Odd situation going into a game knowing the coach is fired

[Tractorman]

I don't know what the reaction of the players, fans or coach will be. Do the players lay down or rally behind the coach? Do the fans boo, stay at home, or give it hell one more time? Does coach try to prove them wrong or say 17u with his play calling.

I don't think I have ever seen this scenario. The closest I've seen is its announced coach knows he is fired at the end of the season, so the last game of the year is thanks to the coach type atmosphere. In those situations, said coach tends to lose anyway. Firing a coach mid season, but, telling coach go do it one more time because it is best for the program is on another level.

If your boss told you today that you will be fired after the weekend, but, they need you to come work on Saturday because they aren't prepared to fill your position until next week. That's what we have here.

 

[Chesusdog]

I can't see any way in which the team "rallies" around Sunbelt Billy. It really comes down to does he go scorched earth on UF and **** things up on purpose or does his pride make him coach his *** off? If it were me, I'd go the former and make them fire me at half by being willfully incompetent.

 

[Pars]

In my mind the players are trying out for portal spots and maybe play their *** off

 

[onewoof]

what is Billy's payout?

 

[MoronDawg]

This development has the fingerprints of the Mississippi State cabal all over it.

 

[Dawgbite]

We are certified coach killers. Ours, there’s, anyone’s, it doesn’t matter.

 

[Willow Grove Dawg]

what is Billy's payout?

Per the AI
$21 million
50% due within 30 of his termination
Remaining 50% in 3 equal installments July 2026, July 2027, & July 2028
There is no offset language

 

[El Perro Grande]

Loafers is the deep STATE at UF.

 

[RocketDawg]

Per the AI
$21 million
50% due within 30 of his termination
Remaining 50% in 3 equal installments July 2026, July 2027, & July 2028
There is no offset language

That's a pretty good income for several years with no work required.

 

[onewoof]

That's a pretty good income for several years with no work required.

In realizing more and more the goal is to GET a top P4 coaching job contract. The goal is not to win or to keep the job.

 

[GloryDawg]

We for sure he is gone?

 

[Pink Floyd.sixpack]

Is there any credible info about his firing? Or is this trusting tweets and instagram posts from those who think they are in the know? Just because Penn State yanked the chain on Franklin doesn’t mean everyone else will follow suit. Although Florida should have weeks ago. Anything official or just rampant internet speculation about the most obvious hot seat in the NCAA?

 

[22yardpunt]

Is there any credible info about his firing? Or is this trusting tweets and instagram posts from those who think they are in the know? Just because Penn State yanked the chain on Franklin doesn’t mean everyone else will follow suit. Although Florida should have weeks ago. Anything official or just rampant internet speculation about the most obvious hot seat in the NCAA?

Napier is absolutely going to be fired per credible internet sources that are in the know based on highflying credible intel.

Yahoo did report that it appears he is on the way out.

Too much smoke for it not to be true.

 

[Bulldog45]

If your boss told you today that you will be fired after the weekend, but, they need you to come work on Saturday because they aren't prepared to fill your position until next week. That's what we have here.

Throw in the fact they have to cut me a check for $11.7 million before Thanksgiving and I’m coming into work looking something like this:

 

[boatsandhoes]

In realizing more and more the goal is to GET a top P4 coaching job contract. The goal is not to win or to keep the job.

It’s funny to me, Florida has virtually sucked since Urban (who got sick of them and left), it’s like Occam’s razor. Florida has big narcissistic tendencies, maybe look in the mirror jorts. It’s not them, it’s you.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

It’s funny to me, Florida has virtually sucked since Urban (who got sick of them and left), it’s like Occam’s razor. Florida has big narcissistic tendencies, maybe look in the mirror jorts. It’s not them, it’s you.

They make terrible hires. They don’t even make sense….not even Mullen.

 

[40 acres and a mule]

I can't see any way in which the team "rallies" around Sunbelt Billy. It really comes down to does he go scorched earth on UF and **** things up on purpose or does his pride make him coach his *** off? If it were me, I'd go the former and make them fire me at half by being willfully incompetent.

