One late night thought as your head hits the pillow

Greene Rice FIG

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Dec 30, 2005
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There is the “body of work” and there are teams with the same record and harder schedule that the experts have below us.

Are they going to take 11 B1G teams. Line up Michigans schedule with ours. Why should they get punished for their schedule? They have one less win then us and look at who they played while we played Coppin State and SacredHeart and Rider
 

Greene Rice FIG

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Dec 30, 2005
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Actually Michigan schedule isn’t great.

We still should need 2 more wins. If we only get 1 we would be 11-14 against real teams.
 

Scarlet Shack

Heisman
Feb 3, 2004
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15,604
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repeat after me....

body of work, body of work, body work

No one can take away the quality of wins you annexed

This x100000

Last night was 1/20 of the big ten schedule

As I said last night …how we manage the grind to have a bounce back of play level and enerhy is the key

This will determine if the skid stops heading out to Chicago
 

RUbacker

Heisman
Dec 5, 2014
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repeat after me....

body of work, body of work, body work

No one can take away the quality of wins you annexed
It doesn’t matter, we are a different team now since the injury. A 1 and 4 record, we no longer scare anyone, starters became soft and the bench has to play too many minutes . So our body of work may land us in a decent spot but our current team won’t be able to do anything with it.
 

biazza38

Heisman
Nov 18, 2012
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We know that.
But we still need to win a game or two and right now we’re one of the worst power 5 teams in the country
 

bac2therac

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There is the “body of work” and there are teams with the same record and harder schedule that the experts have below us.

Are they going to take 11 B1G teams. Line up Michigans schedule with ours. Why should they get punished for their schedule? They have one less win then us and look at who they played while we played Coppin State and SacredHeart and Rider

No one has a win at Purdue
 
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bac2therac

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There is the “body of work” and there are teams with the same record and harder schedule that the experts have below us.

Are they going to take 11 B1G teams. Line up Michigans schedule with ours. Why should they get punished for their schedule? They have one less win then us and look at who they played while we played Coppin State and SacredHeart and Rider

Michigan is likely to lose 2 of next 3
 

bac2therac

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We lost to Temple, Miami, and Seton Hall. That hurt our cause. If you want to add tougher games just know you're likely adding more losses.

The 308 non conference sos is one of the worst youll find. I think Texas Tech also has a plus 300. Its one of those stats that usually will not matter but if its there it can be pointed to

Fact is RU lost to 2 non ncaa tourney schools. Wake the best win. Injuries in one but no excuse in the other. And it was dreg city after that. Remember when people that Rutgers would be Lowell's only lose.

The one consistent is Pikes teams have mediocre to poor non conference resumes sos and usually results wise
 
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Greene Rice FIG

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No one has a win at Purdue
I know that you know that I know that you know how it works.

I say it every year and I will say it every year that I am alive. It is flat out wrong, IMO, to overweight who you beat.

In my world what is your schedule and what is your record. Losing to Temple and beating Purdue is 1-1. Beating Purdue and losing to Temple is 1-1.
 
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy

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repeat after me....

body of work, body of work, body work

No one can take away the quality of wins you annexed
Yup. Now had we not pulled the rabbit out of the hat @ mackey wed be on the outside looking in at the moment. Thats how big that win was.

The bubble is also the weakest I can remember it in recent years. Imo, if we simply take care of business @ minny and dont get embarrassed round 1 of the b1g tourney then were in. It may be dayton, but were in
 

biazza38

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I know that you know that I know that you know how it works.

I say it every year and I will say it every year that I am alive. It is flat out wrong, IMO, to overweight who you beat.

In my world what is your schedule and what is your record. Losing to Temple and beating Purdue is 1-1. Beating Purdue and losing to Temple is 1-1.
It’s a good thing the committee doesn’t look at it that way
 

bac2therac

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I know that you know that I know that you know how it works.

I say it every year and I will say it every year that I am alive. It is flat out wrong, IMO, to overweight who you beat.

In my world what is your schedule and what is your record. Losing to Temple and beating Purdue is 1-1. Beating Purdue and losing to Temple is 1-1.

Injuries for Temple

Plus we didnt lose at 372 East Bumblebee A&M
 

kcg88

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Aug 11, 2017
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The 308 non conference sos is one of the worst youll find. I think Texas Tech also has a plus 300. Its one of those stats that usually will not matter but if its there it can be pointed to

Fact is RU lost to 2 non ncaa tourney schools. Wake the best win. Injuries in one but no excuse in the other. And it was dreg city after that. Remember when people that Rutgers would be Lowell's only lose.

