One more Stricklin thread...

[dawgstudent]

If his ultimate goal is to be SEC commish - he doesn't have much time unless Sankey retires early. Sankey is 50. Stricklin is 46.

So if he left State without an ulterior motive like becoming SEC commish - then that stings a bit more.

 

[Mafiadawg]

Yea its not like Sankey has been doing it a while either. He just started, has kids in college, etc. SS didn't leave for money either it appears. It sucks and he sucks.

 

[CuzDawg]

Like I've said. Hypocrite. That's just a damage control message to make alumni feel better.

 

[GeneFrenkle]

Yeah, I don't know why anyone would take a job in the same field with more responsibility and national prestige.

 

[DerHntr]

This will be an unpopular hot take:

He was offered a job that pays him significanlty more, at an outstanding institution, and in a great location. In the world of athletics, it is a prestigious step up from MSU (as much as we don't want to admit it) and it is a very big new challenge for a successful person. He started at MSU and has worked for Auburn, Tulane, Baylor, and Kentucky. Why must his end game be a position as AD at MSU for 25 years? Just because someone becomes a university administrator at their alma mater doesn't mean they have to give back to their university forever.

 

[DancingRabbit]

Et tu canis scolasticus?

If his ultimate goal is to be SEC commish - he doesn't have much time unless Sankey retires early. Sankey is 50. Stricklin is 46.

So if he left State without an ulterior motive like becoming SEC commish - then that stings a bit more.

He left to manage a top 5 athletic program and earn double the money, up to triple the money with incentives.

I'm disappointed he's leaving, but wish him the best. I appreciate what he's done for State, unlike many here.

 

[Bulldogg31]

Like I've said. Hypocrite. That's just a damage control message to make alumni feel better.

A hypocrite? Did he ever tell anyone not to leave for a better job and more money? I don't remember that.

 

[gymdawg.sixpack]

May all be true. But none of it means i have to respect the man. 17 him!

 

[Shmuley]

Strickland. *

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

I don't understand how people can't grasp that it's a more prestigious job with better pay. Some people need to rake the sand out of their ******.

 

[Mafiadawg]

Everyone's more money theory has been proven wrong but y'all keep throwing that out there. He was making $750 here. Went to make a million there. I have no doubt we matched it and keenum wasn't going to lose him for money.

 

[DerHntr]

Everyone's more money theory has been proven wrong but y'all keep throwing that out there. He was making $750 here. Went to make a million there. I have no doubt we matched it and keenum wasn't going to lose him for money.

I think the CL was wrong in that article. Every where else was saying 500k max for 2016. Here is an NCAA report for 2013. Do you think he negotiated a 50% raise in those 3 years? He may have but I doubt it. Also, notice what school is #3 on the list.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/all/director

If on a mobile, you have scroll to the right for $ info.

 

[bulldogbaja]

Come on man... I love MSU, I went to school here and I work here, but if someone offered to add a MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR to my salary, I would be gone in a heartbeat. So would you.

 

[GeneFrenkle]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have yet to read Keenun or Stricklin address their conversation(s). Therefore, unless present, no one really knows how that went. Also, Florida's athletic program has more varsity sports, a bigger budget, and multiple national championships. My point is, maybe it wasn't all about the money. Do I wish he would've stayed? Absolutely. However, I'm not going to hate on someone for doing what's best for him and his family.

 

[patdog]

Whether he winds up with the commissioner job or not, he's close to tripled his salary and is at one of the premier athletic departments in the country. Can't fault him for that.

 

[rem101]

From what I've heard, he does want to end up in the SEC office. Not sure if he'll be commissioner or not, but I'm sure that's the ultimate goal.

 

[The Peeper]

Ian Cohen covers the Gators for the Orlando Sentinel paper. He tweeted that the terms are $500k base salary for 6 yrs, $150k signing bonus and assuming ALL incentives are met top end salary would be $1.076 M. So salary wise its the same but could double if incentives are met. You can spread the signing bonus over 6 years and say another $25k/yr in salary. Sounds like he's putting a raise on the shoulders of a bunch of 18-22 yr old kids

 

[00Dawg]

Well, that's disappointing.

ETA: NM. That source was obviously wrong.

 

[DerHntr]

I have to think we'd be willing to match (or at least come close) an incentive-laden contract for the #1 AD, which means this was all about a career move. Ergo, Scott was never in his dream job to start with.
If he ends up as a friend in the SEC office, I'll be happy to take his support. Otherwise: bye, Felicia.

What's funny is dreams have a tendency to change once you achieve them. He was barely mid career when he got the MSU job. A lot of people reassess their abilities/performance and raise the bar at that point.

 

[patdog]

Most of the incentives are pretty easy to meet. $750,000 is just retention bonuses, so all he has to do is not quit to get those.

 

[dawgstudent]

It's definitely more prestigious but if there was one guy who I thought we could keep for a lateral move - it was an alum like Stricklin. Now you can definitely argue that being AD at Florida is not a lateral move but he's still an AD in the SEC.

And let me add - I'm not faulting Stricklin for the move if the end goal is to go higher than Florida. But if his career stops at Florida - like I said - as a State fan - it stings a little more.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

I've been to Gainesville multiple times, not sure I'd agree with it being better as a city.

 

[dawgstudent]

I as well was not a fan of Gainesville.

 

[DancingRabbit]

That's wrong. Annual salary of $1.08M for six years, plus incentives.

GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- Florida announced the contract details for new athletics director Scott Stricklin, whose hire was unanimously approved by the University Athletic Association board on Tuesday morning.

