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brgRC90

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College football will kill itself the way boxing did with pay-per-view if it tries to squeeze too much money from people just to watch games. I won't pay. Someone will make money but the profile of the sport will shrink. Everything I see shows me that the short-sighted leadership in college football today doesn't get it and are just in love with the money.
 

Mikemarc

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I haven't signed up for Peacock. To get all the Yankees games this year would involve 3 different streaming services. My simple response is NFW, and would be the same even if they were not a dumpster fire.

I’m not sure sports are included..but Peacock offers a free tier. All it takes is a 5 second download.
 

gmay8

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Feels like we're back in the Big East or AAC days where I'd need to scramble to find some random ESPN channel I didn't have.
I remember the @ Washington opening game a few years back I had to find the game on a website and run a wire from my Ipad to my TV just to watch it... (ps i stink at tecnhnology)
 

NickRU714

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College football will kill itself the way boxing did with pay-per-view if it tries to squeeze too much money from people just to watch games. I won't pay. Someone will make money but the profile of the sport will shrink. Everything I see shows me that the short-sighted leadership in college football today doesn't get it and are just in love with the money.

Can't expect the networks to pay the Big Ten $1b a year without monetizing on their end.

Money has to come from somewhere.

That means more commercials, more exclusive streaming and such.
 
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There will be so many games on cable tv in NJ to chose from at that time but the State University of NJ’s game will not be available
 
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Can't expect the networks to pay the Big Ten $1b a year without monetizing on their end.

Money has to come from somewhere.

That means more commercials, more exclusive streaming and such.
What, it's not a magic money tree we just shake?

Don't know if I'll sign up for Peacock, tend to think I won't because I have too many services I don't watch enough as is. Good chance it'll be back to the future for me and my old listen on the radio days when we weren't on tv.
 
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brgRC90

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Can't expect the networks to pay the Big Ten $1b a year without monetizing on their end.

Money has to come from somewhere.

That means more commercials, more exclusive streaming and such.
In other words, their decisions are being driven by money, with little concern for long-term viability. Funny, but for decades college football thrived without streaming services and billion dollar contracts. Maybe these media companies should be offering less money. I like college football a lot and even I'm not going to sign up for a bunch of additional services to watch games. More casual fans will tune out completely.
 
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In other words, their decisions are being driven by money, with little concern for long-term viability. Funny, but for decades college football thrived without streaming services and billion dollar contracts. Maybe these media companies should be offering less money. I like college football a lot and even I'm not going to sign up for a bunch of additional services to watch games. More casual fans will tune out completely.
It is driven by money but there's still plenty enough access. If it went exclusively streaming then yea I'd say that would be bad for the viability of the sport. Some day it may go that way when streaming becomes more the norm but that's not now.

These conferences did turn down more money to be exclusively streaming. The PAC teams couldn't even accept an exclusive streaming deal with Apple.

The B10 is across 3 broadcast networks specifically for access and broad reach. The ESPN family still broadcasts a ton of games. Will there be some games that are harder to reach? Yes but the majority will still be accessible.

Many decisions are driven by money but there is still some cognizance on the health of the sport. There's a reason the playoffs are expanding (money is the biggest one but not the only one). In the past the G5 got access to the BCS bowls, now they're getting access to the CFP and teams that are of lower status have made more noise than they ever have in the past (Boise, UCF, Cincy, TCU etc..)

Yes money is the biggest factor in a lot of things but regardless CFB is still healthy and strong and opportunity for lower status teams is better than its ever been.
 
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NickRU714

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In other words, their decisions are being driven by money, with little concern for long-term viability. Funny, but for decades college football thrived without streaming services and billion dollar contracts. Maybe these media companies should be offering less money. I like college football a lot and even I'm not going to sign up for a bunch of additional services to watch games. More casual fans will tune out completely.

Yup.
It's turning into "Jerry Maguire" all over again.

ADs are addicted to the money and ability to spend however they want with little oversight.
Try to tell AD Hobbs he should vote against receiving $80m/year because fans will have to stream games or players will travel to California. They don't really care.
Not likely he's going to agree to operate on only $30m just to stay in a local, regional conference.

I think most fans would revolt too - although perhaps more and more are joining your sentiment with each expansion.
Image if he said "we're leaving the Big Ten. We don't want to subject our athletes to cross country trips and lose local regional rivalries that made college athletics great. Less money but more traditional college athletics."
 

brgRC90

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Yup.
It's turning into "Jerry Maguire" all over again.

ADs are addicted to the money and ability to spend however they want with little oversight.
Try to tell AD Hobbs he should vote against receiving $80m/year because fans will have to stream games or players will travel to California. They don't really care.
Not likely he's going to agree to operate on only $30m just to stay in a local, regional conference.

I think most fans would revolt too - although perhaps more and more are joining your sentiment with each expansion.
Image if he said "we're leaving the Big Ten. We don't want to subject our athletes to cross country trips and lose local regional rivalries that made college athletics great. Less money but more traditional college athletics."
I'd imagine a line has already been crossed and there's no going back. Once people get a whiff of the big time they don't want to go back to small time. But where is all this money even going? Ever larger salaries for the head coach? Stadiums that are renovated every 15 years. And all this media money has nothing to do with NIL, which is even more money shoveled into the sport. Meanwhile, the product on the field won't change at all. More money for the same product! What's not to love??
 