The term "willingly incompetent" reminds me of Arnett standing on the sideline with his arms folded, doing nothing. It still took our dumbarse administration half a season to get rid of him. And everyone wonders why we perpetually suck.

 

[The Peeper]

Per the AI
$21 million
50% due within 30 of his termination
Remaining 50% in 3 equal installments July 2026, July 2027, & July 2028
There is no offset language

I would do whatever I needed to get every cent of that buyout. Doesn't make sense to not coach or try and embarrass anybody like others have insinuated. Take a year or 2 off and get your head together and decide if you want to work again or just enjoy the rest of your life

 

[boatsandhoes]

They make terrible hires. They don’t even make sense….not even Mullen.

I actually don’t think Billy was a bad hire. He was beating *** at UL. He didn’t all sudden suck. You got a bunch of diva players at FLA.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

I actually don’t think Billy was a bad hire. He was beating *** at UL. He didn’t all sudden suck. You got a bunch of diva players at FLA.

I do. He wasn’t ready.

 

[patdog]

Napier is absolutely going to be fired per credible internet sources that are in the know based on highflying credible intel.

Yahoo did report that it appears he is on the way out.

Too much smoke for it not to be true.

Yeah. Reports that Stricklin met with influential boosters yesterday is the smoking gun. But really, Florida team has been dealing with this for a year now. I don’t think it will have a huge effect on this game. They’ll play hard like they always have.

 

[patdog]

It’s funny to me, Florida has virtually sucked since Urban (who got sick of them and left), it’s like Occam’s razor. Florida has big narcissistic tendencies, maybe look in the mirror jorts. It’s not them, it’s you.

They had 3 damn good years with one coach since then.

 

[patdog]

I do. He wasn’t ready.

Yeah. If you’re Florida you hire a successful P4 coach or a top P4 coordinator. A G5 coach is just a big risk because the stage is so much higher.

 

[Wesson Bulldog]

Napier may punt on first down every series. He's in a great position to **** around since he's pretty much already found out.

 

[johnson86-1]

I actually don’t think Billy was a bad hire. He was beating *** at UL. He didn’t all sudden suck. You got a bunch of diva players at FLA.

Billy was a bad hire after firing Mullen. Florida fired Muschamp when the program was in decent enough shape to win immediately, fired McElwain when the program was in decent enough shape to win immediately, and then fired Mullen.
I think they gave Muschamp enough time. McElwain and Mullen both falling off after promising starts and then quickly
Pulling the trigger should have them wondering if they’re the problem.

but you don’t fire Mullen and pay him a bunch of money just to commit $45M or whatever it was at the time to sunbelt Billy. Loafers got completely worked over on that deal.

 

[boatsandhoes]

I do. He wasn’t ready.

No shock we disagree. Florida gets as many talented players as anyone in the country. And…a shitload of bad attitudes

 

[boatsandhoes]

Billy was a bad hire after firing Mullen. Florida fired Muschamp when the program was in decent enough shape to win immediately, fired McElwain when the program was in decent enough shape to win immediately, and then fired Mullen.
I think they gave Muschamp enough time. McElwain and Mullen both falling off after promising starts and then quickly
Pulling the trigger should have them wondering if they’re the problem.

but you don’t fire Mullen and pay him a bunch of money just to commit $45M or whatever it was at the time to sunbelt Billy. Loafers got completely worked over on that deal.

I’m shocked Mullen didn’t work out

 

[GloryDawg]

If Strickling truly still loved Miss State, he would fire him at mid night Friday Night.

 

[patdog]

No shock we disagree. Florida gets as many talented players as anyone in the country. And…a shitload of bad attitudes

There is something to this. 30 years ago Florida HS football was producing a lot of talented players. But over time the culture has changed. Now it still produces talented players. But a lot of them have bad attitudes and/or major off field issues.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

I’m shocked Mullen didn’t work out

He did work out, at least on paper. In 4 years, they had 2 top 10 finishes and another at #13. And even in the year they went 6-6, they were pretty unlucky, with 4 of thee losses being by 1 score games.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

No shock we disagree. Florida gets as many talented players as anyone in the country. And…a shitload of bad attitudes

Kids are the same everywhere. So yeah we disagree.

