ok Ricky- i'll be there at 2 pm...

Coach34

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here's the itenirary- have the video guy ready:

2:00 pm-
Scheduling 101- The RPI is your friend

2:30 pm-
Defensive basketball-
Blocking out, when NOT to get into a zone, full-court pressure and traps

3:30 pm
Inbounds plays
More than just getting the ball inbounds

4:00 pm- 7pm
Offensive basketball
You too can have a package that includes more than the Weave and ball screens
Flex cuts
Diagonal screens to the block
Staggering double-screens for hot 3pt shooters
Coaching hot players at halftime- how to encourage them to keep shooting
Hi-Lo principles

7pm-9pm
More Offensive basketball
Zone offense
Zone offense special plays
How to break down a zone

10pm
Getting along with disgruntled players
How to keep them in your program until they are ready to play
Treating all the players relatively the same
How to show the team you are in charge- not them

11pm
When to call Time-Outs

Have a case of beer ready for me Coach so my throat doesnt get dry during these long sessions- hopefully when I'm done, I won't sound like you do after a ballgame

Go Dawgs!!
 

Coach34

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Jul 20, 2012
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here's the itenirary- have the video guy ready:

2:00 pm-
Scheduling 101- The RPI is your friend

2:30 pm-
Defensive basketball-
Blocking out, when NOT to get into a zone, full-court pressure and traps

3:30 pm
Inbounds plays
More than just getting the ball inbounds

4:00 pm- 7pm
Offensive basketball
You too can have a package that includes more than the Weave and ball screens
Flex cuts
Diagonal screens to the block
Staggering double-screens for hot 3pt shooters
Coaching hot players at halftime- how to encourage them to keep shooting
Hi-Lo principles

7pm-9pm
More Offensive basketball
Zone offense
Zone offense special plays
How to break down a zone

10pm
Getting along with disgruntled players
How to keep them in your program until they are ready to play
Treating all the players relatively the same
How to show the team you are in charge- not them

11pm
When to call Time-Outs

Have a case of beer ready for me Coach so my throat doesnt get dry during these long sessions- hopefully when I'm done, I won't sound like you do after a ballgame

Go Dawgs!!
 

Frances Drebin

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...going to try to come up with something smartassed to say, but this is actually pretty funny. Good luck with all this.
 

patdog

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May 28, 2007
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it looked to be a little tougher back before teams like Texas Tech, Washington St., Charlotte and South Alabama all went in the tank this year. And even with those teams tanking, we still have the 4th toughest schedule in the SEC.
 

hooptydawg

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And while I'm not a member of the spelling police, there are some that you SHOULD NOT misspell. And <span style="font-weight: bold;">r-e-t-a-r-d-e-d</span> is one of those.
 

patdog

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May 28, 2007
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Last year's RPI:

USA - #40
Charlotte - #72
Wash St. - #18
Texas Tech - #69

That's at least a pretty decent non-conference schedule, when you add teams like Western Kentucky and Cincinnati to it.</p>
 

Frances Drebin

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...these teams wouldn't have had quite the negative impact on our RPI this year had we actually beaten all of them. But, that said, I agree with the overall sentiment that we need to schedule better. Having the fourth-toughest schedule in the SEC doesn't mean much when most schools outside of UT, Ark, and Kentucky historically schedule weakly.
 

DawgatAuburn

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Apr 25, 2006
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Last year heading into the NCAAs our RPI was 40.

After the season we lost Rhodes, Gordon and Hansbrough.

Any reasonable person could look at our returning roster and speculate that our RPI was going to take a hit this year.

I don't have time to do all the non-conference teams on our schedule, but let's take Washington State since they were the highest. They lost three seniors who were four year starters. That's very similar to what happened to us except our guys left to go to the draft and to transfer. How difficult would it be to speculate that Washington State was maybe going to take a step back this year?

Answer: Not hard for anyone who knows anything about basketball. If Byrne and Stricklin don't want to do the research, fine. But they shouldn't go whining to Veazey the next year when the teams they scheduled have low RPIs. First of all, you picked em. Second of all, most of em beat us anyway, so what does the RPI matter at this point?
 

