Ole Miss footballer arrested...
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What I find really funny. Scroll down and look at the other recent articles, and you get this gem.
http://blog.gulflive.com/mississipp...pascagoulas_senqu.html#incart_related_stories
Haha
http://blog.gulflive.com/mississipp...pascagoulas_senqu.html#incart_related_stories
Haha
the right Reverend will give him a good talkin' to and he will get a slap on the wrist...He cant afford to lose any players, when he told his players they would never lose the Egg Bowl again.
You've really gotta wonder what's up with this decision. This was a dumb decision IMO no matter how it turns out. Let's say he get drafted as high as jonathon banks. Banks deal is 4 year 4.726 million. There's no way I'd turn down the $1,000,000. Too much risk to jeopardize a starting point like that.
Bull **** to get arrested. He doesn't have to indentify himself unless the police suspect him of committing a crime.
Yeah, sounds like classic profiling to me. He should've complied but people who know they're being profiled tend to get a little upset.
Yeah. A public drunk charge would hold up in court a lot easier so if that were the case I feel like that would've been the charge. According to this story, it just sounds like a young black kid got mouthy with a cop and the cop probably assumed he could get away with arresting some random kid on the street. We'll find out in time.
Eventually yes, but baseball signees don't get the entire bonus upfront. They get it piece by piece over time.
Besides, we all know Ole Mi$$ can offer more than a million.**
Besides, we all know Ole Mi$$ can offer more than a million.**
I'm pretty sure legally he doesn't have to comply unless they suspect him of being a suspect in a crime.
Police are allowed to make investigatory stops which basically means they were in the area and saw something suspicious (like a shirtless black guy). Refusing to ID himself further escalated the situation and that's really all they need.
If that's all it was, it's really weak.
If that's all it was, it's really weak.
didn't the Supreme Court tell Arizona asking for ID is unconstitutional? Him doing more or the cops being over zealous pricks, neither would surprise me.
It was my understanding that the cops can ask for ID, and, as long as you aren't breaking any other laws, you can tell them you don't want to talk to them and walk away. Most people who don't want to identify themselves don't lead off with "I would like to terminate this encounter," but something more along the lines of "**** you." It's not illegal to be a dick, but it is illegal to be a dick to a cop.
I appears that this is where Mr. Golson (constitutional scholar) found himself this past weekend. Let this post be a lesson to you all. If you don't want to talk to the cops, tell them that, but don't be a dick about it.
The Arizona law required people who were suspected of being illegal immigrants to hand over proper identification if the cops asked for it. SCOTUS saw through that **** and shut it down.
I appears that this is where Mr. Golson (constitutional scholar) found himself this past weekend. Let this post be a lesson to you all. If you don't want to talk to the cops, tell them that, but don't be a dick about it.
The Arizona law required people who were suspected of being illegal immigrants to hand over proper identification if the cops asked for it. SCOTUS saw through that **** and shut it down.
Disorderly Conduct + no other charge = Contempt of Cop
Very common 'crime'. Had a few friends of mine arrested for it over the years. Usually involved a little stupidity, but sometimes just involved looking or being dressed in a way that annoyed the cop. Maybe too preppy or something, I don't know what sets somebody like that off.
My understanding is that the SC ...
ruled that you don't have to produce proof of citizenship. In some states, believe Mississippi is one of them, you must identify yourself if asked by a sworn officer.
Form the ACLU website ... https://www.aclu.org/drug-law-refor...acial-justice/know-your-rights-what-do-if-you
IF YOU ARE STOPPED FOR QUESTIONING
Stay calm. Don't run. Don't argue, resist or obstruct the police, even if you are innocent or police are violating your rights. Keep your hands where police can see them.
Ask if you are free to leave. If the officer says yes, calmly and silently walk away. If you are under arrest, you have a right to know why.
You have the right to remain silent and cannot be punished for refusing to answer questions. If you wish to remain silent, tell the officer out loud. In some states, you must give your name if asked to identify yourself.
You do not have to consent to a search of yourself or your belongings, but police may "pat down" your clothing if they suspect a weapon. You should not physically resist, but you have the right to refuse consent for any further search. If you do consent, it can affect you later in court.
ruled that you don't have to produce proof of citizenship. In some states, believe Mississippi is one of them, you must identify yourself if asked by a sworn officer.
Form the ACLU website ... https://www.aclu.org/drug-law-refor...acial-justice/know-your-rights-what-do-if-you
IF YOU ARE STOPPED FOR QUESTIONING
Stay calm. Don't run. Don't argue, resist or obstruct the police, even if you are innocent or police are violating your rights. Keep your hands where police can see them.
