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Alexander33

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It is looking increasingly likely that there will be a 2020 season, so it's not too early to post a preseason top 20.
1. Lincoln-Way East
2. Nazareth
3. Loyola
4. Mt. Carmel
5. East St. Louis
6. Marist
7. Rochester
8. Batavia
9. Prairie Ridge
10. Maine South
11. IC Catholic
12. Glenbard West
13. Phillips
14. Brother Rice
15. Cary-Grove
16. Montini
17. Richmond-Burton
18. Williamsville
19. Gibson City
20. Lena-Winslow
The ranking has been edited on June 28th in the following manner: Marist and Rochester have been flipped so now Marist is 6th and Rochester is 7th. Phillips has been moved from 10th to 13th and Maine South moved up from 12th to 10th. Glenbard West has been moved up from 16th to 12th. Cary-Grove has been moved from 13th to 15th and Montini from 14th to 16th. And finally, Richmond-Burton has been moved from 15 to 17, Benet dropped from the top 20, and Brother Rice moved in at number 14.
 
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Alexander32 said:
It is looking increasingly likely that there will be a 2020 season, so it's not too early to post a preseason top 20.
1. Lincoln-Way East
2. Nazareth
3. Loyola
4. Mt. Carmel
5. East St. Louis
6. Rochester
7. Marist
8. Batavia
9. Prairie Ridge
10. Phillips
11. IC Catholic
12. Maine South
13. Cary-Grove
14. Montini
15. Richmond-Burton
16. Glenbard West
17. Benet
18. Williamsville
19. Gibson City
20. Lena-Winslow
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6. Rochester?
15. Richmond-Burton
18. Williamsville
19. Gibson City
20. Lena-Winslow

Ummmm .... Did JCA decide not to field a team? Or Edwardsville? Or countless others?

Please try again.


 
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crusader_of_90 said:
6. Rochester?
15. Richmond-Burton
18. Williamsville
19. Gibson City
20. Lena-Winslow

Ummmm .... Did JCA decide not to field a team? Or Edwardsville? Or countless others?

Please try again.
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For the sake of representation I reserved at least one slot for each of the eight classes, and therefore slots 18, 19 and 20 were reserved for the best teams (in my opinion) in classes 3A, 2A and 1A. I acknowledge there are other teams in the state that will be better than them. However, I think any of the teams in my top 17 are better than Joliet Catholic and Edwardsville (although I admit I may be stretching a bit with Benet). I would take 5A Rochester straight up over 8A Edwardsville if they were to play this year, which they won't.
 
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crusader_of_90 said:
6. Rochester?
15. Richmond-Burton
18. Williamsville
19. Gibson City
20. Lena-Winslow

Ummmm .... Did JCA decide not to field a team? Or Edwardsville? Or countless others?

Please try again.
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Just for the record, at the end of last season CalPreps had Rochester as the 8th best team in the state, Edwardsville 27th, and Joliet Catholic 41st.
 
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Alexander32 said:
It is looking increasingly likely that there will be a 2020 season, so it's not too early to post a preseason top 20.
1. Lincoln-Way East
2. Nazareth
3. Loyola
4. Mt. Carmel
5. East St. Louis
6. Rochester
7. Marist
8. Batavia
9. Prairie Ridge
10. Phillips
11. IC Catholic
12. Maine South
13. Cary-Grove
14. Montini
15. Richmond-Burton
16. Glenbard West
17. Benet
18. Williamsville
19. Gibson City
20. Lena-Winslow
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Naz No.2? Did JJ come back?
 
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Alexander32 said:
It is looking increasingly likely that there will be a 2020 season, so it's not too early to post a preseason top 20.
1. Lincoln-Way East
2. Nazareth
3. Loyola
4. Mt. Carmel
5. East St. Louis
6. Rochester
7. Marist
8. Batavia
9. Prairie Ridge
10. Phillips
11. IC Catholic
12. Maine South
13. Cary-Grove
14. Montini
15. Richmond-Burton
16. Glenbard West
17. Benet
18. Williamsville
19. Gibson City
20. Lena-Winslow
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I just can’t picture Naz that high after losing what they lost. I think I would put ESL and then MC at the top.
 
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LakeCtyNewt said:
Naz No.2? Did JJ come back?
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I know we can squabble about this all day long and THIS IN NO WAY DOWN PLAYS THE IMPACT OF JJ but Naz was a powerhouse before JJ and was in 3 state title games before JJ. JJ made them more dominant no doubt. But now a game that may be 59-6 with JJ is only a 27-12 game without JJ but it doesn’t mean they can’t be successful. There are plenty of other teams who are powerhouses around the state and JJ wasn’t on any of their teams. Minus JJ is definitely a subtraction but IF (all capital I-F) they keep those who have not yet left they can still be a powerhouse just by a smaller margin.
 
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More like:

1. Mt. Carmel
2. East St. Louis
3. Lincoln-Way East
4. Loyola
5. Nazareth
6. Warren
7. Maine South
8. Glenbard West
9. Marist
10. (No particular order) St. Rita, Prairie Ridge, Rochester, Batavia, Joliet Catholic, Cary-Grove, IC Catholic, Phillips, Bolingbrook, Montini, Oswego, Richmond-Burton.

