On the dumb baseball rules topic, I have one that was left out...
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My counter claim is that the stat does not include
any mention of momentum or a big inning (or harm done). It is simply a "run batted in." I'm sure there are cases in the annals of baseball history where that 1 run has won a game somewhere, so I believe it should count.
any mention of momentum or a big inning (or harm done). It is simply a "run batted in." I'm sure there are cases in the annals of baseball history where that 1 run has won a game somewhere, so I believe it should count.
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the team out of a big inning is a hypothetical. What is a fact, though, is that you drove a run in.
the team out of a big inning is a hypothetical. What is a fact, though, is that you drove a run in.
They don't subtract an RBI when a hitter hits into a dp with nobody on third. WHy subtract one when there is a run on third?
How about any "unwritten" rule
Since baseball has a billion of them. You think I watched my towering home run too long? How about throwing a pitch I can't knock out of the park instead of beaning me next time up.
Since baseball has a billion of them. You think I watched my towering home run too long? How about throwing a pitch I can't knock out of the park instead of beaning me next time up.
Never understood that one
Giving someone a free on-base seems like a reward, not a punishment, while also looking like a childish thing to do.
Giving someone a free on-base seems like a reward, not a punishment, while also looking like a childish thing to do.
Retaliation by actually hitting a guy should never be used unless it is absolutely necessary (and those instances are VERY rare... much more rare than most teams claim). Most teams college and above see retaliation by hitting a guy will see that as an award... I know I would.
If you traded 1 run, for two outs, you'd theoretically score 14 runs a game. Suppose instead, that you just trade the first two outs of an inning for 1 run, then you'd only score 9 runs a game. I'll take it.
It makes perfect sense. The strike out is recorded, regardless...
but no putout is recorded until the batter-runner is put out. If the catcher catches the pitch, the batter is put out... if the catcher drops the pitch, the batter-runner must be put out either by tag, a forceout at first, or by giving up and going to the dugout.
ETA: unless there is a runner on first with less than 2 outs.
but no putout is recorded until the batter-runner is put out. If the catcher catches the pitch, the batter is put out... if the catcher drops the pitch, the batter-runner must be put out either by tag, a forceout at first, or by giving up and going to the dugout.
ETA: unless there is a runner on first with less than 2 outs.
but the batter has done nothing to earn running the bases. he has not hit the ball , has not been hit by a pitch , has not drawn a walk , and has not put the ball in play. why should he be able to advance to first base.
Because he has to be put out. Why should the defense get a free pass from putting the batter-runner out because they didnt catch the ball? It's a rule that dates back to the beginning of baseball. It also forces the pitcher to make a decent pitch to put a batter out.
Someone posted a good history on this rule that's worth reading.
Someone posted a good history on this rule that's worth reading.
The run isnt being subtracted, it's just not being added
as an RBI for the batter who hit into a DP. I dont have a good explanation for this one but I think the spirit of the rule is what's already been mentioned which is if you cost your team 2/3 of your half of an inning in your 1 AB, then you arent awarded an RBI. I get it I guess but this is one of those that could go the other way and wouldnt bother me either.
as an RBI for the batter who hit into a DP. I dont have a good explanation for this one but I think the spirit of the rule is what's already been mentioned which is if you cost your team 2/3 of your half of an inning in your 1 AB, then you arent awarded an RBI. I get it I guess but this is one of those that could go the other way and wouldnt bother me either.
Because the fielders are not attempting to prevent the run from scoring...
It's understood that the fielders are conceding the run to get the double play. Otherwise the infielders would be playing in and attempting to make a play to the plate on a fielded ball. It is a form of fielder's indifference similar to when a battery makes no attempt to prevent a base runner from advancing and the runner is not credited with a stolen base.
It's understood that the fielders are conceding the run to get the double play. Otherwise the infielders would be playing in and attempting to make a play to the plate on a fielded ball. It is a form of fielder's indifference similar to when a battery makes no attempt to prevent a base runner from advancing and the runner is not credited with a stolen base.
Why does a batter get an RBI if he is walked with the bases loaded. This happened to CT in the CWS. A walk doesnt even count as an "at bat" so why in the world would it count for a "Run Batter In"?
That doesnt make since to me...An RBI walk...
Yes it does, by his very presence in the batters box and his decisions not to swing at balls results in a base on balls RBI. The only time an RBI is not credited to a batter putting the ball in play or reaching base and a runner scoring is if he hits into a DP, which makes no sense. There are probably hundreds of cases where that run has won a game, but no one got credit for batting it in.
ETA: a walk counts as an at-bat, it just doesn't count toward ones batting average. He still gets credited for reaching base.
ETA: a walk counts as an at-bat, it just doesn't count toward ones batting average. He still gets credited for reaching base.
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The third strike should be what puts him out.
Also, explain a foul bunt strikeout if a batter must be put out. You cant have it both ways.
Also, explain a foul bunt strikeout if a batter must be put out. You cant have it both ways.
Yeah, I'll quite trying to score if you do too. There are such things as comebacks. Also, just like Spurrier says, it's your job to stop us, not ours.
Actually, you can get a RBI on a double play. It just can't be a force or reverse-force DP. Let's say there are runners on 2nd and 3rd. The batter flies out to deep center field. First out. The runner on 3rd tags up and makes it home, but the runner on second was almost to 3rd and had to run back to second. The center fielder throws the ball to the second baseman who touches the bag before the runner can return. Second out. Batter gets credited with a RBI.
I'll agree that it isn't hard to bunt foul balls and think that is a good rule , but you have to admit it still debunks the notion that a batter has to be put out.
i guess it's all in how you look at it , you say why does the defense get a free pass by not putting him out. i say why does the batter get a free pass? at least the pitcher has thrown 3 strikes by the hitter , thats more than the batter has done. what has he done to advance other then strikeout?