Ask if you are free to leave. If the officer says yes, calmly and silently walk away. If you are under arrest, you have a right to know why.
You have the right to remain silent and cannot be punished for refusing to answer questions. If you wish to remain silent, tell the officer out loud. In some states, you must give your name if asked to identify yourself.
You do not have to consent to a search of yourself or your belongings, but police may "pat down" your clothing if they suspect a weapon. You should not physically resist, but you have the right to refuse consent for any further search. If you do consent, it can affect you later in court.
Bingo. I don't think have to show ID unless you are being detained. And you can ask the cop exactly that. If the cop sees you as being uncooperative, potentially suspicious and an idiot, they can goad you into acting like an fool and nail you for disorderly. Evidently, Mr. Golson was all three.
Am I being detained??? This video makes me laugh, and sad simultaneously. The officers are so shocked Americans want to exercise their rights and they even get mad. These checkpoints are totally unconstitutional, and they're all over texas, whether you cross the border or not
Mississippi Code Annotated section 97-35-7 is the statute that prohibits "disorderly conduct." It sounds like it was written as a reaction to civil rights protests. In any event, it says:
(1) Whoever, with intent to provoke a breach of the peace, or under such circumstances as may lead to a breach of the peace, or which may cause or occasion a breach of the peace, fails or refuses to promptly comply with or obey a request, command, or order of a law enforcement officer, having the authority to then and there arrest any person for a violation of the law, to:
(a) [go away], or
(b) [get up and move], or
(c) [stop lying down or sitting somewhere], or
(d) [get out of the way of a car], or
(e) [basically the same thing as (d)], or
(f) [untie himself from something or someone], or
(g) [basically the same thing as (f)], or
(h) [get in a police car], or
(i) [do something or stop doing something] as ordered, requested or commanded by said officer to avoid any breach of the peace at or near the place of issuance of such order, request or command, shall be guilty of disorderly conduct, which is made a misdemeanor and, upon conviction thereof, such person...shall be punished by a fine of not more than Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00) or imprisonment in the county jail for not more than six (6) months, or by both such fine and imprisonment.
(1) Whoever, with intent to provoke a breach of the peace, or under such circumstances as may lead to a breach of the peace, or which may cause or occasion a breach of the peace, fails or refuses to promptly comply with or obey a request, command, or order of a law enforcement officer, having the authority to then and there arrest any person for a violation of the law, to:
(a) [go away], or
(b) [get up and move], or
(c) [stop lying down or sitting somewhere], or
(d) [get out of the way of a car], or
(e) [basically the same thing as (d)], or
(f) [untie himself from something or someone], or
(g) [basically the same thing as (f)], or
(h) [get in a police car], or
(i) [do something or stop doing something] as ordered, requested or commanded by said officer to avoid any breach of the peace at or near the place of issuance of such order, request or command, shall be guilty of disorderly conduct, which is made a misdemeanor and, upon conviction thereof, such person...shall be punished by a fine of not more than Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00) or imprisonment in the county jail for not more than six (6) months, or by both such fine and imprisonment.
Pump the brakes on that. I have no idea what happened, but I do know that, give the opportunity, a cop is trained to arrest anyone who isn't well aware of their rights. From that point forward (until, well, yesterday actually) just about any search is incident to arrest.
Any cop can ask you for your identification at any time, but you don't have to give it them. Likewise, any cop can ask you to search your house, car, whatever at any time. It's your right to tell them no. if you do tell them no, the cop is basically trained to badger you into losing your temper at which point you're going to get arrested for disorderly, and their going to do whatever they wanted anyway. That's all I was commenting on. I have no idea what happened to Senquez.
Any cop can ask you for your identification at any time, but you don't have to give it them. Likewise, any cop can ask you to search your house, car, whatever at any time. It's your right to tell them no. if you do tell them no, the cop is basically trained to badger you into losing your temper at which point you're going to get arrested for disorderly, and their going to do whatever they wanted anyway. That's all I was commenting on. I have no idea what happened to Senquez.
Pretty much agree. A lot of cops could do well to read the 4th Amendment to the Constitution, then do their duty to uphold it, not violate it. It's a slippery slope, cops have a hard job to do, and there is a lot of trash out there that needs cleaning up but it can't be at the expense of the 4th Amendment.
Reading the 4th Amendment by itself isn't going to help anybody do anything.
There's a reason society allows lawyers to exist.
There's a reason society allows lawyers to exist.