Official PSU - NW '25 Game thread

[Psu00]

Penn State becomes first FBS team in last 30 years to lose consecutive games as at least a 20-point favorite

Penn State lost for the second consecutive week as a favorite of at least 20 points

www.cbssports.com

Wow. Franklin’s really putting up impressive stats recently.

-First top ten team to lose to a 0-4 team in 40 years.

-First FBS team in 30 years to lose as back to back 20point favorites.

 

[CoolBean]

Well, at least I wont have to stay up late watching this **** show for the next 3 weekends while traveling to Asia..

 

[84lion]

No. No more OSU retreads.

Well, think of him as a Florida retread.

 

[Nits1989]

Wow. Franklin’s really putting up impressive stats recently.

-First top ten team to lose to a 0-4 team in 40 years.

-First FBS team in 30 years to lose as back to back 20point favorites.

What really stands out is how he was loving all the attention before the season and the Oregon game. He really wanted the attention. He said they welcomed the pressure. He was so large and in charge. It makes all of this worse because he did his big talking before he delivered. He looks bad.

 

[bdgan]

You'd have to have a good tight end.

We have a couple of 4* TEs, one who showed a lot of promise in limited action last year.

 

[Psu00]

I'm all in on Urban Meyer.

Honestly, I think that’s the only way to stop the bleeding now. If you want to save recruits and watch the portal light up some to turn it around- it would be to put Urban in charge. He brings immediate attention and gravitas. Hiring an unknown right now will do nothing to stop the bleeding. Keeping Franklin will be a disaster in terms of losing recruits and players portalling out.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Bwifan]

Again I've said nothing negative about him other than he had yet to win a big game. Never once said or implied he wasn't good.

All I said, no major program is bringing in someone who will be 65 and has never coached an elite program. It won't happen.

He coached for Saban at Alabama and won a natty. He beat Oregon at Oregon. He took JMU to the national championship game probably would have won it the next year if not for covid. He probably will have Indiana in the top 5 but yet he is not elite in your eyes...

 

[PSUwolf]

Honestly, I think that’s the only way to stop the bleeding now. If you want to save recruits and watch the portal light up some to turn it around- it would be to put Urban in charge. He brings immediate attention and gravitas. Hiring an unknown right now will do nothing to stop the bleeding. Keeping Franklin will be a disaster in terms of losing recruits and players portalling out.

Urban has said on multiple occasions that he's done coaching. Keep in mind that he turned down Texas and MEGA money just a few years back.......and that Texas recruiting area has maybe the top HS football in the country. Do people really believe that Urban would come to PSU after turning all of that down

 

[KingLando]

He coached for Saban at Alabama and won a natty. He beat Oregon at Oregon. He took JMU to the national championship game probably would have won it the next year if not for covid. He probably will have Indiana in the top 5 but yet he is not elite in your eyes...

I know his background--probably way better than you.
He did beat Oregon--his first big win at Indiana--happy for him
He lost games he should have won at JMU in the playoffs--that's not debatable. You have no clue if he would have won if not for COVID.
Find where I said he wasn't a great coach. The only current elite coach is Smart.
Acknowledging his age and that no major problem is going to start a regime with a 65 year old isn't a criticism. It's reality

 

[Calabrin]

Very true. At this point, keeping Franklin is going to tank recruiting and put the program back by years.

I get the buyout is ridiculous (thanks again Sandy) but they’re at a crucial crossroads now. If PSU got back on the winning path they’d clearly run out the clock with Franklin for a few more years but now they’re looking at a minimum of 5 losses (likely more).

Watch the decommits pile up this week. At this point, the program is in a complete free fall death spiral.

I said last week they were staring directly into the reality of a 7-5 season.

After today, it's more likely 5-7, possibly worse.

Which remaining games do you feel confident about?
Ohio State is a guaranteed loss.
Indiana is a guaranteed loss.
They're not beating Nebraska.

So, right there, you've got 6 losses.

They maybe beat Rutgers, Michigan State?

Iowa's a coin toss, at best.

 

[Nits1989]

Post game show said Penn State has no heart

 

[Psu00]

Urban has said on multiple occasions that he's done coaching. Keep in mind that he turned down Texas and MEGA money just a few years back.......and that Texas recruiting area has maybe the top HS football in the country. Do people really believe that Urban would come to PSU after turning all of that down

Things change over time. I think you have to at least make the call. If he says no then so be it.

 

[PSUwolf]

I said last week they were staring directly into the reality of a 7-5 season.

