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Pretty good look. What do ya'll think?
Pretty good look. What do ya'll think?
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Pretty good look. What do ya'll think?
Pretty good look. What do ya'll think?
and interesting that there's no mention of Tyler Russell. I know he's still got a lot of years left, but if he really can't assume the starting role this year, I will be disappointed. Whether he "fits" Mullen's offense or not, I really had high expectations for him.
Other than that, I think they got the biggest question mark wrong. The QB spot is a question mark, but Dixon's replacement is the million dollar question. For an offense the relies so heavily on a strong running game, finding someone to fill AD's shoes will be much more vital.
Other than that, I think they got the biggest question mark wrong. The QB spot is a question mark, but Dixon's replacement is the million dollar question. For an offense the relies so heavily on a strong running game, finding someone to fill AD's shoes will be much more vital.
Will we have as good a running game next year? Of course not. Dixon was the best running back we've ever had. But we'll end up being decent with the several playable guys we have. At least one will step up, if not two or three. I've got high hopes for Ballard and Conner. Regardless, Mullen will model the offense according to the performers we have.
Tyler Russell should be the starter for next year.
Tyler Russell should be the starter for next year.
And the juco transfer is a juco all american, so he should at least be able to at least hold his own. I would expect our offense to go to a more pass based offense than it was this year, since we'll have a quarterback who can throw it better than Tyson (by default). Also remember, Relf will be used in the running game as well, which worked out for us just fine last year.
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coaches 2008. I simply asked- "What do you think of Tyler Russell?"
his response- "Tyler Russell is a pretty good QB <span style="text-decoration:underline">but he can't out-run a dead man</span>. State is going to have to change some of what they do on offense if he is going to be the starting QB. Russell would fit in much better in Ole Miss' offense."
That's the 2nd high school coach that has told me that...just relaying the message
his response- "Tyler Russell is a pretty good QB <span style="text-decoration:underline">but he can't out-run a dead man</span>. State is going to have to change some of what they do on offense if he is going to be the starting QB. Russell would fit in much better in Ole Miss' offense."
That's the 2nd high school coach that has told me that...just relaying the message
Coach34 said:
Because I remember Tyler running several option plays for Meridian against South Panola in the State Championship Game and getting good yardage. Yes, Meridian was a throwing team, but it should be obvious why, and I do agree that Russell is more of a passer than a runner for sure.
I'm not doubting what you were told, but I do find it surprising that a coach from South Panola would say that after what happened in the State Championship Game.
Granted he isn't as good a coach as you, but I think he will do just fine. I really don't think any jock washing high school coaches can say how Tyler will fit in Mullen's offense. On top of that, opinions are like ******** everyone has one and they usually stink. You should know that better than anyone coach.
TheBigDA said:
why we can't be a pass first spread team. I'm not saying that we should abandon the run or anything like that, or even throw it as much as someone like June Jones does, but if I was Mullen I don't see why we couldn't throw the ball more than we run it if that is the strength of our players. Especially since Tebow had something like 32 TD passes under Mullen.
but, we are gonna be two years down the road since Russell whipped his ***.
Do we really worry about what he has to say?
Do we really worry about what he has to say?
TheBigDA said:
A. Mullen is a much better coach than I was
B. A 5A football coach that played college and pro football and has watched 12 or 13 game tapes in addition to coaching against him live probably can give a proper evaluation on how he would fit into a system in which he is required to be mobile
C. That makes 2 coaches saying the exact same thing and these guys have never met. I don't think that's a coincidence
D. Big DA does really fit you
but with two years of strength training, etc. ..
Maybe there is some improvement there. Yes it is hard to improve speed, but maybe somewhat.
From what I have seen from Mullen, he has got to make the reads, and get some yards, running.
Maybe there is some improvement there. Yes it is hard to improve speed, but maybe somewhat.
From what I have seen from Mullen, he has got to make the reads, and get some yards, running.
...people on thisboard would have respect for thisguy's opinion. He doesknow a little bit about a running game.Coach34 said:
You apparently missed your QB's epic collapseall year. Compare his numbers in '08 with his numbers in '09 and get back with me on "fitting the offense to player strengths".TheBigDA said:
I trust you on this one. After all, no QB had an epic collapse quite like Jevan Snead. I guess Nutt isn't very good at "fitting the offense to player strengths" either.jackstefano said:
Our QB didn't have an epic collapse; he simply sucked.Tyson Lee would have sucked no matter who he playedfor.
this thread isn't about Jevan Snead. Start one about him and we can have that discussion. The poster talked about Mullen fitting his offense to his players' strengths, which is complete ******** if you look at last year. Lee -- who was serviceable in '08 -- took a nose dive in every statistical category. Without Dixon, this year will be a greater challenge for Mullen. Vic Ballard needs to step the hell up. I think Russell this year will be better than Lee last year (not really going out on a limb on that one though).</p>
Every coach says they will adapt their system to fit their players, but most everyone knew that Mullen wasn't going to scrap the spread-option just because Tyson Lee sucked.
