Officials meet--both still expected to leave--Texas looking at other leagues

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Big 12 is done. No need to linger on the traitors.

This is why you don't cheer for your conference mates. They're not looking out for you.
 

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Big 12 is done. No need to linger on the traitors.

This is why you don't cheer for your conference mates. They're not looking out for you.
Exactly. Never could understand cheering on the enemies that will stab you in the back at a moment's notice.
 

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Big 12 executive committee meets with Texas, Oklahoma presidents amid talk of departure to SEC​


Obviously another ESPN engineered move--Texas is going to look around at other leagues too.

Sir gently and respectfully I’ve stated that on here multiple times. Literally a couple of years ago. I was told Texas came to ACC looking for a N.D. Type of deal a few years ago. Like the BigTen turning ND away the ACC turned Texas away. This has been going on for years. The only difference now is Texas appears to be hooked up with Oklahoma and the LHN appears to be dead.
 

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With remaining schools in Big XII in slight panic mode, it will be interesting to watch the next steps. What will happen first, expansion or other teams bolting? I'm guessing the latter would be in the best interest of many, for both competitive and financial interests. Thinking Kansas, WVU, and Oklahoma State will find homes, but have to be concerned about the others. Bringing in 2-4 more teams likely wouldn't move the needle much, especially if all are current G5 members.
 

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They do not fit in Big 10. But then again WVU never fit in Big 12. It's all a crap shoot and like I said I don't care what happens to them.
 

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They do not fit in Big 10. But then again WVU never fit in Big 12. It's all a crap shoot and like I said I don't care what happens to them.
Maybe the B1G will go bat **** crazy, and expand to 20, taking in WVU, Cuse, Pitt, Va Tech, Kansas, and Oklahoma State. Trade Iowa State for Rutgers, and let them play in the MAC where they might win a couple football games per year.
 

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BIG 10 and SEC expanding to 20 each would not surprise me and locking all others out.
Lots more money for FOX to spend if Big XII folds, and it appears imminent. I'm almost hoping B1G doesn't do anything, which could potentially save the status quo for the other conferences. If SEC wants to do their own thing, F 'em. I'll still watch the others play.
 

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Sir gently and respectfully I’ve stated that on here multiple times. Literally a couple of years ago. I was told Texas came to ACC looking for a N.D. Type of deal a few years ago. Like the BigTen turning ND away the ACC turned Texas away. This has been going on for years. The only difference now is Texas appears to be hooked up with Oklahoma and the LHN appears to be dead.
Considering ESPN lost 50 million dollars on that deal they more than glad that this will be gone. They will recover that money and then some by getting rid of that trash fire.
 

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Considering ESPN lost 50 million dollars on that deal they more than glad that this will be gone. They will recover that money and then some by getting rid of that trash fire.

Yep ESPN got crushed with that deal. Proof of two things. UT is regional and ESPN isn’t bending over for them anymore. My guy in NY told me the numbers being tossed around on a new Big12 deal was 20%-30% less. Of course it was reported that there was a pause in negotiations but that wasn’t the case. The numbers were so bad that this is the outcome.
 

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Yep ESPN got crushed with that deal. Proof of two things. UT is regional and ESPN isn’t bending over for them anymore. My guy in NY told me the numbers being tossed around on a new Big12 deal was 20%-30% less. Of course it was reported that there was a pause in negotiations but that wasn’t the case. The numbers were so bad that this is the outcome.
Basically even if Texas stayed it kills Big 12 negotiations. Is there any wonder that they need Oklahoma to move them to the SEC.
 

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Man I hope not. Not sure Pitt or WVU survive that outcome.
Yeah I know. But that I'm afraid is what may just be the final stage. 32 or maybe 40 teams. Can't remember the guys name but back in 2010 he was talking on sports radio that eventually these mergers, as he called them, would begin to cut and dwindle teams away from the market leaving only the rich. The cut off would be anywhere from 24 to 40 teams and they form their own division and hire a commissioner thus breaking away from NCAA.
 

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It wouldn’t surprise me that NotreDame doesn’t move to the better geographical fit and be back room planning with the Big Ten.

I get what you’re saying and don’t disagree but ND has always looked at themselves as a National brand not Regional and outside of Michigan, Michigan State and Northwestern not sure BigTen would satisfy alumni around NE, SE and west.
 

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But when the dust settles, the ACC will not be able to match conference TV media sharing dollars of the SEC (which they would not be able to match up with). I would think that they will want to go into the Big 10, but to be opposite Ohio State and Michigan so they have a better chance to make the Conference title game. Unless they (SEC) pull Ohio State and Michigan out then that will be a close second for TV money. The ACC (unless the SEC steals Clemson and Florida State) will be a distant third.

I don’t know how much longer they can avoid being a conference member.
 

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None of the ACC schools including ND are going to another conference. As part of the launch of the ACC Network in 2019 all 15 schools signed a grant of media rights from 2019 through 2036. That effectively locks all in place for the foreseeable future.

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/...year-rights-deal-lead-2019-launch-acc-network
You know contracts can be broken by negotiations and lawyers right? It's been done before and it is gonna happen with UT/OU with the Big12
 

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You know contracts can be broken by negotiations and lawyers right? It's been done before and it is gonna happen with UT/OU with the Big12
Not really. By that logic, why couldn't the Big 12, ACC, or Pac 12 break their TV contracts and go to another network for a better deal? The answer is that you can't just break a contract on terms favorable to you.
 

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But when the dust settles, the ACC will not be able to match conference TV media sharing dollars of the SEC (which they would not be able to match up with). I would think that they will want to go into the Big 10, but to be opposite Ohio State and Michigan so they have a better chance to make the Conference title game. Unless they (SEC) pull Ohio State and Michigan out then that will be a close second for TV money. The ACC (unless the SEC steals Clemson and Florida State) will be a distant third.

I don’t know how much longer they can avoid being a conference member.


ACC at this point needs to partner up with Big12, BigTen or PAC12 to stay viable long term IMO.
 

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Not really. By that logic, why couldn't the Big 12, ACC, or Pac 12 break their TV contracts and go to another network for a better deal? The answer is that you can't just break a contract on terms favorable to you.
Never said it would be "favorable" in the break itself, but leaving would be in the long run
 

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WVU fits in the BIG



Adam Rittenberg
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Heard today from several people that B1G only would be interested in adding schools from the AAU (Nebraska no longer, but was when it joined league). Texas is AAU member, along with Pac-12 schools like Cal, Washington, Colorado, USC, UCLA, Oregon, Stanford. Oklahoma is not AAU.




Adam Rittenberg
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Notre Dame obviously would be an exception.




Gene Smith Retweeted--he is Ohio State's AD in case someone didn't knwo




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The Big Ten is making a ridiculous amount of money already. They will go into a new TV deal in 2023. You look at the cash coming in, you have to ask will adding a team help the bottom line? I can't see a Kansas, West Virginia type adding that much value.
https://twitter.com/jbook37/status/1419034615721906177/photo/1



 

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You know contracts can be broken by negotiations and lawyers right? It's been done before and it is gonna happen with UT/OU with the Big12
Sure, but the Big 12 has 3 to 4 years left on GOR agreement versus 17 years left on the ACC agreement. The amount of money in play with ACC GOR is apples and oranges to the Big 12.
 

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We'll see what the deal with GORs is soon. I don't think OU or UT are wanting to wait 4 years to move and be lame ducks during that time.