I think this is part of the story for them also. And, compounding this, they are a program that has had former glory. They remember when they were nationally relevant. It was a long time ago, and we remind them that it's not likely happening again.
OFFICIAL NET Thread - 2022/23
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The NET is just as broken as last year but this year it’s helping us so I won’t complain lol. Jumping from 39 to 27 because of a blowout win over a crappy team just makes no sense but we’ll take it for sure.
I posted this in the game thread but this might be why you saw starters in the game so late. People were posting winning by more then 30 would help more in NET
I doubt Pike likes playing this “game,” but after constantly finding ourselves on the bubble, plus the OSU bad beat, he isn’t calling of the dogs like he would do in years past. Of course he will never admit either
I doubt Pike likes playing this “game,” but after constantly finding ourselves on the bubble, plus the OSU bad beat, he isn’t calling of the dogs like he would do in years past. Of course he will never admit either
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There are still 18 conference games for most schools to play across the country
Don't fall in love with these ratings quite yet
Don't fall in love with these ratings quite yet
Computers love us this year
22 in kenpom
20 in bartovok
With favorable computer rankings …Thinking we Need to get to 14-8 in the big ten play to get a 6 seed …(21-12 overall) and out of the 7/10 and 8/9 where it’s harder to get to the sweet 16
Long way to go…but liking how we are playing . The identity we want we are starting to excecufe at a high level
22 in kenpom
20 in bartovok
With favorable computer rankings …Thinking we Need to get to 14-8 in the big ten play to get a 6 seed …(21-12 overall) and out of the 7/10 and 8/9 where it’s harder to get to the sweet 16
Long way to go…but liking how we are playing . The identity we want we are starting to excecufe at a high level
Albany to MSG? Dare to dream
That's their own damn fault for not handling their own in house business.
Defense and margin of victory matter.
Most teams we play are held to 20 points below their average.
less traps for us in conference play aside from minnesota, a lot more opportunities than risks
ACC is also weighted down by the anchor of Louisville, but even if you exclude Louisville they'd still only climb up to 6th.
Once conference play begins in January NET will reset quite a bit, and Tempoe will no longer be a Q4 loss. UMASS Lowell also resets and this will likely be a Q4 win
still, beating up on cupcakes helps a lot
still, beating up on cupcakes helps a lot
Our ranking right now reminds me of Iowa's last year. They had a super strong NET but didn't really have a true tournament resume until February.
Yep..its nice that we are in the position we are in but at the end of the day we have just one win vs the likely field,no road wins and one pretty bad loss
Need to build the resume
And if we don't do it, we'll have no excuses for not getting in. It's a good position to be in and should lead to less controversy and hand wringing when compared to last year.
lowell won’t fall to Q4 if they finish near the top of their conference as projected
That would be nice but we still have many games left and we must take care of business and only take one game at a time.
Had wanted to update this yesterday, but had no power.
RU is now #27
Results:
Q1 (1-30 Home, 1-50 Neutral, 1-75 Away)
14 - @Ohio St (L*)
21 - Indiana (W)
48 - @Miami (L)
Q2 (31-75 Home 51-100 Neutral, 76-135 Away)
Q3 (76-160 Home, 101-200 Neutral, 136-240 Away)
79 - UMass-Lowell (W)
88 - Wake Forest (W)
91 - Seton Hall (L)
Q4 (161+ Home, 201+Neutral, 141+ Away)
209 - (N) Temple (L)
239 - Rider (W)
244 - Bucknell (W)
317 - Sacred Heart (W)
340 - Columbia (W)
343 - Central CT St (W)
Upcoming
Q1 (1-30 Home, 1-50 Neutral, 1-75 Away)
4 - @Purdue
14 - Ohio St
21 - @Indiana
22 - Maryland
39 - @Northwestern
43 - @Illinois
49 - @Penn St
50 - @Wisconsin
57 - @Iowa
68 - @MSU
Q2 (31-75 Home 51-100 Neutral, 76-135 Away)
39 - Northwestern
49 - Penn St
57 - Iowa
68 - (N)MSU
Q3 (76-160 Home, 101-200 Neutral, 136-240 Away)
76 - Nebraska
80 - Michigan
Q4 (161+ Home, 201+Neutral, 241+ Away)
256 - Coppin St
248 - Minnesota
248 - @Minnesota
Notes:
- Nebraska and Michigan knocking on the door of Q2
- Really going to need to get some of these road games to accumulate some Q1 wins. I really don't think any of them are out of reach.