Stricklin will make an annual salary of $1.08 million over six years, with incentives that could elevate his pay to $1.28 million per year.

The new Florida athletics director received a $150,000 signing bonus and will receive retention bonuses of $250,000 on Oct. 31 in 2018, 2020 and 2022. He also has performance bonuses in the contract worth up to $200,000 annually, though Florida did not specify the criteria for meeting those bonuses in a release to the media.

Ian Cohen covers the Gators for the Orlando Sentinel paper. He tweeted that the terms are $500k base salary for 6 yrs, $150k signing bonus and assuming ALL incentives are met top end salary would be $1.076 M. So salary wise its the same but could double if incentives are met. You can spread the signing bonus over 6 years and say another $25k/yr in salary. Sounds like he's putting a raise on the shoulders of a bunch of 18-22 yr old kids

 

[wayneland5025]

Yea its not like Sankey has been doing it a while either. He just started, has kids in college, etc. SS didn't leave for money either it appears. It sucks and he sucks.

How do we know he didnt leave for money. The only place I have ever seen his MSU salary as being a million dollars was the Clarion Ledger . Do you have verification of this? USA reported in a 2013 listing that his salary was less than $500,000 including all sources and I do not believe that we doubled it in the past 3 years.

 

[FlotownDawg]

Come on. I love MSU as much as the next guy but MSU to UF is not a lateral move

Florida has a bigger athletic budget, more sports, they are paying him a much higher salary, and he has a chance to be the athletic director at a school that can win national championships in multiple sports. MSU has never won a national championship in ANY sport. Florida probably has more national championships than we have SEC championships. I don't blame Scott at all for making the move to Florida. It's not like he left us for West Virginia or something. Florida is a premier athletic department.

 

[dawgstudent]

Let's not act like he went from the #90 AD job in America to the #2 or #3. State is now a top 25 AD job b/c of the money.

 

[codeDawg]

Most people don't want to do almost the exact same thing in the exact same place for their entire lives.

If people are "graduating" from MSU, we should consider it a complement and always plan on replacing successful people with bright people with a lot of potential. When people don't leave, that's when we have a problem.

 

[patdog]

So he moved from a #20-#25 job to a #2-#3 job and at least doubled his salary. That's pretty much a no-brainer, even if you are an alumnus.

 

[dawgstudent]

I guarantee you his salary in the end was not doubled. I think State was willing to pay.

And let me reiterate - I don't necessarily fault Stricklin. Just if he stays at UF for a long period of time and never moves up - it stings more losing an alumnus of the university.

 

[patdog]

He more than doubles what he was making. Easily. No doubt we would have paid him more, but no way we got anywhere near what UF was offering. I hate it, and it does sting. But I'd have done the same thing, I bet you would too.

 

[RocketDawg]

I as well was not a fan of Gainesville.

Better than Oxford, Tuscaloosa, possibly Knoxville but not nearly as good as Athens.

 

[KurtRambis4]

Gainesville was probably the worst

SEC road trip I went on, when in school...AU & UT being the only one that I didn't go to.

 

[DerHntr]

SEC road trip I went on, when in school...AU & UT being the only one that I didn't go to.

From the standpoint of a 21 year old is different than from a 46 year old parent. Would Gainesville be better than Starkville on a lot of important metrics as a middle aged person with children?

I'd have to say, yeah. (ETA: for me personally. I don't know for Stricklin but I can definitely see the positives that a 21 year old may not care about).

 

[codeDawg]

He's going to a school that won both football and basketball national championships in the same year a decade ago, we don't have either ever. In 2015, Florida had the #6 athletics budget in the country, we were #45. The National Association of Collegiate Athletic Directors ranks Florida as the #21 school for all sports, and we are #58.

Don't feel so bad. It's a big step up.

 

[dawgstudent]

As an AD - you aren't getting fired if the women's gymnastics program suffers.

You are getting fired if football or men's basketball tanks repeatedly, NCAA sanctions, or fundraising sucks.

 

[MaroonNation]

It's not that much better than Starkville. As a matter of fact Stricklin will have to contend with bitches with daddy issues off every exit of I75/I10 between Tallahassee and Gainesville and all the way to Orlando.

 

[EurekaDog]

Now, we'll see if the next AD can springboard off of Byrne & Stricklin's...

successes. New blood can be good... different outlook, new ideas, etc.

 

[Strike.sixpack]

Let's not act like he went from the #90 AD job in America to the #2 or #3. State is now a top 25 AD job b/c of the money.

Well last year we were 45th. If the numbers are accurate for this year it would put us at 32nd using the budgets from last year. Still a top job but not Top 25 yet.

 

[thekimmer]

Its the difference between a fan's and a professional's persepective

If his ultimate goal is to be SEC commish - he doesn't have much time unless Sankey retires early. Sankey is 50. Stricklin is 46.

So if he left State without an ulterior motive like becoming SEC commish - then that stings a bit more.

We fans have our school, will never change and might even be repulsed by the notion. People who do this as a profession have a different perspective and rightfully so. It is entirely reasonable for someone in a given field with a healthy amount of ambition to seek professional advancement. That quite often means picking up and moving somewhere else. Most of us have done it at some time or other. This is clearly a step up that we could not give him for any amount of money. It appears he was quite torn because he does have deep roots at State and family ties as well. Without that he would have been gone so fast it would take your breath away because it really is a fantastic opportunity for someone in his position.

Looking at it from a fans perspective its hard to understand but from a professional's perspective I must respect his decision. He is not a hypocrite, traitor, or any thing like that. I do hope though that we whip their butts every time we play them.