UMass-Lowell squeaks by @NJIT by 3pts after being down 9 with 3:40 left.
OFFICIAL NET Thread - 2022/23
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Villanova fails to score in the final 3:40 and falls at home to Marquette by two points. Just missed giving us a little help against a team right near us in the net.
I can accept this result since it's Nova.
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Rutgers up to #19 in KenPom after 89 of 115 games today. We are the 4th highest ranked B1G team, right behind #18 Indiana.
Up one spot to 21 today in the NET.
Would be nice if Temple (183) could beat Cincy (94) at home today. As long as Temple winds up in the 101-200 range that loss will 'only' be Q3.
Would be nice if Temple (183) could beat Cincy (94) at home today. As long as Temple winds up in the 101-200 range that loss will 'only' be Q3.
RU had no biz losing to SHU at home.
RU also legitimately beat Ohio st
If Paul and Caleb played against the Shirley’s ru would have won.
How is it possible that CC didn’t move a single spot in the NET with a 22 point win over a 6-6 team? You’d think the bar for movement down in the 300s wouldn’t be that high. Odd
Ok, so Columbia barely moved, lol
We don't get numerical scores for each team, but it shows just how far behind the bottom teams are from the pack.
Columbia knocked off #36 Yale and only rose 13 spots from 344 to 331..... while Yale dropped 25 spots from 36 to 61.
Meanwhile, #2 UConn lost to #26 Xavier..... and remained #2, while Xavier moved up to #20. It shows just how far ahead of #3 Tennessee they were before the loss... and how far away the topmost teams are from the pack, too.
We don't get numerical scores for each team, but it shows just how far behind the bottom teams are from the pack.
Columbia knocked off #36 Yale and only rose 13 spots from 344 to 331..... while Yale dropped 25 spots from 36 to 61.
Meanwhile, #2 UConn lost to #26 Xavier..... and remained #2, while Xavier moved up to #20. It shows just how far ahead of #3 Tennessee they were before the loss... and how far away the topmost teams are from the pack, too.
Again, shows how far behind the bottommost schools are. St. Francis Brooklyn dropped from 321 to 340, but Central CT didn't budge off of 346. Knocking of #36 only gets you from 344 to 331.
In other news, Seton Hall jumps up from 91 to 83, and Wake only inches up from 84 to 81. I think we're getting to the point where individual games are going to start making less and less of a difference in overall ranking.
That’s what I don’t get. You’d think one good win would separate you from the pack. There are teams ahead of CC that haven’t won yet.
Just like with the Lafayette loss last year
Some of these schools have large anchors that are not removed by good wins
The one point win at home over terrible Appy State killing Wake
Efficiency is playing too great a role in the rankings. Above all win percentage needs to play a bigger role and sos..this year that would move RU down about 30 spots
Some of these schools have large anchors that are not removed by good wins
The one point win at home over terrible Appy State killing Wake
Efficiency is playing too great a role in the rankings. Above all win percentage needs to play a bigger role and sos..this year that would move RU down about 30 spots
The challenge is we don't get to see the to-the-decimal values that go into the rankings. There may have been a wide gulf between 346 and 345 that CCSU nearly closed without moving up (just like there was clearly a wide gulf between #2 UConn and #3 Tennessee which likely shrunk quite a bit yesterday after UConn's loss).
Kenpom shows us more of that detail. For example, the difference between 336 Columbia and 337 Albany is 0.66.... so Albany could go up 0.65 and still remain 337. But if Columbia moved up 0.65, they'd have jumped from 336 to 330. At the other end, the gap between #1 Houston and #2 UConn right now is 2.28.... so Houston could drop by 2.27 and still remain #1.... but if Duke dropped by that much, they'd go from #15 to #28.
And NET doesn't just measure wins. Close, efficient road losses to good teams are worth more than sloppy home blowouts of terrible teams.
But yet - UMass Lowell survives a terrible NJIT team and only moves back a few slots in the 80s. Is that just because it was a road game?
In the 300s that other stuff is a pile of junk though as it’s mostly garbage time action.
In games between 300s teams, it's pretty much garbage time action from the opening tip. Beating another 300s team isn't going to do much for your resume. I mean, technically someone has to come away with the win... but how much is that win really worth?
There are 63 teams ranked in the 300s. What gives? If 346 blows out 321 by 22, why doesn’t that matter relative to the team sitting at 345? No team ranked 316-363 has more than 4 wins. So any win period should move the relative needle, no?
Eastern Illinois holds a “prize” win, but few others do. So that’s not the explanation.
Again, it's not just wins.
If you are a team ranked 320+ you have just terrible metrics compared to the field. Even if your offensive efficiency is decent in a game against another 320+ team, if it's not a lot better than their terrible defensive efficiency... you aren't moving the needle. And vice versa. You need to annihilate that team just to tread water.
And it's possible that your metrics are bad because you've played better teams. Two equally poor sets of efficiency metrics look much different in the model if they were achieved against entirely different levels of competition.
Look at the team ranked just ahead of CCSU at 345, Hampton. They've played 6 games against Q1/Q2, while CCSU has played just 2. Losses to better teams help you more than losses to worse teams.
I suppose. But it really shouldn’t be that way because it’s splitting hairs unless you were competitive against the better teams, which Hampton wasn’t.
In fairness to CC, they’ve been competitive in most of their games. Single digit losses in 8 of 13 (and another loss by 11). Besides us, the only other +20 margin loss was to UMass and that one was very close at halftime. SJU was also a close one at halftime and they ended up losing by 17.
Temple wins 70-61 over Cincinnati. Another good win for our NET!
We jumped Xavier for top-20, who just beat UConn. For the poster who said we are not in the same stratosphere as UConn.
Michigan's NET is a rollercoaster this week
Right now, we're #10 in the SRS, Simple Rating System, on Sports Reference, Purdue is #12, Ohio St #8. We are in good company on this list.