You and I do see eye to eye for the most part on the Stans issue, but why try and stick a fork in the kid when he hasn't even taken a snap. In that regard, I think my retort was spot on.
Also, I think Mullen will have his offense more resembling what he and Urban did at Utah with Alex Smith than what they have had at Florida. Mullen has said numerous times that they only implemented this year what they could run and run best, not all things that can be run out of the system. Stating that we need a running QB based off this year alone and really one game (UM) is wrong. Relf is strongest at running and that's what he did. With Lee, Mullen was hired to bring a new offense and he knew to keep his boss happy,get fans behind him, and entice future recruits:Mullen was going to have to go with a spread attack even with Lee at QB.
We have the highest rated QB ever on campus, just give him a shot before taking shots at him. No matter the source.
Also, I think Mullen will have his offense more resembling what he and Urban did at Utah with Alex Smith than what they have had at Florida. Mullen has said numerous times that they only implemented this year what they could run and run best, not all things that can be run out of the system. Stating that we need a running QB based off this year alone and really one game (UM) is wrong. Relf is strongest at running and that's what he did. With Lee, Mullen was hired to bring a new offense and he knew to keep his boss happy,get fans behind him, and entice future recruits:Mullen was going to have to go with a spread attack even with Lee at QB.
We have the highest rated QB ever on campus, just give him a shot before taking shots at him. No matter the source.
jackstefano said:
this year and last, I really believe that after he failed to score against LSU, that he kind of went into a shell whenever we got to the red zone. He sucked, and then on top of that, he became a head case that sucked. Many of our turnovers last season were in the red zone- be it a Tyson INT or a botched handoff from Tyson. Between the 20's, we moved it OK with Tyson. Lee also had a very high completion PCT, and much of that was between the 20's. If the offense wasn't tailored towards his strengths- and there weren't many- I would think that you would see a much lower completion PCT in addition to the bad TD/INT ratio.
You can maybe blame that on Mullen for making a questionable call (debatably), but at the same time, Tyson should have been able to mentally handle failure, and I don't think that's all on Dan, and it certainly has nothing to do with his offensive system. Of course, Tyson was a walk-on in the first place and many will argue that because of that, he shouldn't have been on the field in the first place, and we can thank Croom for that.
And I don't mean this as a flame, but we also had Chris Relf, and you have to admit that Dan certainly tailored his offense to fit his strength- all seven plays. And Relf performed well not just against Ole Miss, but he also had some pretty good games running the ball against Arkansas and Kentucky for example. I would certainly say that Relf improved markedly under Dan.
The only real strength Lee had was heart and determination. As discussed many times, he was not SEC caliber and did not have running or throwing ability that would be considered a strength. Mullen built an offense that was much more successful than any in the past 5 years. Offensive success isn't necessarily about the QBs stats but the overall offense's stats. </p>
Dan Marino couldn't run either, and he turned out ok....
The point was that we are going to have two QB's with two very different skill sets and I think it's very interesting as to what the offensive coaches are going to do about it. Will Mullen change up whats he has done the last few years or will he stay with it and Relf and have Russell come in some with his own package?
And Alex Smith at Utah rushed for over 1,000 yards and averaged 12 carries a game by the way
The point was that we are going to have two QB's with two very different skill sets and I think it's very interesting as to what the offensive coaches are going to do about it. Will Mullen change up whats he has done the last few years or will he stay with it and Relf and have Russell come in some with his own package?
And Alex Smith at Utah rushed for over 1,000 yards and averaged 12 carries a game by the way
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I seriously doubt Robinson is "ready to play now." In fact, he may be a project that takes more than two years. We shall see.
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I seriously doubt Robinson is "ready to play now." In fact, he may be a project that takes more than two years. We shall see.
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Is how well will or RBs block and catch passes. Hanging on to the football. Stuff like that.
I'm not concerned about our ability to run the ball. Between Conner, Ballard, Elliott and Perkins we're going to have a guy who can tote the tater. It's the other little things that RBs do that I'm a little leery of.
I'm not concerned about our ability to run the ball. Between Conner, Ballard, Elliott and Perkins we're going to have a guy who can tote the tater. It's the other little things that RBs do that I'm a little leery of.
I have seen a lot of people describe him as a project but occasionally i see him described as ready to go. Is the only reason why he is "ready to go" is because he already has the size? I always thought of the OL position as one you cant just start at right away. It takes time to get that stuff down in the SEC right
"Fitting the offense to the player's strengths" isn't to benefitan individual player's stats, it's to improve the TEAM'S overall offense, which Mullen most certainly did.Mullen improved the offense from finishing#100+ for five straight years under Croomto #65 in hisfirst year (and against the #1 toughest schedule in 2009 andsecond toughestschedulein the whole NCAAoverthe past10 years).jackstefano said: