Toggle sidebar

Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

D

DowntownDawg

Redshirt
May 28, 2007
3,494
0
0
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

spreading over these three categories:
1) Personnel, i.e. lack of SEC talent
2) Coaching (Gameplanning, player development, playcalling, gameday decision making)
3) Scheme

Here's mine: Personnel 40%, Coaching 40%, Scheme 20%.
 
D

DowntownDawg

Redshirt
May 28, 2007
3,494
0
0
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

spreading over these three categories:
1) Personnel, i.e. lack of SEC talent
2) Coaching (Gameplanning, player development, playcalling, gameday decision making)
3) Scheme

Here's mine: Personnel 40%, Coaching 40%, Scheme 20%.
 
D

DowntownDawg

Redshirt
May 28, 2007
3,494
0
0
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

spreading over these three categories:
1) Personnel, i.e. lack of SEC talent
2) Coaching (Gameplanning, player development, playcalling, gameday decision making)
3) Scheme

Here's mine: Personnel 40%, Coaching 40%, Scheme 20%.
 
U

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

All-Conference
May 28, 2007
17,941
3,898
113
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

Personnel - 15% (would be 30% but half of our personnel problems go to the coach for not recruiting well)
Coaching - 75% (Croom has never managed the game well, hasn't recruited well, hasn't adapted until it's too late, QBs always seem to regress)
Scheme - 10% (Again, I would rate this higher but it goes back to our coaching.)

Bottom line is that the coaching is holding us back, or maybe doesn't know how to go forward.
 
dawgstudent

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
39,262
18,418
113
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:
 
L

lannsd

Redshirt
Mar 3, 2008
134
0
0
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

Personnel: 5%
Coaching: 70%
Scheme: 25%
 
E

engineerdog

Redshirt
Jun 3, 2008
114
0
0
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

Personnel - 40%
Coaching - 40%
Scheme - 39%

I know this should add up to 100%, but it doesn't. In keeping with the spirit of discussing our offense, I am missing an assignment.
 
F

futaba.79

Redshirt
Jun 4, 2007
2,296
0
0
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

name the MSU player that could start for LSU or UF on offense.
 
D

DowntownDawg

Redshirt
May 28, 2007
3,494
0
0
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

....I think a big part of our problem is a lack of talent on that side of the ball, which goes back to Croom's recruiting. Our talent, outside of Dixon and Ducre is very young.
 
HD6

HD6

Sophomore
Apr 8, 2003
10,019
108
63
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

which is why the correct percentages are.....

Personnel-0%
Coaching/Scheme-100%

We don't have the talent to run this offense, but Bonehead McDumbass continues to plug away.
 
GloryDawg

GloryDawg

Heisman
Mar 3, 2005
18,932
14,821
113
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

Dumb *** coaches.
 
S

saltybulldog

Redshirt
Nov 15, 2005
1,394
1
32
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

to make an offense effective. Would I love to have their player? Well sure.

I would go with

(a) 15%
(b) 70 %
(c) 15%
 
D

DowntownDawg

Redshirt
May 28, 2007
3,494
0
0
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

...we could have the best offensive coaches in America running the perfect scheme for our players and still be in the 40-60's range offensively. We don't have the horses, but we could obviously do a lot better with what we have under a different set of coaches and a different system.
 
HD6

HD6

Sophomore
Apr 8, 2003
10,019
108
63
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

were in the 40-60 range, we'd be no worse than 3-2 right this second and wouldn't be having any of these discussions.
 
C

cps36

Redshirt
Jul 14, 2008
661
0
0
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

Don't soft pedal it. White smoke it!

We. are. having. a. bad. decade.
 
T

Todd4State

Redshirt
Mar 3, 2008
17,411
1
0
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

15% personnel
80% coaching
5% scheme

I think coaching goes back to the other two at least to some extent. It's up to the coaches to find good players and develop them. It's also up to the coaches to use an offense that they can effectively teach and the players effectively learn.

Let's look at the two offenses that Croom claims we are running:

The WCO- Worked well for the 49ers when they had Joe Montana and Jerry Rice. For us, not so well.

The spread- I'm going to assume that we're trying to run a little bit of the spread option for clarification. Worked great at WV with Pat White and Steve Slaton. For us again, not so well.
 
D

DowntownDawg

Redshirt
May 28, 2007
3,494
0
0
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

...that's why I think a whole lot of it is lack of talent. The best offenses, for the most part, have the best players, regardless of scheme.
 
HD6

HD6

Sophomore
Apr 8, 2003
10,019
108
63
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

Texas Tech players are currently starting in the NFL? The only one I know is Wes Welker. You don't have to have top flight, super elite talent to move the football in college.
 
DawgatAuburn

DawgatAuburn

All-Conference
Apr 25, 2006
10,972
1,726
113
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

They have had several OL drafted in the last few years, so they haven't been devoid of NFL quality talent. I don't know how many of those guys are normal starters.
 
T

Todd4State

Redshirt
Mar 3, 2008
17,411
1
0
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

that they also have one of the top WR's in the country right now, along with one of the top QB's.
 
8

8dog

All-American
Feb 23, 2008
13,898
5,734
113
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

they just insert anyone in at quarterback and he blows up. That is why I think its such a myth that we'll never have a good passing qb.
 
MaxwellSmart

MaxwellSmart

Senior
May 28, 2007
2,450
765
113
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

Personnel- 1%

Coaching- 79.17%

Scheme- 19.83%
 
8

8dog

All-American
Feb 23, 2008
13,898
5,734
113
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

b/c of everything Leach has done for the first 7 years with much less to work with. Crabtree is the Pat Patterson Story at work.
 
HD6

HD6

Sophomore
Apr 8, 2003
10,019
108
63
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

after enough years of throwing 40-50 times a game, you will get top flight QB's and WR's.
 
F

Fletch Fletcher

Redshirt
Sep 25, 2006
620
0
0
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

futaba said:
name the MSU player that could start for LSU or UF on offense.
Click to expand...
You could ask the same question about Georgia Tech and the answer would be the same, but that doesn't stop them from putting together a pretty damn good offense.
 
D

DowntownDawg

Redshirt
May 28, 2007
3,494
0
0
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

...we can't get a good quarterback because we can't throw the ball, and we can't throw the ball because we can't get a good quarterback. Same with receivers.
 
O

Optimus Prime 4

Redshirt
May 1, 2006
8,560
0
0
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

which in turn brings in better QB's.
 
D

DowntownDawg

Redshirt
May 28, 2007
3,494
0
0
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

...is that you put up numbers with average players to attract the good players. And it takes a competent coaching staff for that.
 
dawgstudent

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
39,262
18,418
113
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

the talent we have is not being utilized to it's ability.

Either way you slice it, it all lands on Croom.
 
S

Stormrider81

Redshirt
May 1, 2006
2,083
0
0
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

0%
100%
0%

If we had better offensive coaching we wouldn't be having this discussion. Playcalling has been a problem with us for years, as has been our QB coaching (or lack thereof). As far as talent goes, we don't have the greatest talent, but I don't buy the argument that a big part of our problem rests here. We have as much talent as we have had in years this season on offense. Yet what do we have - regression at QB, poor playcalling and gameplanning, not playing gamebreakers enough, etc. Give this group to competent offensive coaches and we are 3-2 if not 4-1. Scheme and talent aren't the problem, coaching is.
 
C

Columbus Dawg

Redshirt
Feb 23, 2008
1,642
0
0
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

Based on the question, I just don't understand how any reasonable person could put less than 20% of the blame on personnel. I would put it 70% personnel, 25% horrible gameday decisons, and 5% schemes.

We are starting a walk-on at QB and our best 2 WR's are both walk-ons. With Green out, our TE's are horrible and Green is a freshmen RB recruit. Have any of you paid attention to our tackle play this year? You have to be kidding me.

Now the reason we are in this position falls on Croom, but the question as I understand it, is just talking about this year's performance. Not the how or why.</p>
 
dawgstudent

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
39,262
18,418
113
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

provides better results hence my low percentage.
 
Shmuley

Shmuley

Heisman
Mar 6, 2008
23,697
10,248
113
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

Personnel - Grand Total 70%, with 90% of the 70% composed of ****** recruiting, 5% of the 70% composed of [former] player stupidity, and 5% of the 70% composed of key injuries?
 
C

Columbus Dawg

Redshirt
Feb 23, 2008
1,642
0
0
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

Really? A different scheme would make that much of a difference. What scheme do you propose? The strength of this team and, I use the term strength loosely, still has to be pounding the ball.</p>
 
dawgstudent

dawgstudent

Heisman
Apr 15, 2003
39,262
18,418
113
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

I think we are strong at the WR and RB position. QB is a lot to be desired but as of last week is serviceable and our OL is weak. I am not sure if any scheme really fits our team to a tee but what we are doing now - and producing 15 points/game is not giving sufficient results. I really don't see how it could get much worse. Versus 1A opponents, we are averaging 11.75 points/game.
 
T

Todd4State

Redshirt
Mar 3, 2008
17,411
1
0
Off week question....Post your "percentage of the problem" for our offense:

Columbus Dawg said:
Really? A different scheme would make that much of a difference. What scheme do you propose? The strength of this team and, I use the term strength
loosely, still has to be pounding the ball.</p>
Click to expand...

I don't think we should try to pound the ball. I think we would do a lot better with 4-5 WR sets and trying to get long plays on short passes. Use McRae, Robinson, Smith and Bell and get them the ball. I'd use Pegues as a slot WR/RB.

Because Dixon is a great talent, I would try to work him in occasionally on runs up the middle, which hopefully because we'll be spreading the ball out, there won't be 8 men in the box.

I still would bench Saulsberry and go with Gates/Jenkins at RT.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom