OJ: Made in America
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Yes. I enjoyed the first episode. I was in elementary school when the trial happened so I remember it, but I didn't fully understand the details and context. It's been interesting going back and seeing the FX series and this.
I was born in 87 so obviously a ton of this is new to me. I've read several books on LAPD vs. King and OJ Simpson. But had no idea about the Latasha girl either. I know a lot more about OJ than I do about the culture and racism in LA during those times.
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Remember OJ's college days and on. He was a pretty amazing character as well as an athlete needless to say. Episode 1 brings back many memories. The first 2,000 yd rushing season was big time at it's best. LA ain't got nothing on Dixie with so many outlandish racial issues of their own. Looking back from OJ's younger days it is mind-blowing that he went down the notorious "lost highway" Looking forward to the series
I've followed this case pretty closely from the get-go, so I obviously knew OJ beat Nicole, but still it was tough hearing those 911 calls, interviews and excerpts from her diary. Dude didn't just lose it one night. This was a pattern of violence that kept escalating.
So far, this doc is tremendous.
So far, this doc is tremendous.
OJ is guilty. Can't imagine anyone thinks otherwise. The lawyers that defended him are no better human beings IMO.
Did not know about the murder of the young black girl. Mercy. Unimaginable that lady didn't go to prison.
No way the officers don't go to prison nowadays in the Rodney King case. Merciless.
Does anyone know whatever happened to the truck driver that was beaten in the middle of the road on camera during the beginning of the riots? That was brutal. I still remember seeing that live.
Did not know about the murder of the young black girl. Mercy. Unimaginable that lady didn't go to prison.
No way the officers don't go to prison nowadays in the Rodney King case. Merciless.
Does anyone know whatever happened to the truck driver that was beaten in the middle of the road on camera during the beginning of the riots? That was brutal. I still remember seeing that live.
Okay, I'm either going to watch this one or the People vs. OJ simpson here in the next couple of weeks. Which one would you recommend?
The documentary and it's not even close.
ESPN is promoting this documentary for all its worth, as if there is new news out there. I made the mistake of listening to ESPN radio on Saturday morning and Booger McFarland was on with some host I'd never heard of. Booger said unequivocally that he thought OJ was innocent and that his experience was that everyone (black and white) had been happy that OJ was acquitted because it was clear he did not commit the murders. He acted as if a majority of people feel that way. It was really unbelievable. it struck me that Booger is someone who can competently discuss college football but, like many of the ESPN personalities, has no business talking about weightier subjects.
Shocking a guy named Booger is an idiot.
If you want to watch actors act, go with People. If you want to see OJ as himself and how he lived with real interviews with his family and friends, watch the 30 for 30.
Precisely. Just watched episode 2 recordation. Probably (?) episode 3 tonite will be the murder scenario.
IIRC the Reginald Denton attack was day 1 of a 3 day riot? I truly wish they just let that city burn and left those people with the consequences of looting every store within range. After 6-7 days those same people would have cried racism when white people wouldn't deliver food to the area.
And I also remember the main reason those cops got off was because of what happened before they started recording.
And I also remember the main reason those cops got off was because of what happened before they started recording.
The attorneys, except for Cochran, wanted him to plea manslaughter. Kardashian had a real rough time with going through with the trial.
I wasn't old enough to remember this trial. I had read about it before and thought he was guilty. Nothing as of yet has led me to believe otherwise. Great documentary.
That really pissed me off for the Fri nite game being bumped for the "chase"
Apparently part four shows close ups of Brown and Goldman's injuries. The first airing will show the photos, repeats will blur the images. I think I'm going to record the the repeat.
http://www.businessinsider.com/oj-simpson-never-before-seen-crime-scene-photos-2016-6
http://www.businessinsider.com/oj-simpson-never-before-seen-crime-scene-photos-2016-6
They showed the bodies in the last episode- first time I had seen them. It was quick, so you had to pause it. I thought that was pretty graphic. I don't think I can handle the neck injuries up close.
Goldman was a pretty fit dude. Imagine it would've taken someone with OJ's size and athleticism (and the knife, of course) to overtake him.
So far, I'd rank them:
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All were terrific- it's just that the trial and lead-up has been covered so many times. I thought the information on OJ and Nicole's lifestyle, friend group and relationship was the most interesting- not to mention how disturbing the domestic violence was.
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All were terrific- it's just that the trial and lead-up has been covered so many times. I thought the information on OJ and Nicole's lifestyle, friend group and relationship was the most interesting- not to mention how disturbing the domestic violence was.
i knew he beat her, murdered her, and was an all-around POS
but that he watched her have sex with another man through a window and then knocked on the door and confronted her about it was pretty shocking
the cops got off because of people like you being on the jury
pretty sure this has been mentioned by someone else at some point in the last 25 years but it doesn't matter what happened before they started recording
the rioters were upset about video evidence of lapd brutality--that they'd been experiencing for decades--being ignored. they concluded there would never be justice for them within the system
you're upset about an imagined scenario where somebody throws a brick through a window during the fifth day of riots, then can't get a pizza delivered, and then has a press conference arranged by the naacp to decry the racism of the delivery driver
Still, Goldman was 25 and OJ was 46. 46 is 46, even for The Juice. Maybe he was that much bigger. In any event, yeah, the knife is a great equalizer.....
Well ok......rioting because of said video makes rioting ok, but beating the **** out of some dude that absolutely will not stay on the ground and obey those in charge can not be justified at all?
I really don't care. I think the cops should have been fired at the very least personally. I'm not for the cops at all, nor do I think the rioting is justified.
I also found it funny really that in the first show they went out of their way to show that OJ wasn't black in his world. Then they went out of their way to show the blacks still supported him, but every black person I know wish he was convicted of murder.
Just a weird all around scenario.
Just watched episode 3. The case was over before it began. Episode 4 will be interesting......
I watched a lot of the live coverage of the trail at the time. My conclusion about the whole thing was that the prosecutors were incredible stupid and more interested in advancing their own careers instead of winning the case. This was a slam dunk case. They had the victims blood in the Bronco, a trail a blood leading up to the Simpson door, bloody sock, bloody glove, motive opportunity etc.
They could have presented this evidence in 2 days, rested their case and probably got a conviction. Instead they put on zillions of witnesses and experts that took weeks, which the defense cross examined which took more weeks and in the end the jury was so thoroughly confused that the only thing they could remember was Johnny Cochran saying "if the glove don't fit you must acquit" even though Simpson did actually put the gloves on.
In the end though the laws of Karma caught up with Simpson.
They could have presented this evidence in 2 days, rested their case and probably got a conviction. Instead they put on zillions of witnesses and experts that took weeks, which the defense cross examined which took more weeks and in the end the jury was so thoroughly confused that the only thing they could remember was Johnny Cochran saying "if the glove don't fit you must acquit" even though Simpson did actually put the gloves on.
In the end though the laws of Karma caught up with Simpson.
It did show them and was definitely gruesome. I'm surprised they showed em actually.
Barry scheck. Probably the best criminal defense mind out there. Not the showman that Cochran was, nor the legend at cross like F. Lee Bailey. But probably the best in terms of knowledge/research. That was extraordinarily important, especially back before the Internet took over legal research.
There was a lot more to OJ getting off than just race. I always thought it was just Fuhrman that blew everything but that guy collecting evidence looked like a rookie too. Then Chris Darden doing dumb stuff at every turn.
It's a shame because there is no doubt he killed them what so ever.
It's a shame because there is no doubt he killed them what so ever.
OJ beat this woman on a regular basis. No denying that. He was an awful person. Finally ending with him killing her. Ron Goldman was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. OJ is an awful human being.
His lawyers were/are despicable people as well. Thankfully, OJ got caught in Vegas and is in prison as he should be. All of OJ's lawyers are without a conscience. Cochran being maybe the worst. Comparing Fuhrman (who is equally awful) to Hitler is beyond ridiculous.
Darden gave the trial away with the trying on of the gloves. Complete idiot.
The judge in the case might have been the biggest idiot of them all.
The jurors had no intention of convicting OJ once the tapes of Fuhrman were played, which had absolutely nothing to do with the case.
Two people were brutally murdered. Brutally. Nicole's head was nearly cut completely off. Goldman was stabbed unmercifully and these lowlife lawyers are acting as if OJ was the victim of racism. A man who had or did nothing for the black community is setting there playing a victim, knowing what he did. The whole thing was shameful.
OJ is still without remorse. Shows just how defiled he is. His lawyers are even worse.
His lawyers were/are despicable people as well. Thankfully, OJ got caught in Vegas and is in prison as he should be. All of OJ's lawyers are without a conscience. Cochran being maybe the worst. Comparing Fuhrman (who is equally awful) to Hitler is beyond ridiculous.
Darden gave the trial away with the trying on of the gloves. Complete idiot.
The judge in the case might have been the biggest idiot of them all.
The jurors had no intention of convicting OJ once the tapes of Fuhrman were played, which had absolutely nothing to do with the case.
Two people were brutally murdered. Brutally. Nicole's head was nearly cut completely off. Goldman was stabbed unmercifully and these lowlife lawyers are acting as if OJ was the victim of racism. A man who had or did nothing for the black community is setting there playing a victim, knowing what he did. The whole thing was shameful.
OJ is still without remorse. Shows just how defiled he is. His lawyers are even worse.
Yeah, actually race rarely keeps you out of jail. There's a few million black guys in jail that got sent there even with black people on their jury. The difference is they aren't Heisman winners and TV personalities.
It's easy to send people to jail that you think are going to keep selling drugs or murdering people. But like that Stanford swimmer, people will let others off easy if they think you won't do harm again. I doubt those jurors imagined oj would kill again or hold up people with a gun.
And yes, oj killed Nicole and should have a needle in his forearm. But, I'd like to think some good came out of this. Maybe the LAPD accepted a few less white supremacists into the academy. Maybe they started teaching officers it's really not ok to plant evidence. Because instead of making it easier to put possible criminals in jail they were making it easier for known killers go free. And don't go showing me the stories that they're still planning evidence. Maybe it's at least less often.