8dog

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Feb 23, 2008
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if we are looking solely at last year's RPI to figure out who would be good to schedule this year, then we are dumber than I thought.
 

patdog

Heisman
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that's the year we should take on a really tough schedule? That makes absolutely no sense at all. You schedule up when you're going to be good and when you're going to be down, you don't schedule quite as tough.</p>
 

DawgatAuburn

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The schedule discussion has been going on for a few weeks now. When we were a game behind LSU with them coming to the Hump, people were complaining about the schedule and the hit we were taking in the RPI because all those teams were down. They were discounting the fact that we lost to all of them, which is another example of fan ignorance. We even had Veazey quoting Stricklin talking about how we expected an RPI boon from those teams which was just stupid to say on many levels. We probably scheduled about right given the makeup of our team, but we were stupid enough to tell Veazey that we were disappointed in the RPI of our opponents when we were actually still competing for the post-season. It was like we were blaming those teams for our RPI being in the 70s/80s instead of looking at our actual performance first.
 

patdog

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May 28, 2007
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and now you say the schedule's not the problem after all. Make up your mind. By the way, I do agree with you that the problem isn't so much just that we've played bad teams as it is that we've managed to lose to way too many of them. You can play a mediocre schedule and wind up with a good RPI only if you win all the games you should win. You start losing a few of those (especially two at home like we did) and your RPI is screwed. The problem with this team is, it wasn't going to have much of a chance at the NCAA no matter how we'd scheduled. If we'd scheduled a truly national schedule like you and a couple of others seem to want, our RPI would be better, but we'd finish somewhere around 15-15.
 

8dog

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with trying to schedule a couple of teams you know will be really good regardless of whether you are rebuilding or not. A loss to them is much better than a loss to TT, Wazzu, Charlotte, or San Diego. Ole Miss is about 15 spots ahead of us in the RPI b/c of that even though they are a game back in overall record.

I think the question is: how hard is it for us to get games against those teams?
 

Shmuley

Heisman
Mar 6, 2008
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"Getting control of your ***** and consideration of re-naming your Israeli Patriarch Inspired brats"
 

patdog

Heisman
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8Dog said:
I think the question is: how hard is it for us to get games against those teams?
My guess is that we could get a game or two like that every year if we agreed to go to their place. It's probably a lot harder to get those type games on a neutral court (unless we're expected to have a real good team) and even harder to get those teams to come to Starkville. My real beef with our scheduling is that we schedule way too many games against teams with 250+ RPIs (more than one of those is way too many). If you want to boost our RPI without sacrificing wins, replace Centenary (#300), LA-Monroe (#277), Fairleigh Dickinson (#306) and North Alabama (Div. II) with teams in the #100-#200 range.
 

MSUCostanza

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If we scheduled 7 or 8 top 20 RPI teams and went 1-7 against them this year, the Stansbury haters would be jizzing themselves to get on this board and rip him for that too. Our RPI of 40 and a record of 12-15 wouldn't be so great, would it? Use some common sense folks.

Also, Washington State and Texas Tech were part of a tournament. Unless I am mistaken, we didn't "schedule" them.

Point is, we didn't have the team this year to schedule heavy. That's why we had a weak schedule. if you folks would actually do some digging, you'd find that we typically have a decent schedule in the years we think we're going to be a top team, and we typically have a weaker schedule in the years we are fitting a lot of new faces in, which includes this year. Coach makes the dumb comment that we should just travel all over the country playing UConn or whoever. As an SEC program, we should demand home and home series, or at least a deal like we worked with Xavier, playing 3 times, including the game at MSG. We shouldn't have to pimp ourselves out like we're USM or a SWAC school or something.

The other point is, it doesn't matter what he does, there is a group of people on here that will find fault with it one way or another. It's gotten comical at this point.

Whenever Stansbury leaves, if we go back to how it used to be with MSU basketball (i.e. making 1 NIT tournament (and losing to Alcorn State in that game) between 1963 and 1990), maybe what some of us have been saying will sink in. Can we do better? Maybe. Historically speaking, it's doubtful, however. That one miraculous weekend in 1996 has skewed people's expectations to ridiculous heights. And the talent argument must be laid out here as well - what did that 1996 team have? One long-time NBA player and one that had the talent to play a long time in the NBA. Two first round draft picks. Those of you that say college success doesn't equal NBA talent should take a long look at that.

I still laugh at Coach's stupid comment that he's only satisfied with MSU sports if we are in a top-tier bowl every year and the Sweet 16 all the time. Face it... we've been to one NYD bowl game since the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor and we've been to 2 Sweet 16's in our history (with our current coach as the associate head coach of those teams, by the way.) Reality is a *****.