous piece of legislation primarily designed to provide 300 billion dollars in tax breaks to the top 2%, throwing 24 million people off of health insurance, raising premiums for older workers in a very very significant way….

Now as you indicated, of course Obamacare has serious problems. The deductibles are too high, premiums are too high. The cost of healthcare is going up at a much faster rate than it should.”
 
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WVPATX

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Americans spoke loudly and clearly at the town halls; they will take the ACA over the alternatives presented to date.

Beautiful. Let them live with Obamacare through 2017. Let them see the rates and deductibles that hit them in the fall of 2017. Let them see what insurance options they have in their states. Let them see what doctors opt out of seeing Obamacare patients. Let's see if they can fit that into their budgets.

Obamacare is imploding. Insurance companies leaving. Exchanges going bankrupt. Bail outs will cease since Obama's illegal funding will be stopped. The death spiral has started as young, healthy people learned how to play the game.
 

WVPATX

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Town halls = fake news, Soros bused in protestors.

This is all very true. But again, the Dems will get burned big time, imo. Keep Obamacare and let's see what happens. I think this becomes a huge issue again in 2018 mid terms.
 

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I have posted several times I wanted Obamacare to live so that the American people can fully experience what the Dems did to them in passing that monstrosity. Premium and deductibles will continue to rise, in many states in a huge way. The exchanges are dying. Insurance companies are opting out leaving little to no competition in some areas of the country. Young people are avoiding Obamacare in droves preferring to pay the tax instead. Thus the risk pools have far too many very, very sick people and far too few, young and healthy. When the pain becomes significant enough and the American people demand replacement, then the GOP can act by fully replacing Obamacare. Obama illegally funneled money to prop up Obamacare. That is now gone so the costs will rise even faster than one would expect. Not only will costs go up big time, but doctors will stop seeing Obamacare patients. It has already started. Democrats can celebrate today. But next fall, when Americans see their new Obamacare rates, all heck is going to break loose. You can only hide premium increases for so long by massively increasing deductibles. At some point, those huge deductibles really means you have no insurance (except catastrophic illness protection) since you can't afford to go to the doctor.

However, I do believe Speaker Ryan needs to go. This was his bill and he lost, big time. He hurt the President as well. If I were the GOP, I would install Gingrich as Speaker. He knows how the game is played, is brilliant and gets things done. Trump is going to need Gingrich's kind of leadership for tax cuts, the wall and the rest of his agenda.

Schumer sees the handwriting on the wall. He says he will work with the GOP to "fix" Obamacare if repeal is off the table. He knows what's coming. It won't be pretty.

Even Bernie sees the problems:

Dana Bash. “The President is trying to blame Democrats for the GOP failure to repeal and replace Obamacare but he also said that he’d be willing to work with you and Democrats in the Senate and House on a solution…”

Bernie Sanders: “Dana let me begin by saying this, the bill that was defeated should have been defeated. It was a disastrous piece of legislation primarily designed to provide 300 billion dollars in tax breaks to the top 2%, throwing 24 million people off of health insurance, raising premiums for older workers in a very very significant way….

Now as you indicated, of course Obamacare has serious problems. The deductibles are too high, premiums are too high. The cost of healthcare is going up at a much faster rate than it should.”


Dana Bash. “The President is trying to blame Democrats for the GOP failure to repeal and replace Obamacare but he also said that he’d be willing to work with you and Democrats in the Senate and House on a solution…”

Bernie Sanders: “Dana let me begin by saying this, the bill that was defeated should have been defeated. It was a disastrous piece of legislation primarily designed to provide 300 billion dollars in tax breaks to the top 2%, throwing 24 million people off of health insurance, raising premiums for older workers in a very very significant way….

Now as you indicated, of course Obamacare has serious problems. The deductibles are too high, premiums are too high. The cost of healthcare is going up at a much faster rate than it should.”


Dana Bash. “The President is trying to blame Democrats for the GOP failure to repeal and replace Obamacare but he also said that he’d be willing to work with you and Democrats in the Senate and House on a solution…”

Bernie Sanders: “Dana let me begin by saying this, the bill that was defeated should have been defeated. It was a disastrous piece of legislation primarily designed to provide 300 billion dollars in tax breaks to the top 2%, throwing 24 million people off of health insurance, raising premiums for older workers in a very very significant way….

