Yes and the players transferring in could get better
potential is better with these in my opinion
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potential is better with these in my opinion
Maybe so. It sure would be nice to not have to start all the way over every year.
Well hopefully we get a good sophomore and a good junior or a junior/senior
And the younger guys are worth keeping!!
Maybe. But the production is not there. Even though it may be a wash on paper as far as “potential” goes, with those leaving us in the portal and with those coming in so far- But the “production” weighs more with what left us.
How do you know that? Your making a guess. And it doesn't appear to be an educated guess b/c the guys who left weren't very 17ing good.
I meant the production of playing, and not just playing but the experience of playing in Lebby’s offense. Of all the ones coming in inly Chester would equal or wash out the production value of Lewis and Work. I was thinking about Cignetti’s value of “production over potential” as I was typing that. I may be over speaking, but I would have preferred to keep who we had and also added these guys for depth. Lebbys style of offense needs depth anyways.
I’m not in the run the ball crowd but rather in just win, I don’t care if it’s ugly.
Just as a general philosophy of mine, I think you have a better chance at winning with average to below average skill players as compared to average to below average line play. I think that is especially true for our team next year. I like Taylor but he’s not gonna turn into tom Brady during the spring. Lebby needs to look at the “relf coast offense” to have a chance at 6 wins next year.
I don’t really keep up with the portal, several on here say quality OL are not in abundance in the portal. So, transforming the line may not be possible.
What is so wrong with running the football? The final four featured teams with above average to elite rushing attacks. And in their last games, both Indiana and Miami’s run success decided those games.
I don’t care if we run the ball the majority of the time. I also don’t care if we pass the ball the majority of the time. The post I responded to said something about getting offensive lineman to satisfy the “run the ball crowd”. I was just stating that I’d prioritize OL no matter if we plan to run heavy or not.
Although, I think our best chance to win next year is to be run heavy.
I’d rather have production than potential. Especially when potential had t even started a game yet. Our OL will be like 2025. They’ll struggle as 1st starters & then transfer out. While the ones who transferred out to other P4 schools will be decent.
Exactly. On OL we’re building for 2027 & 2028 with players who won’t even be here by then.
I think the majority of the fanbase would be happy if we can put together an OL that can block (run or pass) for more than 0.5 seconds.
fat fingering things.. I was corrected about the lead and follow crap and my phone is tiny and I have fat fingers.
On top of that, I am old and legally blind. Deal with it or ignore me. I would probably chose to ignore
I did that post "tongue-in-cheek". I want us to be able to run the ball too. We need a balanced attack. Even Indiana loses yardage on some runs. I don't expect us to have 250 yards/game on the ground in the SEC but it would be nice to be over 150 on average and not be the result of broken pass blocking QB runs.
Hopefully we match any other offers and sign Jordan Seaton. That would solidify the left tackle position. Loadholt should have an edge in this recruitment. He may have got him from high school.
There is nothing wrong with running the ball. We just have a problem with some fans that can’t stand modern football.
We get a QB that throws the ball and we lose so they want to go back to the wishbone or a damn “niche” offense.
In today’s college football you should strive for 3000 yards passing and 1800 rushing AT MINIMUM. But for some reason we have a segment of the fanbase that feels that it is totally unachievable, MSU HAS to be a running team or a passing team.
Hell, even the “niche” offense at Vandy produced 3700 yards passing and 2200 rushing. And for today’s offenses that is not even elite. Yet here at MSU we have a segment of “rundabawl” and “niche offense” people that have convinced themselves that those are astronomical numbers that MSU couldn’t ever hope to achieve. So they want to pick the easy way of 1970-80s ball which we SUCKED at during those decades and think that we could compete in the current SEC by playing that style.
So would you consider Lebby’s offense niche? Maybe This question deserves another thread.
So with no real clue about who any of these players are, it looks like we are establishing a young line of the type we would basically have if we had had a pretty good recruiting class last year. Our "returning" class along with their high school rankings would look like this:
OT - Tyler Miller, FR, 4 star (originally from Laurel, so arguably somebody we "should" have gotten in high school)
OT - Isaiah Autry-Dent, RS Fr 3 star (from Fulton, MS, so again, somebody we "should" have gotten)
G - LJ Prudhomme, FR, 3 star
C - DJ CHester RS So, 4 star
OT - Mario Nash, Fr 4 star (from Kemper Co, so another "should" have gotten)
OT - Jaelyne Matthews, FR 3 star
That looks like decent options to build a line from, in 2027 and 2028.
Then you actually return the following players that basically made an appearance in every game or almost every game (I'm assuming if you werent' good enough to play this year, you're not going to be good enough to help next year):
- Blake Steen (didn't really contribute because of injury, but would have been a starter)
- Jayvin Q James
- Zack Owens
- Wesley Davis
So yea, I'm not sure what 5 we have ready to play out of those two groups.
OT - Tyler Miller, FR, 4 star (originally from Laurel, so arguably somebody we "should" have gotten in high school)
OT - Isaiah Autry-Dent, RS Fr 3 star (from Fulton, MS, so again, somebody we "should" have gotten)
G - LJ Prudhomme, FR, 3 star
C - DJ CHester RS So, 4 star
OT - Mario Nash, Fr 4 star (from Kemper Co, so another "should" have gotten)
OT - Jaelyne Matthews, FR 3 star
That looks like decent options to build a line from, in 2027 and 2028.
Then you actually return the following players that basically made an appearance in every game or almost every game (I'm assuming if you werent' good enough to play this year, you're not going to be good enough to help next year):
- Blake Steen (didn't really contribute because of injury, but would have been a starter)
- Jayvin Q James
- Zack Owens
- Wesley Davis
So yea, I'm not sure what 5 we have ready to play out of those two groups.
That is frightening looking as a starting lineup if that were for this next season, in the SEC with regards to youth and lack of experience Yikes!
Loadholt likes to rotate linemen. Imo you should be able to find 7 or 8 guys there that can open a hole as well as pass block. We also have 2 large rs freshmen already. Speaking of run da bawl this offense requires a good run game to be effective
Someone with the initials of KT may be running for his life, hopefully with some blockers this season.
.I hope so but we are still a couple of players away from that. We still have to have a LT.
That’s a lot of inexperienced unproven players you’re putting confidence into being able to turn into a better than average OL pretty much immediately. I’m skeptical.