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Glad I got the $20 for a year of peacock in June. Sucks Xfinity customers lost free subscriptions after three years but $20 for one is better than none
 

brgRC90

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It is driven by money but there's still plenty enough access. If it went exclusively streaming then yea I'd say that would be bad for the viability of the sport. Some day it may go that way when streaming becomes more the norm but that's not now.

These conferences did turn down more money to be exclusively streaming. The PAC teams couldn't even accept an exclusive streaming deal with Apple.

The B10 is across 3 broadcast networks specifically for access and broad reach. The ESPN family still broadcasts a ton of games. Will there be some games that are harder to reach? Yes but the majority will still be accessible.

Many decisions are driven by money but there is still some cognizance on the health of the sport. There's a reason the playanoffs are expanding (money is the biggest one but not the only one). In the past the G5 got access to the BCS bowls, now they're getting access to the CFP and teams that are of lower status have made more noise than they ever have in the past (Boise, UCF, Cincy, TCU etc..)

Yes money is the biggest factor in a lot of things but regardless CFB is still healthy and strong and opportunity for lower status teams is better than its ever been.
Only time will tell. The lure of money is strong. Programs are tossing away 100 year regional rivalries for it. And it's always a slippery slope. Once you start with a few games on a paid service the trend will likely be for more and more. Meanwhile, traditional cable is fading--so fewer and fewer younger people will see the sport on networks and ESPN. A big transition was inevitable anyway but too much money tends to lead to bad decisions
 
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Only time will tell. The lure of money is strong. Programs are tossing away 100 year regional rivalries for it. And it's always a slippery slope. Once you start with a few games on a paid service the trend will likely be for more and more. Meanwhile, traditional cable is fading--so fewer and fewer younger people will see the sport on networks and ESPN. A big transition was inevitable anyway but too much money tends to lead to bad decisions
Well once it does go full streaming, it will be with a given that a large percentage of the public is consuming media (sports media) in that fashion. I don't see them transitioning in that direction on any big scale until they think that. Media companies and the sports themselves want to keep that broad reach too, not just us fans.

The CFB championship used to be on broadcast tv but now it's on ESPN (cable) but it didn't hurt it and the sport still thrives.

The part I fully and wholeheartedly endorse is that many of these admins do a lousy job allocating/utilizing all that money they get. Getting more money is good but it's mainly good if you use it wisely, otherwise just another wasted resource.
 
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Knight Shift

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Glad I got the $20 for a year of peacock in June. Sucks Xfinity customers lost free subscriptions after three years but $20 for one is better than none
There are a lot of ways to get "free" subscriptions for Peacock and other streaming services, such as through Verizon. It's an essential streaming service if you want to watch new Beavis and Butt-Head episodes. Bret Bielema stars in the Old Beavis and Butt-Head episodes.

EDIT- correction- Beavis and Butt-Head are on Paramount Plus. Peacock- who watches that crap? I think we have a freebie on that too.

 
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brgRC90

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Well once it does go full streaming, it will be with a given that a large percentage of the public is consuming media (sports media) in that fashion. I don't see them transitioning in that direction on any big scale until they think that. Media companies and the sports themselves want to keep that broad reach too, not just us fans.

The CFB championship used to be on broadcast tv but now it's on ESPN (cable) but it didn't hurt it and the sport still thrives.

The part I fully and wholeheartedly endorse is that many of these admins do a lousy job allocating/utilizing all that money they get. Getting more money is good but it's mainly good if you use it wisely, otherwise just another wasted resource.
That's a problem across universities and a reason higher education has become so expensive. Once the academic part of universities got into the habit of raising huge amounts of money from donations they seem to have decided that instead of working harder to save money and eliminate waste it was easier to just keep raising more money. It's easier to raise another $10 million than it is to find $10 million in savings. And it's always more fun to spend more money than less of it and they got good at fundraising once they started hiring experts at it. But some of the money has to come from somewhere ultimately, and that's become students and now college sports fans, with NIL donations, higher ticket prices, streaming services, trips to Vegss for games.
 
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mdk02

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The CFB championship used to be on broadcast tv but now it's on ESPN (cable) but it didn't hurt it and the sport still thrives.

35-40 years after ESPN was on a majority of the basic cable menus. If you're talking about 2045-2050 you might have something.
 
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35-40 years after ESPN was on a majority of the basic cable menus. If you're talking about 2045-2050 you might have something.
Never give a timetable because that's hard to predict. But when the majority of games move to streaming it will be with a given that it's just like your ESPN example, as in its accessible and utilized just as widely to consume media (sport media).
 

e5fdny

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This will be the new ESPN3 or ESPN360. Relegation with out the word being used.

It’s on TV but…
That being said, we can control our own destiny in this dept.

Just have to do one thing.
 

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More B1G TV schedules on FOX & Peacock (P), sources told @ActionNetworkHQ, if no games flexed to other networks. Times ET

Sept 23 Oklahoma at Cincinnati, noon (FOX)
Sept 30 Michigan at Nebraska, noon (FOX)
Sept 30 Mich State at Iowa 3:30 (P)
Oct 7 Rutgers at Wisconsin noon (P)
Oct 7 Maryland at Ohio St 3:30 (P)
Oct 14 Ohio St at Purdue noon (FOX)
Oct 14 Illinois at Maryland noon (P)
Nov 4 Iowa vs Northwestern 3:30 (P)
Nov 11 Minnesota at Purdue noon (P)
 
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