OM Roster

engie

Sophomore
May 29, 2011
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If all of the rumored transfers go through, just considering initial counters(not awarded walk-ons), they will be at ~ 56 scholarship players.

11 currently in the signing class putting them at 67 total.

7 of 23 4*and 5* players are in the transfer rumor mill including 4 of their top 8 overall players per 'crootin rankings, and if a couple of those actually follow through and jump the flood gates to open with most of the rest...

Zero incoming 4*s in the class currently.

Of 7 4*s classified as FR this season, 4 are rumored transfers. The other 3 are Metcalf, Bowie, and Charles Wiley. Metcalf is the only one they can count on to stay aboard IMO.

Speaks, Patterson, McDowell, and Lodge are 4*s that are automatically eligible for immediate transfer(rising seniors). Speaks might be good enough for the NFL right now.

For "light penalties" from the NCAA, which I also thought, they sure are right on the edge of finding themselves totally f'd...
 

TheStateUofMS

All-Conference
Dec 26, 2009
10,498
2,500
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The NCAA knew the transfers would be the real penalty and I think they were ready to grant waivers to the 2016 class that was misled as well.

The NCAA knew what they were doing. If they had gone hard on scholly reductions, OM wouldn't be able to field a team.
 

bulldognation

All-Conference
Jan 26, 2004
3,827
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For a group that found its identity by counting recruiting stars, they will be wandering in the desert for a while.

Let's assume the current roster is the high-point for talent with the Luke era. They'll give Luke a pass on next year due to the bowl ban. It's the following year - 2019 - that they'll be really up in arms about if there isn't any improvement. With their current trajectory, these things don't turn on a dime either. So they'll be primed for some heppin' about that time. The NCAA needs to take note at about year 3 of the probation period.

The other hits are going to be the financial impact of losing out on bowl revenue. Couple that with lower ticket sales and less attendance, less commerce on game weekends and the next couple of years will be fun to watch them endure.
 
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She Mate Me

Heisman
Dec 7, 2008
15,449
15,139
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How key is it for us to have a nice season next year? It really could set us up to dominate the state for a decade.
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
61,295
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I don't think these transfers are going to hurt them too much from a scholarship standpoint. If this puts them at 56, they can sign 22 and still be at 78, only about 3 below their max for next year. Where this is going to hurt is, the guys transferring are the guys who were expected to step into starting roles in 2018 and/or 2019. With a poor 2017 recruiting class and a lot of ground to make up to get 2018 even up to average, that's going to impact them for a few years.
 

bulldognation

All-Conference
Jan 26, 2004
3,827
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A 9th straight bowl trip against their ban would be pretty good.

The frustration level would be glorious. Which is why I think come about the 3rd year of probation, the NCAA really ought to check back in down there in Oxford and see just how well behaved their boosters are by then. I'm sure the ego-battle will be more than they can stand in their quest to be key players in righting the ship once again. To see us bowling and winning in recruiting will surely push some of them over the edge. Then it's just a matter of time before some OM GOB gets sloppy with a transaction or two.
 

msstate7

Redshirt
Nov 27, 2008
10,388
10
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I don't think these transfers are going to hurt them too much from a scholarship standpoint. If this puts them at 56, they can sign 22 and still be at 78, only about 3 below their max for next year. Where this is going to hurt is, the guys transferring are the guys who were expected to step into starting roles in 2018 and/or 2019. With a poor 2017 recruiting class and a lot of ground to make up to get 2018 even up to average, that's going to impact them for a few years.

If they lose the 10 rumored in the other thread, they would lose 2 5*, 6 4*, and 2 3*. Now look at their recruiting class. You really think that losing those guys is no big deal?
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
61,295
32,991
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You misread my post. I said this wouldn't impact them much from a numbers standpoint only. They'll get back up close to their max under the sanctions.

Where this is going to hurt is, the guys transferring are the guys who were expected to step into starting roles in 2018 and/or 2019. With a poor 2017 recruiting class and a lot of ground to make up to get 2018 even up to average, that's going to impact them for a few years.​
 

MedDawg

All-Conference
May 29, 2001
5,568
1,128
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For a group that found its identity by counting recruiting stars, they will be wandering in the desert for a while.

Let's assume the current roster is the high-point for talent with the Luke era. They'll give Luke a pass on next year due to the bowl ban. It's the following year - 2019 - that they'll be really up in arms about if there isn't any improvement. With their current trajectory, these things don't turn on a dime either. So they'll be primed for some heppin' about that time. The NCAA needs to take note at about year 3 of the probation period.

The other hits are going to be the financial impact of losing out on bowl revenue. Couple that with lower ticket sales and less attendance, less commerce on game weekends and the next couple of years will be fun to watch them endure.

The gnashing of landshark teeth will be at its gnashingest on signing day 2019 if MSU signs the top Mississippians and they miss out.
 
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msstate7

Redshirt
Nov 27, 2008
10,388
10
38
You misread my post. I said this wouldn't impact them much from a numbers standpoint only. They'll get back up close to their max under the sanctions.

Reading comprehension isn’t my strong point. Responding before fully understanding what someone is saying is my strong point
 

patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
61,295
32,991
113
Responding before fully understanding what someone is saying is my strong point
Hell, that makes things more interesting anyway. Re-reading my original post, I could have done a better job of making it more clear.
 

engie

Sophomore
May 29, 2011
10,764
106
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They have to find 11 more warm bodies to sign...

Either way, 4 4*s gone to graduation, 7 4*s and 5*s already heavily in the transfer rumor mill, one or 2 4*s that could go pro...

Zero (thusfar) to replace them with in this class, along with the possibility to end up with zero last year as well with Breon Dixon rumored to transfer and the known deal with DD Bowie....
 

pDigital32Dawg

Freshman
Aug 29, 2009
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85
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The other hits are going to be the financial impact of losing out on bowl revenue. Couple that with lower ticket sales and less attendance, less commerce on game weekends and the next couple of years will be fun to watch them endure.

Just imagine how much cash their boosters will flood the recrooting market with after 2019. They will be primed to put themselves back on probation by 2022.
 
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