Now as you indicated, of course Obamacare has serious problems. The deductibles are too high, premiums are too high. The cost of healthcare is going up at a much faster rate than it should.”
You can fantasize all you want but NOTHING you imagine can hide the failure and embarrassment Donnie and his moron minion feel right now. This loser feeling you're trying desperately to ignore... it's all yours, by choice. Every blind cheerleader like you is a loser like Trump Own it *****.
 

WVPATX

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You can fantasize all you want but NOTHING you imagine can hide the failure and embarrassment Donnie and his moron minion feel right now. This loser feeling you're trying desperately to ignore... it's all yours, by choice. Every blind cheerleader like you is a loser like Trump Own it *****.

I want Obamacare alive and for the people to feels it's full effect. I have posted this several times. But let's stipulate that Trump lost this round. However, he is President and Hillary is not. So who is the loser again? Lmao.
 
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atlkvb

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I have posted several times I wanted Obamacare to live so that the American people can fully experience what the Dems did to them in passing that monstrosity. Premium and deductibles will continue to rise, in many states in a huge way. The exchanges are dying. Insurance companies are opting out leaving little to no competition in some areas of the country. Young people are avoiding Obamacare in droves preferring to pay the tax instead. Thus the risk pools have far too many very, very sick people and far too few, young and healthy. When the pain becomes significant enough and the American people demand replacement, then the GOP can act by fully replacing Obamacare. Obama illegally funneled money to prop up Obamacare. That is now gone so the costs will rise even faster than one would expect. Not only will costs go up big time, but doctors will stop seeing Obamacare patients. It has already started. Democrats can celebrate today. But next fall, when Americans see their new Obamacare rates, all heck is going to break loose. You can only hide premium increases for so long by massively increasing deductibles. At some point, those huge deductibles really means you have no insurance (except catastrophic illness protection) since you can't afford to go to the doctor.

However, I do believe Speaker Ryan needs to go. This was his bill and he lost, big time. He hurt the President as well. If I were the GOP, I would install Gingrich as Speaker. He knows how the game is played, is brilliant and gets things done. Trump is going to need Gingrich's kind of leadership for tax cuts, the wall and the rest of his agenda.

Schumer sees the handwriting on the wall. He says he will work with the GOP to "fix" Obamacare if repeal is off the table. He knows what's coming. It won't be pretty.

Even Bernie sees the problems:

Dana Bash. “The President is trying to blame Democrats for the GOP failure to repeal and replace Obamacare but he also said that he’d be willing to work with you and Democrats in the Senate and House on a solution…”

Bernie Sanders: “Dana let me begin by saying this, the bill that was defeated should have been defeated. It was a disastrous piece of legislation primarily designed to provide 300 billion dollars in tax breaks to the top 2%, throwing 24 million people off of health insurance, raising premiums for older workers in a very very significant way….

Now as you indicated, of course Obamacare has serious problems. The deductibles are too high, premiums are too high. The cost of healthcare is going up at a much faster rate than it should.”


Dana Bash. “The President is trying to blame Democrats for the GOP failure to repeal and replace Obamacare but he also said that he’d be willing to work with you and Democrats in the Senate and House on a solution…”

Bernie Sanders: “Dana let me begin by saying this, the bill that was defeated should have been defeated. It was a disastrous piece of legislation primarily designed to provide 300 billion dollars in tax breaks to the top 2%, throwing 24 million people off of health insurance, raising premiums for older workers in a very very significant way….

Now as you indicated, of course Obamacare has serious problems. The deductibles are too high, premiums are too high. The cost of healthcare is going up at a much faster rate than it should.”


Dana Bash. “The President is trying to blame Democrats for the GOP failure to repeal and replace Obamacare but he also said that he’d be willing to work with you and Democrats in the Senate and House on a solution…”

Bernie Sanders: “Dana let me begin by saying this, the bill that was defeated should have been defeated. It was a disastrous piece of legislation primarily designed to provide 300 billion dollars in tax breaks to the top 2%, throwing 24 million people off of health insurance, raising premiums for older workers in a very very significant way….

Now as you indicated, of course Obamacare has serious problems. The deductibles are too high, premiums are too high. The cost of healthcare is going up at a much faster rate than it should.”


They (Republicans) had 8 years to develop a replacement the party and the country could live with. What were they doing? They weren't ready to govern with a viable replacement when they took Office, and now they're blaming the Democrats?

Not buying it. They don't want it (ACA) replaced, just scaled back a little.
 

WVU82_rivals

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by rejecting the Rep health care, the Dems have doomed themselves in the 2018 polls...

