Ole Miss fans, my question is this......

[Dollabillz]

And a disclaimer, I'm not passing judgement on whether or not you should take Masoli. I'm not quite sure I've I'd have taken him if I was Mullen. I also had my own thoughts about taking Cam Newton, especially after Relf had the strong finish to the season, but alas, the question.....

Why is it that Masoli (who is a starter, not a backup) is important NOW. The guy you lost was a backup, if I read correctly. Nathan Stanley was firmly entrenched as the opening day quarterback. So why now do you need a starting QB to take a backup's place, when three days ago Nutt was so vehemently opposed to taking said starter? I mean, he got his JUCO guy in Mackey.

Masoli's not coming to sit the bench. However, at this point, I don't know who else you'd get. Most players already have their plans made for the upcoming season, unless you get another JUCO guy who didn't have offers anywhere else.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

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[Dollabillz]

Would Masoli be brought in to start or be Stanley's backup? Because if it's the latter then it's not really worth it, and he probably won't come do that anyway.

 

[SyonaraStanz]

I also had my own thoughts about taking Cam Newton, especially after Relf had the strong finish to the season, but alas, the question.....

last season, but it's not like he turned a corner or something. He ran the ball all over a defense, whose coach couldn't figure our offense out. He threw the ball mediocre at best. I think he'll be able to run well this season, but I'm not buying that he can hit the ocean from the beach until I see it happen consistently.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

apparently Stanley is ok with the idea.

 

[patdog]

No 17ing way. He might get a few, but if Nutt brings Masoli in, he's got one starting QB and it sure as hell isn't Stanley. You'd go from having one of the 3 worst QBs in the league to having one of the 3 best. No way those two would split snaps.

 

[Dollabillz]

and how exactly would you know that Stanley is OK with going from probable starter to backup once again.

The issue is, one day Nutt is OK with Stanley starting then the next he's not (if in fact Masoli is brought in). There's alot of other options out there, especially ones that don't have criminal records, if you're just looking for another backup.

 

[Original48]

If not, it would certainly be ironic that the the backup was actually the one invited after all.

 

[RougeDawg]

Relf didn't play first half of season because he was smoking the reefer. Andwhy would he pass against the little rebels? He ran it down their throat when they knew what was coming.

Nutt is a complete idiot, get rid of Patterson for being disgruntled but take in a convicted con to save his ***. I'm really beginning to see why Razorback fans wanted his dumbass gone a long time before they got rid of him.. He's not only a joke to ole piss but slowly bringing bad attention to the whole state... Keep it up Ole Miss Assclowns (my vote for new mascot)...

 

[Beretta.sixpack]

If not, it would certainly be ironic that the the backup was actually the one invited after all.

 

[RebelBruiser]

No 17ing way. He might get a few, but if Nutt brings Masoli in, he's got one starting QB and it sure as hell isn't Stanley. You'd go from having one of the 3 worst QBs in the league to having one of the 3 best. No way those two would split snaps.

No way Stanley DOESN'T get snaps in the first few games at the very least. You're talking about bringing in a QB at the very beginning of fall practice and saying he'll take ALL of the snaps immediately?

Sound familiar? Brent Schaeffer anyone?

Masoli is better than that, but there is no way Masoli could take in the entire offense AND be ready to start full time in a month's time. He'd have to be given the offense in pieces, and he could handle those pieces. By mid-season maybe he'd be ready to be the full-time starter, and likely he'd be our best option at that point, but no way he could take all of the snaps and run the entire offense in only a month.

As to the original post, you take a player, because he makes your team better. I was fine with Stanley starting when he had two back ups. Having one back up that just got to campus this summer is a scary thought. We need a body there. If that body is good enough to beat out our current starter, then that means picking him up made our team better, and that's a bonus.

If you can add a player that can beat out a current starter, then you made your team better. That's not a tough decision.

 

[patdog]

I'm sure Masoli will have to earn the starting job and not have it given to him before he even gets to Oxford. But he's just so much better than Stanley that he'll earn that job by the 1st game of the season, whether he knows all of the offense or not (he won't know all of it). Of course Stanley will get a good bit of snaps in that game though since it's your I-AA game.

 

[RebelBruiser]

Masoli > Schaeffer. The situations though, are comparable. The ability to learn a system and start taking all the snaps immediately is the same.

You may be right, and maybe we'll be running a simple version of the offense the first few weeks with Masoli getting all of the snaps, but I still think we'd let Stanley run some offense, especially given the opponents the first 3 weeks. I would guess Masoli would beat him out full time later, but I doubt he's the full time every snap starter by the Tulane game. Maybe by the Kentucky game.

And I still stand by my point that if you are correct and Masoli is that much better than Stanley, then he makes our team better, which makes the question of why we would take him very easy to answer.

 

[Mean Machine say what]

nobody knows (unless Nutt is on here) what the plan is.

Stanley has been quoted as saying for Nutt to do whatever he needs to do to help the team.

You reasoning is flawed. I agree with OP4 and everyone else on the subject. I have little doubt both would play. I think Msoli runs an expanded Wild Reb package for most...if not all the the season. So it is not a "Ok with Stanley or not" question. It is can we be better with Masoli.

There is no chance masoli would take every snap early on particularly.