The IHSA needs to act very quickly on this. And by quickly I mean the end of the night or Tomorrow morning
OFFICIALS!
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The IHSA needs to act very quickly on this. And by quickly I mean the end of the night or Tomorrow morning
Why not just add another game for next week....
I'd like to see Fenwick vs Palatine. We just call it the suburban version city private/public league game. Why not??
Wassup
I'd like to see Fenwick vs Palatine. We just call it the suburban version city private/public league game. Why not??
Wassup
That there's no precedent for dealing with this kind of thing doesn't mean that the IHSA can't create a precedent now. I don't think that it would open Pandora's box. It would just state a precedent saying that for all games, if time has expired and there's an intentional grounding call, and that call wrongly awards the other team with an additional play such that that additional play changes the outcome of the game, then that additional play shouldn't be counted and the result that would have held otherwise DOES in fact hold. So Fenwick wins and plays next week.
I'm sure there is an appeal process but it would have to be done very quickly.
The IHSA has no problem reviewing other aspects of completed games (i.e. Doling out suspensions to players that were not suspended during the actual game) but that is a far cry from reversing the results of a game. Apparently they are willing to do it if a player is ruled ineligible to play - basketball example provided by a poster. So it is theoretically possible....
Definitely. Would it require a tremendous amount of resources or something for the IHSA to reverse this? I don't see why on earth the IHSA would allow PN and not Fenwick to play next week.
Said this in the other thread, but
heres what happened in basketball. Though this would be huge considerings it for the 7a football state title.
http://www.mywebtimes.com/sports/br...cle_fb406a45-cc11-5236-867f-22ec777ae52a.html
With social media and live streaming, the pressure is on the IHSA here to make a ruling.
Shows a precident of changing the outcome of a contest. Question is - they seem willing to do it for rules violations... are they willing to do it for rule implementeion error?
1972 Munich Olympics. I was stationed in Germany at the time, so I followed the Games pretty close. Mark Spitz's performance was the high point ; this basketball game - the low point - as far as the U.S. Olympic team was concerned. Doug Collins (ISU) was on that U.S. team by the way. The silver medals are still sitting in a bank vault in Munich the last I heard. The U.S. team refused to accept the result of the game. A detailed Wikipedia article on this game (1972 Olympic Men's Basketball Final) gives a very detailed discussion of the reason for the controversy.
IHSA has admitted they were wrong, they "feel terrible" but by-laws does not allow them to overturn an officials call. So Fenwick is done. Sickening lack of responsibility.
They are following their stated by laws.
Are they supposed to break their by laws? What's the point of having them then?
Why on earth would you have a law stating that “the decisions of game officials shall be final; protests against the decision of a game official shall not be reviewed by the Board of Directors"????
That law by its very nature rules out the possibility of correcting horrible situations such as this one. Apparently the IHSA doesn't value justice so much.
That law by its very nature rules out the possibility of correcting horrible situations such as this one. Apparently the IHSA doesn't value justice so much.
Well, yes. If laws weren't subject to be changed then **** I'd still be able to beat my wife in public if she spoke out against me so that I could uphold the reputation of myself and family (I'm referring to a string of legal precedent that dates back to 1832ish made by the courts in North Carolina). Edit: just because laws can be revised or eliminated all together doesn't mean that there is or was no point in having them.
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