After today, it's more likely 5-7, possibly worse.

Which remaining games do you feel confident about?
Ohio State is a guaranteed loss.
Indiana is a guaranteed loss.
They're not beating Nebraska.

So, right there, you've got 6 losses.

They maybe beat Rutgers, Michigan State?

Iowa's a coin toss, at best.

Pretty sad situation

 

[Psu00]

Delete

 

[KingLando]

I said last week they were staring directly into the reality of a 7-5 season.

After today, it's more likely 5-7, possibly worse.

Which remaining games do you feel confident about?
Ohio State is a guaranteed loss.
Indiana is a guaranteed loss.
They're not beating Nebraska.

So, right there, you've got 6 losses.

They maybe beat Rutgers, Michigan State?

Iowa's a coin toss, at best.

Wait...how is Nebraska a guaranteed loss
We might lose out but Nebraska isn't good either.

 

[bdgan]

This game makes me question if Coach James Franklin lost control of the team. It sure seems that way to me. No one can doubt the talent on that Penn State sideline, but what you can doubt is the preparation and a lack of urgency.

PSU had concerns at DT and LB. Campbell was a big pickup at LB but Rojas got injured. Now it's Campbell and former walk on Deluca. Our $3 million defensive coordinator likes to play a 4-2-5 scheme but IMO we need two good DTs for that to work. Opponents send a guy in motion wide and Deluca follows leaving just Campbell. We're getting killed on runs up the gut and on quick passes over the middle.

I understand that he has a preferred style but at some point you have to adapt to your talent and what the opponent is doing. Speca is a sophomore but was a 4* consensus LB with offers from Michigan, OSU, ND, Tennessee, and A&M. Wylie was injured last year but he's a Jr with offers from Michigan, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and A&M. How bad can the defense be that these kids aren't seeing the field. Our 2 guys are gassed by the end of the game.

 

[bdgan]

Wow. Franklin’s really putting up impressive stats recently.

-First top ten team to lose to a 0-4 team in 40 years.

-First FBS team in 30 years to lose as back to back 20point favorites.

I'm listening to the post game from Indy vs Oregon. They flat out said PSU has far more talent than teams like UCLA & Northwestern but they have no heart.

 

[PSUwolf]

I'm listening to the post game from Indy vs Oregon. They flat out said PSU has far more talent than teams like UCLA & Northwestern but they have no heart.

Pretty easy to figure out and it starts with their dipshit HC

 

[Psu00]

I'm listening to the post game from Indy vs Oregon. They flat out said PSU has far more talent than teams like UCLA & Northwestern but they have no heart.

That all comes from the coaching staff IMO. No fire. No accountability. It’s the ‘it all starts with love and ends with love’ attitude. Like playing Singleton on the last series of the game with the game on the line because it was his turn to get a series. So the best running back wasn’t on the field because it’s an ‘everyone gets a trophy’ approach.

 

[MacNit]

Urban has said on multiple occasions that he's done coaching. Keep in mind that he turned down Texas and MEGA money just a few years back.......and that Texas recruiting area has maybe the top HS football in the country. Do people really believe that Urban would come to PSU after turning all of that down

The call must be made.

 

[MacNit]

Wait...how is Nebraska a guaranteed loss
We might lose out but Nebraska isn't good either.

Rhule!

 

[Bwifan]

Bottom line is as Jimmy Johnson said ... It's about the Jimmy and Joe's not the X's and O's ... PSU does not have top talent right now. The reason Knowles scheme worked at OSU was the talent. Simple as that... Most schemes and coaches can win with that talent

 

[Catch1lion]

Bottom line is as Jimmy Johnson said ... It's about the Jimmy and Joe's not the X's and O's ... PSU does not have top talent right now. The reason Knowles scheme worked at OSU was the talent. Simple as that... Most schemes and coaches can win with that talent

I bet he wasn’t dropping that line when he was negotiating his contract with Jerry Jones

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[84lion]

Urban has said on multiple occasions that he's done coaching. Keep in mind that he turned down Texas and MEGA money just a few years back.......and that Texas recruiting area has maybe the top HS football in the country. Do people really believe that Urban would come to PSU after turning all of that down

I believe it was a "confirmed Urban (no pun intended) legend" that Meyer was going to take over for Joe.

 

[Nothing Special]

Things change over time. I think you have to at least make the call. If he says no then so be it.

Make him say NO. He has to want to finish up on a higher note than Jacksonville.

 

[Psu00]

Make him say NO. He has to want to finish up on a higher note than Jacksonville.