Trump wins either way...

wake up idiots...
 

moe

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I have posted several times I wanted Obamacare to live so that the American people can fully experience what the Dems did to them in passing that monstrosity. Premium and deductibles will continue to rise, in many states in a huge way. The exchanges are dying. Insurance companies are opting out leaving little to no competition in some areas of the country. Young people are avoiding Obamacare in droves preferring to pay the tax instead. Thus the risk pools have far too many very, very sick people and far too few, young and healthy. When the pain becomes significant enough and the American people demand replacement, then the GOP can act by fully replacing Obamacare. Obama illegally funneled money to prop up Obamacare. That is now gone so the costs will rise even faster than one would expect. Not only will costs go up big time, but doctors will stop seeing Obamacare patients. It has already started. Democrats can celebrate today. But next fall, when Americans see their new Obamacare rates, all heck is going to break loose. You can only hide premium increases for so long by massively increasing deductibles. At some point, those huge deductibles really means you have no insurance (except catastrophic illness protection) since you can't afford to go to the doctor.

However, I do believe Speaker Ryan needs to go. This was his bill and he lost, big time. He hurt the President as well. If I were the GOP, I would install Gingrich as Speaker. He knows how the game is played, is brilliant and gets things done. Trump is going to need Gingrich's kind of leadership for tax cuts, the wall and the rest of his agenda.

Schumer sees the handwriting on the wall. He says he will work with the GOP to "fix" Obamacare if repeal is off the table. He knows what's coming. It won't be pretty.

Even Bernie sees the problems:

Dana Bash. “The President is trying to blame Democrats for the GOP failure to repeal and replace Obamacare but he also said that he’d be willing to work with you and Democrats in the Senate and House on a solution…”

Bernie Sanders: “Dana let me begin by saying this, the bill that was defeated should have been defeated. It was a disastrous piece of legislation primarily designed to provide 300 billion dollars in tax breaks to the top 2%, throwing 24 million people off of health insurance, raising premiums for older workers in a very very significant way….

Now as you indicated, of course Obamacare has serious problems. The deductibles are too high, premiums are too high. The cost of healthcare is going up at a much faster rate than it should.”


Dana Bash. “The President is trying to blame Democrats for the GOP failure to repeal and replace Obamacare but he also said that he’d be willing to work with you and Democrats in the Senate and House on a solution…”

Bernie Sanders: “Dana let me begin by saying this, the bill that was defeated should have been defeated. It was a disastrous piece of legislation primarily designed to provide 300 billion dollars in tax breaks to the top 2%, throwing 24 million people off of health insurance, raising premiums for older workers in a very very significant way….

Now as you indicated, of course Obamacare has serious problems. The deductibles are too high, premiums are too high. The cost of healthcare is going up at a much faster rate than it should.”


Dana Bash. “The President is trying to blame Democrats for the GOP failure to repeal and replace Obamacare but he also said that he’d be willing to work with you and Democrats in the Senate and House on a solution…”

Bernie Sanders: “Dana let me begin by saying this, the bill that was defeated should have been defeated. It was a disastrous piece of legislation primarily designed to provide 300 billion dollars in tax breaks to the top 2%, throwing 24 million people off of health insurance, raising premiums for older workers in a very very significant way….

Now as you indicated, of course Obamacare has serious problems. The deductibles are too high, premiums are too high. The cost of healthcare is going up at a much faster rate than it should.”
Spin, spin, Trump & Republicans = losers.
 

WVPATX

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Spin, spin, Trump & Republicans = losers.

Who is President? Who runs the House? Who runs the Senate? Who controls more governships? Who controls more state houses? If that is a loser, what do you call the Dems?
 

moe

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Who is President? Who runs the House? Who runs the Senate?
And they can't fulfill the #1 pledge of Republicans and the so called prez, smh. I guess 7 years wasn't enough to come up with a plan.
 

Keyser76

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Who is President? Who runs the House? Who runs the Senate? Who controls more governships? Who controls more state houses? If that is a loser, what do you call the Dems?
You won then, why ain't ya happy? lmfao. With all that why couldn't Mr. deal maker get it done and repeal Obamacare on day one? You dizzy from all your spinning?
 

WVPATX

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You won then, why ain't ya happy? lmfao. With all that why couldn't Mr. deal maker get it done and repeal Obamacare on day one? You dizzy from all your spinning?

Like I said, Clinton is sitting on her *** at home and Trump is in the White House. Who is the loser again?