EDITED: to add St. Rita, Bolingbrook & Oswego. (6/17 @ 7:45pm) There are probably a couple more missing also.
 
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LakeCtyNewt said:
Naz No.2? Did JJ come back?
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I'm going to reveal how old I am by making this comment, but I'm looking for the University of Tennessee effect. They won the national championship the year after Peyton Manning graduated.
Nazareth has a lot of other weapons and it's possible they were relying on the quarterback too much last year. I mean that in the following sense. JJ could make all the throws and consequently they liked to push the ball down the field with the vertical passing game. That made sense except it didn't seem they had the offensive line to do it successfully against the very best competition. They might have had more success against Mt. Carmel if they could have gotten the ball to their play-makers more quickly (thereby avoiding the pass rush) and allowing their athletes to make plays on the perimeter. One can't argue with their head coach's success so even I don't put too much weight on my opinion. As the title of the thread says, it is just "One man's opinion". I think they can rebound with a title this year, but I acknowledge Mt. Carmel should be very, very good.
 
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Alexander32 said:
I'm going to reveal how old I am by making this comment, but I'm looking for the University of Tennessee effect. They won the national championship the year after Peyton Manning graduated.
Nazareth has a lot of other weapons and it's possible they were relying on the quarterback too much last year. I mean that in the following sense. JJ could make all the throws and consequently they liked to push the ball down the field with the vertical passing game. That made sense except it didn't seem they had the offensive line to do it successfully against the very best competition. They might have had more success against Mt. Carmel if they could have gotten the ball to their play-makers more quickly (thereby avoiding the pass rush) and allowing their athletes to make plays on the perimeter. One can't argue with their head coach's success so even I don't put too much weight on my opinion. As the title of the thread says, it is just "One man's opinion". I think they can rebound with a title this year, but I acknowledge Mt. Carmel should be very, very good.
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I know they are a year older, but they have basically the same line this season.
 
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Kevin JCHS 81 said:
More like:

1. Mt. Carmel
2. East St. Louis
3. Lincoln-Way East
4. Loyola
5. Nazareth
6. Warren
7. Maine South
8. Glenbard West
9. Marist
10. (No particular order) Prairie Ridge, Rochester, Batavia, Joliet Catholic, Cary-Grove, IC Catholic, Phillips, Montini, Richmond-Burton.
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Maine South at 7 seems lofty.
 
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Alexander32 said:
I'm going to reveal how old I am by making this comment, but I'm looking for the University of Tennessee effect. They won the national championship the year after Peyton Manning graduated.
Nazareth has a lot of other weapons and it's possible they were relying on the quarterback too much last year. I mean that in the following sense. JJ could make all the throws and consequently they liked to push the ball down the field with the vertical passing game. That made sense except it didn't seem they had the offensive line to do it successfully against the very best competition. They might have had more success against Mt. Carmel if they could have gotten the ball to their play-makers more quickly (thereby avoiding the pass rush) and allowing their athletes to make plays on the perimeter. One can't argue with their head coach's success so even I don't put too much weight on my opinion. As the title of the thread says, it is just "One man's opinion". I think they can rebound with a title this year, but I acknowledge Mt. Carmel should be very, very good.
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Who did they not successfully push the ball down the field against other than Mt Carmel and the cowboys o line could have given JJ 10 minutes per snap that night and he wasn’t going to complete a pass over 5 yards in that rain blizzard.
 
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I’m a Rochester homer, but #6 is overly generous. They are returning only 4 starters on Offense and 3 on Defense. Beatty and Durocher are great skill guys and scoring points shouldn’t be the issue. However, both the OL and DL will be almost completely new. New guys will step up but it will take time. At SHG week 3, Rochester will be the definite underdog, playing where they’ve never won and facing an experienced team lead by a senior class that is Ken Leonard’s strongest in years. Hoping for a return to 4a in the playoffs.
 
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As a CG homer I’ve got nothing on what they have coming back. Probably the most I’ve been out of the loop in years. But 13 seems generous.
 
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Alexander32 said:
It is looking increasingly likely that there will be a 2020 season, so it's not too early to post a preseason top 20.
1. Lincoln-Way East
2. Nazareth
3. Loyola
4. Mt. Carmel
5. East St. Louis
6. Rochester
7. Marist
8. Batavia
9. Prairie Ridge
10. Phillips
11. IC Catholic
12. Maine South
13. Cary-Grove
14. Montini
15. Richmond-Burton
16. Glenbard West
17. Benet
18. Williamsville
19. Gibson City
20. Lena-Winslow
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Hey Alex, not Great Prognostications, but Great thread!

We talking football, Baby! I hope it happens!!!
 
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Any specifics on the high expectations for LWE, aside from the obvious of past performances? I believe their running game is to be most promising and they should have the ability to line-up a sound plus solid defense as usual. The above plus their customary depth should make them part of the conversation, but anything else we should know?
 
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johnndoe said:
Any specifics on the high expectations for LWE, aside from the obvious of past performances? I believe their running game is to be most promising and they should have the ability to line-up a sound plus solid defense as usual. The above plus their customary depth should make them part of the conversation, but anything else we should know?
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New QB is from Ottawa - transfer
 
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