O'Bryant to LSU per veazey tweet**
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It doesn't work like normal recruiting.
As I said with the whole Ky Madden thing, it doesn't matter that much for us. We're going to the NIT most years either with them or without them. The end result is the same, 7 to 9 SEC wins and an NIT bid. It's AK ball. Never an NCAA. Young team with talent but no experience = NIT. Experienced team with a decent amount of talent = NIT. The knee voodoo year has been the only exception in AK's entire career (including his Cincy season), and even the knee injury team would've been flirting with the NIT had they been able to win a couple more of their OOC games.
Stansbury ball is a slightly higher level of the same principle. Mix any number of ingredients in any fashion and it equals high seed NIT with maybe a decent NIT run or low seed NCAA with an early exit. Usually this is accomplished by blowing a couple early season OOC games to teams that have no business being on the court with his team, but then recovering to make a solid conference run to either sneak into the NCAA tourney as a low seed or just miss out.
As I said with the whole Ky Madden thing, it doesn't matter that much for us. We're going to the NIT most years either with them or without them. The end result is the same, 7 to 9 SEC wins and an NIT bid. It's AK ball. Never an NCAA. Young team with talent but no experience = NIT. Experienced team with a decent amount of talent = NIT. The knee voodoo year has been the only exception in AK's entire career (including his Cincy season), and even the knee injury team would've been flirting with the NIT had they been able to win a couple more of their OOC games.
Stansbury ball is a slightly higher level of the same principle. Mix any number of ingredients in any fashion and it equals high seed NIT with maybe a decent NIT run or low seed NCAA with an early exit. Usually this is accomplished by blowing a couple early season OOC games to teams that have no business being on the court with his team, but then recovering to make a solid conference run to either sneak into the NCAA tourney as a low seed or just miss out.
futaba said:
He has also proven that he can suck ***. Other than the one year with Brady's players (which ended with a loss to State in the SECT and an early NCAA exit) he really hasn't won much. His last year at LSUwas atrocious and this year may be even worse without Mitchell. Yet for some reasonrecruits just gravitate to LSU in defiance of logic.
He also made the Sweet 16 TWICE in 5 years with Nevada and Stanford. I can name 5 SEC West coaches that haven't done that at ANY school. It's pretty amazing how the standards for basketball coaches change on this board when trying to justify success/failure.
And if you look at the roster, Josh Childress went pro when Montgomery left. He lead Stanford to their Sweet 16 during the Lopez twins sophomore year and then took the LSU job.
It's all in how you spin the numbers. You can knock Johnson for not winning enough, yet going to the Sweet 16. And in contrast, you can pump up Stansbury for his 20 win seasons against cupcake city and going to the NIT or bowing out of the tourney by the 2nd round.
It's all in how you spin the numbers. You can knock Johnson for not winning enough, yet going to the Sweet 16. And in contrast, you can pump up Stansbury for his 20 win seasons against cupcake city and going to the NIT or bowing out of the tourney by the 2nd round.
I think DawgatAuburn's re-post says it all. Johnson stepped into a couple of really good situations and parlayed it into new jobs.MSUCosmo said:
If Stansbury had been to 2 Sweet Sixteens but only won more than twenty games three times in eleven seasons then I think the majority of State fans would want him fired for failing to have consistent success.