The one consistent is Pikes teams have mediocre to poor non conference resumes sos and usually results wise
What good is having the 150th non-conference SOS if we go 6-5 against it? It's far better to go 9-2 (or even 8-3) against the 300th SOS.
 

bac2therac

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What good is having the 150th non-conference SOS if we go 6-5 against it? It's far better to go 9-2 (or even 8-3) against the 300th SOS.

The Temple scheduling is pointless. Who schedules a Mohegan Sun stand alone game against a mid to bottom tier AAC school. We have had worthless series before with UMass

There are people schools consult with to work with on scheduling
 

bethlehemfan

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Sep 6, 2003
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The Temple scheduling is pointless. Who schedules a Mohegan Sun stand alone game against a mid to bottom tier AAC school. We have had worthless series before with UMass

There are people schools consult with to work with on scheduling
That was definitely super dumb
 

biazza38

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Nov 18, 2012
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The Temple scheduling is pointless. Who schedules a Mohegan Sun stand alone game against a mid to bottom tier AAC school. We have had worthless series before with UMass

There are people schools consult with to work with on scheduling
Agree 1000% here. But if I remember correctly, we were supposed to play someone else that backed out during negotiations. I could be totally wrong though.
 

kcg88

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The Temple scheduling is pointless. Who schedules a Mohegan Sun stand alone game against a mid to bottom tier AAC school. We have had worthless series before with UMass

There are people schools consult with to work with on scheduling
I don't think it was a bad idea to try to pad our road/neutral record with a team like that. The far bigger issue is the fact we're losing to Temple or St. Bonaventure or Fordham or UMass... Just win the freaking games and this is a non-issue.

Yes it'd be better to lose to Gonzaga than lose to Temple but the schedule was not our problem this year. Losing a neutral game to Temple and home games to bubble-or-worse Seton Hall, Nebraska, and Michigan is our problem.
 

bac2therac

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Agree 1000% here. But if I remember correctly, we were supposed to play someone else that backed out during negotiations. I could be totally wrong though.

Notre Dame which would have been a worse idea since they were expected to be way down.
 
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bac2therac

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I don't think it was a bad idea to try to pad our road/neutral record with a team like that. The far bigger issue is the fact we're losing to Temple or St. Bonaventure or Fordham or UMass... Just win the freaking games and this is a non-issue.

Yes it'd be better to lose to Gonzaga than lose to Temple but the schedule was not our problem this year. Losing a neutral game to Temple and home games to bubble-or-worse Seton Hall, Nebraska, and Michigan is our problem.

Why can't we play 2-3 game neutral site tourneys like everyone else
 

RUJMM78

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Jul 25, 2001
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This x100000

Last night was 1/20 of the big ten schedule

As I said last night …how we manage the grind to have a bounce back of play level and enerhy is the key

This will determine if the skid stops heading out to Chicago
Rutgers is competing against league rivals and other teams for a limited number of NCAA bids.How teams perform at the end of the season matters.The positive media attention towards Rutgers is waning at thr wrong possible time.
 

Scarlet Blind_rivals

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Aug 5, 2001
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Houston 10-0, UCLA 6-0, Tennessee 6-0, Purdue 5-0
St Mary's 5-0, UConn 6-0, Texas 7-0, Gonzaga 7-0
Arizona 8-0, Baylor 7-0, Marquette 7-0, Iowa St 7-0
Kansas St 7-0, Indiana 6-0, Virginia 8-0, Texas A&M 7-2
Maryland 8-0, Boise St 6-0, TCU 7-1, WVU 6-0

Rutgers 7-0 Quad 4 and their scheduling is not the problem.
9-22 shooting 5 feet in was the problem last night and has been a problem in many losses.
 

knight82

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Nov 4, 2002
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Penn State is the key. Northwestern is going to be difficult and who knows who we get in the BTT. I'm thinking we still beat Minnesota, even as bad as we're playing its still not as bad as them. Also think that just one more win puts us back in Dayton
 
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ScarletDave

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Penn State is the key. Northwestern is going to be difficult and who knows who we get in the BTT. I'm thinking we still beat Minnesota, even as bad as we're playing its still not as bad as them. Also think that just one more win puts us back in Dayton
This. Just Minn puts us in Dayton. Get any other win to keep us out. PSU, NW, or B1Gs
 

RUsojo

Heisman
Dec 17, 2010
28,405
27,180
113
Michigan is likely to lose 2 of next 3
Here we go again with unsubstantiated “so and so is likely to w/l x” comments.

People were saying this stuff about RU the last 10 days.

The reality is this conference is you are not “likely” to go 2-1 in any 3 game stretch unless you’re playing Minny in it. Maybe add Ohio St bc they are worse than their metrics imo.

Most of these win probabilities are between 40-60%.