- Minnesota is really bad, but hardly the worst power conference team - they are ahead of 272 South Carolina (SEC), 319 California (P12), and 344 Louisville (ACC),
RU is now #27
Results:
Q1 (1-30 Home, 1-50 Neutral, 1-75 Away)
14 - @Ohio St (L*)
21 - Indiana (W)
48 - @Miami (L)
Q2 (31-75 Home 51-100 Neutral, 76-135 Away)
Q3 (76-160 Home, 101-200 Neutral, 136-240 Away)
79 - UMass-Lowell (W)
88 - Wake Forest (W)
91 - Seton Hall (L)
Q4 (161+ Home, 201+Neutral, 141+ Away)
209 - (N) Temple (L)
239 - Rider (W)
244 - Bucknell (W)
317 - Sacred Heart (W)
340 - Columbia (W)
343 - Central CT St (W)
Upcoming
Q1 (1-30 Home, 1-50 Neutral, 1-75 Away)
4 - @Purdue
14 - Ohio St
21 - @Indiana
22 - Maryland
39 - @Northwestern
43 - @Illinois
49 - @Penn St
50 - @Wisconsin
57 - @Iowa
68 - @MSU
Q2 (31-75 Home 51-100 Neutral, 76-135 Away)
39 - Northwestern
49 - Penn St
57 - Iowa
68 - (N)MSU
Q3 (76-160 Home, 101-200 Neutral, 136-240 Away)
76 - Nebraska
80 - Michigan
Q4 (161+ Home, 201+Neutral, 241+ Away)
256 - Coppin St
248 - Minnesota
248 - @Minnesota
Notes:
- Nebraska and Michigan knocking on the door of Q2
- Really going to need to get some of these road games to accumulate some Q1 wins. I really don't think any of them are out of reach.
- Minnesota is really bad, but hardly the worst power conference team - they are ahead of 272 South Carolina (SEC), 319 California (P12), and 344 Louisville (ACC),
We’ve played pretty well in the true road games so far even though the record doesn’t reflect this.
What’s interesting is that while offense certainly isn’t a “strength”, we’d probably be undefeated just by resolving the turnover situation (even with our otherwise poor scoring efficiency). We couldn’t put the ball in the hoop vs. SHU yet if we clean up those 19 turnovers it doesn’t even matter. We still lost at the dang buzzer.
What’s interesting is that while offense certainly isn’t a “strength”, we’d probably be undefeated just by resolving the turnover situation (even with our otherwise poor scoring efficiency). We couldn’t put the ball in the hoop vs. SHU yet if we clean up those 19 turnovers it doesn’t even matter. We still lost at the dang buzzer.
Damn, I just assumed that there were no games since it was Xmas. My bad.
At first I was thinking it was a tough break only getting 3 games instead of 4 against Nebraska and Minnesota. But since only one of those games is on the road, our chances of avoiding another Q4 loss is better. Those are really the only must win games. We go one game below .500 or better against the rest of the schedule and we are a lock for the tournament.
In other words, if we go 11-9 in conference and 3-0 in those games, we're in great shape. But we may need to be 12-8 in league if we lose one of those games but still want to be confident.
In other words, if we go 11-9 in conference and 3-0 in those games, we're in great shape. But we may need to be 12-8 in league if we lose one of those games but still want to be confident.
Assuming we beat Coppin State, we will be 9-4 (8-3 OOC, 1-1 B1G) heading into the final 18 Big Ten games.
You’re probably right that 11-9 overall (10-8 over the final 18 games) gets us in fairly comfortably, as most of those 18 games will be Quad 1 and 2 games. Of course, we will need to show that we can win some games on the road, and we CANNOT, MUST NOT stub our toe against Quad 3 or 4 Minnesota.
But, like Shack has been saying, we need to try and avoid the 8-9 seeds, and preferably avoid the 7 and 10 seeds too, if we want a better chance of advancing to the Sweet 16.
To get a 6 seed or better, we will need to go at least 12-8 or 13-7 in league for an overall record of 20-11 or 21-10 heading into the Big Ten tournament, and then win at least one game there to finish up 21-12 or 22-11.
I know, getting way ahead of myself here. Beat Coppin State!!
There’s maybe 5 teams in the country we cannot beat. Just get in the dance and let things play out.
If the offense gets hot, they can beat anyone on any night. The defense is that good
To be a 6 seed, that means you're top 24 in the country. While it would be great, it may be tough to pull off even if we play well. 13-7 would probably get it done.
NET holds at 29 even with the Seton Hall's 14 point loss to Marquette who moved right behind us at 30. SHU is now 95.
Up to #28 today, passing Auburn.
Temple jumps to 190 after winning at East Carolina.
Temple jumps to 190 after winning at East Carolina.
The Owls get up off the mat and back to a Q3 loss. Hopefully they get Reynolds back closer to 6 weeks than 8 weeks and can finish the year strong through February into March.
Rider has to be the best 4-6 team in the country. Lost another close one at Georgia yesterday by 6.
We don’t really know all the details of the NET formula do we? Maybe First half efficiency matters somehow? Was a 2 point game at halftime.
Iowa (58) going to drop after a 16 point loss to Nebraska (78). That will pull Nebraska into Q2, at least for the time being.
Michigan (81) loses by 2 at home to Central Mich (292) and are going to drop like a stone, almost certainly into triple digits.
Michigan (81) loses by 2 at home to Central Mich (292) and are going to drop like a stone, almost certainly into triple digits.