Oil prices fall on further rise in US drilling, signs of slowing demand

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Yes we have a lobby but it's to make sure that congress doesn't make laws that hurts our profession like having us put solar panels on our roofs.[roll] We do not get anything other than depreciation of equipment which takes way to long.

The American Dental Association is spending $2.5 million per year lobbying. I doubt they do it if they think it doesn't benefit them.

https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000105
 

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Yea, this granola motherfvcker is about to get the ignore with his ludicrous crunchy earthy ****.

You're way off. You're not making a distinction between crunchy earth and practical. I am practical. I am not crunchy earth. I live in a town full of crunchy earth though and they are nutballs. Organic food is virtually a religion where I live despite the fact that a half century of research shows that organic food isn't any, you know, better for you. And it's way more expensive.

The people where I live are the most appalled of all at notions like cultured meat. And although they'd be all over solar power, they're appalled at things like fracking, which I think are great.

They're dogmatic and so are a lot of people on the other side. Dogma is the one thing I do my best to avoid. I aim to be practical. I also like efficiency in systems of things people need because that creates wealth. The more efficiently we can do things that we all NEED to do (electricity, water, food, etc) the more resources we have left to devote to things we WANT to do.

"Cheap food" is an insult where I live on principle. People take pride in food being expensive despite the fact that people need to eat three meals every single day to live. And also people where I live are hard lefties constantly talking about helping the poor, which of course completely contradicts the notion of expensive food.

If you think I'm crunchy earth then you seriously need to expand your horizons.
 

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Organic food is virtually a religion where I live despite the fact that a half century of research shows that organic food isn't any, you know, better for you. And it's way more expensive.
This is a pretty good analogy for the Paris Accord.
 

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The American Dental Association is spending $2.5 million per year lobbying. I doubt they do it if they think it doesn't benefit them.

https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000105
I said we have one, but it's peanuts since we get about 4 cents out of every healthcare dollar. Einstein, show me what we would lobby for that govt susidizes? We are more concerned with govt taking our freedom away by making us take some sort of govt insurance plan.
 

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Yes we have a lobby but it's to make sure that congress doesn't make laws that hurts our profession like having us put solar panels on our roofs.[roll] We do not get anything other than depreciation of equipment which takes way to long.

Well what do you know, it seems that the US gov't takes our tax dollars and gives them to dentists in the form of grant. Hmmm.

Also, note the comments below it. They all come from people that apparently didn't read it who are thinking the grants are for patients that can't afford dental work. Of course that brings up the chunk of people that get their dental work done with assistance from the government. The purpose of that assistance is to help the people that can't afford it but of course the end result is a de facto subsidy to dentists in the form of paying them for services that would not be bought otherwise because the people would not be able to afford to buy them.

Our tax dollars at work to pay for dentists mansions and yachts.

http://government-grants.tv/blog/dentist-grants/3610/
 

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Well what do you know, it seems that the US gov't takes our tax dollars and gives them to dentists in the form of grant. Hmmm.

Also, note the comments below it. They all come from people that apparently didn't read it who are thinking the grants are for patients that can't afford dental work. Of course that brings up the chunk of people that get their dental work done with assistance from the government. The purpose of that assistance is to help the people that can't afford it but of course the end result is a de facto subsidy to dentists in the form of paying them for services that would not be bought otherwise because the people would not be able to afford to buy them.

Our tax dollars at work to pay for dentists mansions and yachts.

http://government-grants.tv/blog/dentist-grants/3610/

Government giveaways, when will it end? I know that there are clinics set up all the time with no financing to finish. it's a big rip off that is perpetuated by our govt. Small potatoes compared to other govt giveaways which shows you how bad it really is when it comes to our government ripping off the public. By the way, you are a fool if you think dentists are living in mansions and have yahts. it's not from doing dentistry.
 

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Well what do you know, it seems that the US gov't takes our tax dollars and gives them to dentists in the form of grant. Hmmm.

Also, note the comments below it. They all come from people that apparently didn't read it who are thinking the grants are for patients that can't afford dental work. Of course that brings up the chunk of people that get their dental work done with assistance from the government. The purpose of that assistance is to help the people that can't afford it but of course the end result is a de facto subsidy to dentists in the form of paying them for services that would not be bought otherwise because the people would not be able to afford to buy them.

Our tax dollars at work to pay for dentists mansions and yachts.

http://government-grants.tv/blog/dentist-grants/3610/
There are over 100 dentist in theRoanoke Valley, we have the Bradley Free Clinic, the Rescue Mission and we have New Horizons. Tthe New Horizons was built with govt money with a large dental clinic and no equipment let alone money to pay for anything. Eventually they got govt financing thru grants to buy equipment and hire dentist and support personnel. The two former probably get some form of money, Dentist work for free, I'm the fall back guy who they call all the time to work in the evening, but New Horizons was a govt ripoff. There isn't one private dentist in the Roanoke Valley getting any subsidy and why you would think that dentist would get it is beyond me.
 

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There are over 100 dentist in theRoanoke Valley, we have the Bradley Free Clinic, the Rescue Mission and we have New Horizons. Tthe New Horizons was built with govt money with a large dental clinic and no equipment let alone money to pay for anything. Eventually they got govt financing thru grants to buy equipment and hire dentist and support personnel. The two former probably get some form of money, Dentist work for free, I'm the fall back guy who they call all the time to work in the evening, but New Horizons was a govt ripoff. There isn't one private dentist in the Roanoke Valley getting any subsidy and why you would think that dentist would get it is beyond me.

A lot of people can't pay for the dentist themselves so the government pays for them. Assuming the dentists aren't taking a loss on such customers it is a de facto subsidy. And if dentists are taking a loss then I think they'd just by and large decline such customers, like MDs sometimes do when they don't take Medicaid patients. Medicare and Medicdaid covers dental work and the cost for the dental work comes from the taxpayers.

BTW, I'm surprised you can get an Internet connection while flying on your private plane to that island you own in the Caribbean.
 

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A lot of people can't pay for the dentist themselves so the government pays for them. Assuming the dentists aren't taking a loss on such customers it is a de facto subsidy. And if dentists are taking a loss then I think they'd just by and large decline such customers, like MDs sometimes do when they don't take Medicaid patients. Medicare and Medicdaid covers dental work and the cost for the dental work comes from the taxpayers.

BTW, I'm surprised you can get an Internet connection while flying on your private plane to that island you own in the Caribbean.
In Virginia, medicaid, if you take it, only goes to age 18. Very few dentist take it since the pay is under what it costs to provide it. Medicare does not cover dental work. The Roanoke Times did an article on it in the paper several years ago. To my surprise they treated the dentist fairly. The medicaid patient is terrible since the parents make appt after appt with different dentists and then don't bring them. You can not find a private dentist in Roanoke that takes Medicaid. You are stretching to put dentist in the same boat as CEO's that get hundreds of millions of dollars for there companies. If I didn't play tournament golf and have a membership at a country club, i could own a plane and there would be nothing wrong with that. As I said, my effective tax rate is as high as it gets for people only making several 100,000 a year, 35-40%. that's extreme. i pay my own matching SS, medicare and well as my employees.