Florida gets better talent. So the same skills at MSU don’t work.

 

[paindonthurt]

Yeah. If you’re Florida you hire a successful P4 coach or a top P4 coordinator. A G5 coach is just a big risk because the stage is so much higher.

So if Florida had hired Cignetti when Indiana did would that be a bad hire?

 

[Dawgzilla2]

I guess Napier can finally open the playbook and throw everything at us.

 

[boatsandhoes]

Kids are the same everywhere. So yeah we disagree.

Florida gets better talent. So the same skills at MSU don’t work.

No, they aren’t the same everywhere.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

No, they aren’t the same everywhere.

I want to rephrase, I actually agree that kids around the country have different trends by region. That is true. FL kids do have an edge, and have really always had it. I mean look at Miami and Florida State back in the day.

What I meant was that, I don't think that Florida kids' edgy attitude is why Bubba Napier failed. The expectation there is to get top classes and win 10 games plus. While it's easier to do that there than many other places, it's still not easy to actually pull it off. That pressure is crazy. Danny got closest than anybody since Meyer, and it ultimately ate him up too.

 

[msualohadog]

There will be some emotions at the beginning for UF, but once the hitting starts it's just another game. Hopefully during the 4th quarter they will get tired and quit.

 

[johnson86-1]

He did work out, at least on paper. In 4 years, they had 2 top 10 finishes and another at #13. And even in the year they went 6-6, they were pretty unlucky, with 4 of thee losses being by 1 score games.

I think what got Mullen was chasing recruiting rankings. I can't remember which coach said it (it may have been Mullen), but it was something to the effect of "whoever you get, that's who you are", not meaning that's how talented you are, but that you are going to get kids that reflect your program, which largely means your kids are going to reflect the head coach.

At MSU, a lot of the high profile recruits Mullen missed on probably would have been headaches for him and the program. We had a natural filter that limited the number of players that were going to crash and burn under his coaching methods. At UF, the name brand and money was enough to eliminate the filter from Mullen's attitude and created a locker room problem for him. Hell, the filter may have been worse at UF, because some of the more self aware high profile athletes may have still skipped out on him, but the ones that only cared about money and brand name would maybe still come and those would have been the worst ones as far as fitting Mullen's coaching style. Mullen probalby would have been more successful long term if Boosters would have accepted them dropping in the rankings but getting players that were a better fit for Mullen. Still would have had lots of talent, it just wouldn't have been top 10 recruiting classes on paper and it would have taken a few years to establish a pipeline that allowed them to be top ten year in and year out while being slightly less talented on paper but better coached and more consistency.

 

[LandArchDawg]

I don't know what the reaction of the players, fans or coach will be. Do the players lay down or rally behind the coach? Do the fans boo, stay at home, or give it hell one more time? Does coach try to prove them wrong or say 17u with his play calling.

I don't think I have ever seen this scenario. The closest I've seen is its announced coach knows he is fired at the end of the season, so the last game of the year is thanks to the coach type atmosphere. In those situations, said coach tends to lose anyway. Firing a coach mid season, but, telling coach go do it one more time because it is best for the program is on another level.

If your boss told you today that you will be fired after the weekend, but, they need you to come work on Saturday because they aren't prepared to fill your position until next week. That's what we have here.

It's their homecoming, so the fans will be there regardless. Depending on how the game is going the stadium may end up half empty by the 4th quarter.

 

[Wesson Bulldog]

Fred Reid was our generational talent from Florida back a few years ago.

 

[prdubya]

If Strickling truly still loved Miss State, he would fire him at mid night Friday Night.

This would be the only thing he could do to redeem himself to me.

And it still wouldn’t be enough. 17 that guy. Hope he is shown the door from UF soon too and we can tell him to pound sand.