Economics is obviously not a field I thrive in.....or even feel of adequate knowledge to debate, but I’d think sustainable employment is a long term thing. Records reached after years of gains, so the credit should be given at least a little to O as he did steadily lift us out of W’s massive recession and handed Trump a healthy economy to rev.
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The unemployment rate was lower under Trump than BO duh. Blacks are dying at a greater rate than others now too. Trump doesn't do himself favors w/blacks when he rips on BO. Trump will lose the black vote badly, that is all.
Not so brilliant pivot there, schMoe. "OBooma" asked a question, so I answered it, and, as he spins in a desperate attempt to give Obama credit for what Trump's economy did for blacks, you're right here to change the subject entirely. Reread my post and the context in which it was made. Unlike fools such as yourself, I don't make wildly speculative predictions about which group of people is going to vote for whom.
You should have stopped with the first part of your first sentence. You have no fvcking clue about which you post. No, Obama doesn't get credit for a spike in African-American employment, which occurred after Trump had changed the make-up of heavy-handed federal agencies and rolled back Obama's oppressive regulations. That's not how this works. Your post lacks any factual support.
I love the OBooma moniker, sewing as how I didn’t vote for the man in ‘12, but whateva better than being a Buckeye posting on a WV discussion board
It’s not a fact that the unemployment rate dropped every year from 9.9% in 2009 until big O left office in ‘16?
Ok, in sentence one of post 82 I explained your "interesting" finding to you. Since the unemployment rate was down for everyone under Trump of course the unemployment rate for blacks was down as well and there's really nothing interesting about that. You seem to think that old unemployment stat will be meaningful for Trump in the election. I say good luck with that then I gave you two other reasons that Trump will not do well with blacks. No pivoting or changing of subjects occurred. If you're not talking about the election, great then enjoy my analysis since I was.
Thanks for admitting what wonders Trump's economy did for all American groups. As you attempt to rationalize as to why blacks' unemployment rates hit historical lows under Trump, take a look at a New York Times article published on 2/7/20, in which your favorite newspaper's reporters stated that THE WAGES OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS FINALLY SURGED AFTER A DECADE OF STAGNATION. Perhaps, you and Obooma should put your (pin) heads together, and figure out as to how you can give Obama credit for this phenomenon, too.
there are several logical fallacies in this so I'll defer to your research on them to maybe, just maybe, self-awareness occurs and you improve whatever the hell you are trying to say here. But you are trying and so I am a patient man whose primary goal in life is to help the sick, improve the needy, and redirect the lost. I'm here for you. Set goals to get better, you can do it, yes we can.
What has he done for blacks? I'll refer you to polls were blacks have communicated life for them has gotten better. Young blacks particularly, which for me, is great because their minds are shaped away from government dependency the left sells. As they mature, they'll see the value of self-sufficiency and not government dependency. A portion then pass this value to the next generation. In my real life experiences, every black family member, friend, and associate I have was fully employed under Trump. Couldn't say that under BO. As far as my investments, I earned over $535K during his time in office right up to mid-Feb when the market fell. However, I never left it and since, I have recovered to now, just 12% shy of that mark making my total investment worth slight over 1.5 million. During BO's total 8 years I made a little more than $300K. I never changed strategy from BO to Trump. The bottom line is what it is...……..show me the money.
So I have real life examples of Trump's effect on blacks and my investments. .
Look at hasty generalization, genetic fallacy, and circular argument logical fallacies as a start. It may help you get redirected when you try to make a point. Remember, I am here for you.
Trump's economy continued the trend line BO established but it's all gone now. Remember the good times. Blacks will not reward Trump on election day.