Exactly. You literally have nothing to lose in asking.

 

[PAgeologist]

It’s comical seeing Allar “rack up” another set of below average stats (he’s made a career of it) yet be defended as if he’s really Peyton Manning saddled with a supporting cast and coaching staff that are a combination of F Troop and the Three Stooges. The coaches and the teammates may be lousy and deserving of those monikers, but Allar is a combination of Corporal Agarn and Shemp. Yes, I’m old — Google the references if necessary. Translation: The coaches and the OL and receivers may not be good, but neither is Allar.

Please DO NOT EVER insult the 3 Stooges and F Troop like that again.

 

[SleepyLion]

The Wildcats have awaken a sleeping Lion.

I've been here all along.

 

[PAgeologist]

They just seem at times to be unprepared, undisciplined, and unmotivated.

Only on Saturdays.

 

[PAgeologist]

I'm all in on Urban Meyer.

If nothing else, hire Urban or Saban as a consultant to help find the next them.

 

[PAgeologist]

Things change over time. I think you have to at least make the call. If he says no then so be it.

I agree. Kraft wouldnt be doing his job if he didnt. But i dont believe Urban will coach again. Maybe Urban would have taken over for Joe. But not now.

 

[NoSoup4U]

Are you Pat Kraft or a big donor with insider info? You speak so definitively. Very aggressive.

well that didnt age well did it now who just beat Oregon at Oregon?

 

[Nits1989]

well that didnt age well did it now who just beat Oregon at Oregon?

The King can never be wrong. I think he’s a teenager.

 

[NoSoup4U]

Not related to Allar--simply comprehend what is happening--try it

Quit being a clown.. Allar has a 2 CENT HEAD and cant process worth a damn everyone sees it regardless of what slop AK puts in there ... Good QB's find a way period to get it done considering they are the ones on the field doesn't he not have the sense to check out of the play call or doesnt AK allow him to do that? if thats the case why?? if Allar is sooooooo good?

 

[KingLando]

Quit being a clown.. Allar has a 2 CENT HEAD and cant process worth a damn everyone sees it regardless of what slop AK puts in there ... Good QB's find a way period to get it done considering they are the ones on the field doesn't he not have the sense to check out of the play call or doesnt AK allow him to do that? if thats the case why?? if Allar is sooooooo good?

This was good lol
He killed multiple plays today getting us in a better situation but you'd have to pay attention to know that.

 

[NoSoup4U]

Why is it the NW D can be so aggressive and fill holes, solid tackling, stopping big downs with big hits yet the PSU D looks half hearted and running through the motions? Runners and receivers going big yards each play.

When was the last time a PSU D came up with a big stop big hit like just happened?

Because psu guys are getting paid!!! NW guys are getting an education

 

[NoSoup4U]

This was good lol
He killed multiple plays today getting us in a better situation but you'd have to pay attention to know that.

was at the game cochise so yeah watched the disgrace in person what better situation?? NW owned us all day there was no better situation ever to be had, that 2nd and 1 pick in the endzone after a blcoked punt?? Better situation huh? a good QB throws it away and lives for 3rd and 1--- I suspect you are the one not watching you know head in sand everytime he drops back--- his reads and progressions are just awful-- But I guess you will just tell us Allar is playing 3d chess all of a sudden?? ....Glad you want to die on that hill kudos to you for it , but you have proven nothing about the skills of Allar, get back to us when Allar is maybe taken in the 5th round and tell us how great he his one more time

 

[KingLando]

was at the game cochise so yeah watched the disgrace in person what better situation?? NW owned us all day there was no better situation ever to be had, that 2nd and 1 pick in the endzone after a blcoked punt?? Better situation huh? a good QB throws it away and lives for 3rd and 1--- I suspect you are the one not watching you know head in sand everytime he drops back--- his reads and progressions are just awful-- But I guess you will just tell us Allar is playing 3d chess all of a sudden?? ....Glad you want to die on that hill kudos to you for it , but you have proven nothing about the skills of Allar, get back to us when Allar is maybe taken in the 5th round and tell us how great he his one more time

The pick in the end one was a bad decision especially with the receiver being Clifford. Again, all QBs make motakrd.

His progressions aren't bad at all...on the rare occasion we actually provide time.

Who cares what round he's in? He made a mistake in returning to a staff unable to coach pocket passers and that's on him. The fact you still think the issue is Allar is proof you're the one determined to die on the hill.

And maybe stop wasting money and time going to games.