Thanks teach. I appreciate your addressing the non linear portion of your response to the thread with such detail. Stock market and unemployment. Got it. I think I mentioned that, but sure we will just give Trump all the credit in the world for the might of the US economy.
by not addressing the point I made that has relevance to this thread, and instead directing me like a young grasshopper to my daily study, I assume you have no counterpoint. But only a nagging but driving need to be the smartest in the room. That’s fine. I like you guys, I enjoy learning from your brilliance. While I wouldn’t exactly call it apprenticeship, because of the slight element of disdain and a major element of pity, I do equate it to the relationship a student observer has with the mental patient he must evaluate.
I’ll watch you wail at the digital padded walls, and listen to your carefully designed rants. Although so much thrown out as insane drivel, some will be retained for my final analysis of your one lonesome mark on humanity’s sketch of living. As distorted and misaligned as some make it, there’s still art there to enjoy and analyze. As long as you can stomach some of the loudest and craziest artists, that usually make the smallest contribution.
No. The HBCs has an immediate impact.
The urban enterprise zones were working as well. Look at the black small business ownership numbers before and after.
It's Biff's attempt to take the offensive using anything Obama to distract from Pandemic and low poll numbers. Biffbots are all over it.
got to admit, it was somewhat nice to see bamaEer type up a two sentence response. Normally, it's just a couple words, something like - that's awesome, that's funny. dud (not dude) wears a clown suit.
More like the Reds are doing anything they can to prolong the COVID impact in the hopes of hurting Trump on the economy.
You're running a kid sniffing pants ******* for President. I’m not at all in need of distracting from the Pandemic. Keep it front and center with Obamagate. We need to continue to focus on what’s happening in NY and Michigan. Keep all the liberals inside. I’m totally fine with it.
you are learning your place. It's progress and I'll take it.
Honestly, I didn't see value in addressing everything you posted. Not trying to insult, but it was simply too much I wasn't interested in.
I am interested in blacks and the economy. It's a black thing, you wouldn't understand.
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this!
It's as simple as reversing any level of independence back to government dependency for vote.
Remember, everything the left proposes is aims at securing a vote to hold power.
It's Friday. I wonder what gets dropped this afternoon?
Will it be more preparing the ground, or will we have a substantive drop? I think it will be more ground prep. Will it be the missing Flynn 302? Or perhaps something more on the unmaskings? Or maybe the 702 searches/contractors? It could be about Obama's EO for spreading classified info between the different intel depts? What about Mifsud? Or Halper? Or more on the lovebird shenanigans? This could go so many different directions.
Will it be more preparing the ground, or will we have a substantive drop? I think it will be more ground prep. Will it be the missing Flynn 302? Or perhaps something more on the unmaskings? Or maybe the 702 searches/contractors? It could be about Obama's EO for spreading classified info between the different intel depts? What about Mifsud? Or Halper? Or more on the lovebird shenanigans? This could go so many different directions.
I am not convinced he wins.
Reds know they have to keep the pressure on to keep the economy from recovering until he out. They needed an external force, because they couldn't stop him themselves, like COVID. Their job now is to exploit COVID for political gain to hurt Trump getting reelected.
How can the guy holding several pressers a week about the pandemic and visiting PPE facilities weekly be trying to distract from the topic?
I feel sorry for you haters. Just spew the talking points no matter how dumb they are.
So we have been told daily for 3 years that Trump conspired with Russia, and now that the unmaskers of Flynn have been unmasked we need to wait for Durhams edict before making comments,,,,,,sounds reasonable if you say please
Trump is leading in the battleground states. More blacks and Hispanics are going to vote Trump than they did in 2016. They can try to use COVID-19, but most people are aware and smart enough to know, Trump didn't cause it and he moved earlier than anyone on the left did or would have. In fact, they ridiculed him for acting so early. Even CNN([laughing]) had to downplay their own poll showing Trump winning big in the battleground states.
Trump will win in a landslide, just as he did in 2016.
I think any economic enterprise is going to look good when the economy is on the uptick
That is awesome!!!!
Landslide? LMAO! trump didn't even win the popular vote. trump won Michigan, PA and Wisconsin by a combined total of 78,000 votes resulting in 46 EVs. He won by a total of 77 EVs.