One of my main problems with Ricky is on display tonight...

[Coach34]

CowStanza likes to always say the rest of the SEC plays a weak pre-SEC schedule- not just Ricky.

UPig is on ESPN2, playing the number 7 team in the nation- fresh off their beating of the number 4 team in the nation

UPig has 5 new starters this season.

No reason for us not to play a national schedule worthy of the "SEC's 4th best in conference wins"

 

[Coach34]

CowStanza likes to always say the rest of the SEC plays a weak pre-SEC schedule- not just Ricky.

UPig is on ESPN2, playing the number 7 team in the nation- fresh off their beating of the number 4 team in the nation

UPig has 5 new starters this season.

No reason for us not to play a national schedule worthy of the "SEC's 4th best in conference wins"

 

[Coach34]

CowStanza likes to always say the rest of the SEC plays a weak pre-SEC schedule- not just Ricky.

UPig is on ESPN2, playing the number 7 team in the nation- fresh off their beating of the number 4 team in the nation

UPig has 5 new starters this season.

No reason for us not to play a national schedule worthy of the "SEC's 4th best in conference wins"

 

[HD6]

like California-Davis, North Carolina Central, and Missouri State, who they lost to. We played in a tournament that includes the current number 1 team in the nation, we just didn't play them because we lost the opening round game.

As of this moment in time, Arkansas' strength of schedule is 3.99 points better than ours. Now that's a lot of gap in the ratings because they go out to the hundredth of a point, but in reality it will all balance out in the end when we get through the conference. This particular link shows us actually finishing the season with higher SOS than Arkansas.

</a><a href="http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/sports/cbsend.htm">http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/sports/cbsend.htm

 

[Coach34]

the publicity from these games trump maybe a little more even schedule that we play. We just arent going to get the same pub playing Xavier, Clemson, and George Mason. Big name teams have been few and far between on our schedule

 

[SnakePlissken]

nt

 

[wpnetdawg]

I would like to see us play a really big-name school here and there.

I will disagree with the points you have made in the past that a weak OOC schedule is the reason for Stansbury's inflated win totals when, in fact, mathematically our collection of team in the upper tiers of mid-majors typically balances everything out and makes our OOC comparable to the rest of the conference (save for a team or two).

 

[Xenomorph]

...give us the time of day if we approached them for a home/home?

 

[Coach34]

...give us the time of day if we approached them for a home/home?

we have had a home and home with them...we need more of these types of games...thats the whole point of the thread Socrates

 

[wpnetdawg]

ago. I would think they still would.

I don't know if Texas would or not.

 

[Xenomorph]

...and also.. You're so damn quick to get your panties in a wad. I simply asked a question to further the discussion and express my doubt that they'd come. If you're as much of a douche bag in real life as you portray on this board, I bet you haven't got one goddamned friend.

 

[Coach34]

I would like to see us play a really big-name school here and there.

I will disagree with the points you have made in the past that a weak OOC schedule is the reason for Stansbury's inflated win totals when, in fact, mathematically our collection of team in the upper tiers of mid-majors typically balances everything out and makes our OOC comparable to the rest of the conference (save for a team or two).

Here are his 21 BCS and other notable wins:

Xavier - (3)</p>

UAB - (2)</p>

Charlotte - (2)</p>

Arizona</p>

Oklahoma</p>

Stanford</p>

VA Tech</p>

George Mason</p>

Bradley</p>

Miami</p>

Florida State</p>

Missouri</p>

Oregon</p>

USM</p>

Pitt

Houston

W. Kentucky

21-24 against BCS conference or other teams of note...That just cant be defended</p>

 

[Coach34]

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[wpnetdawg]

In the 1995-1996 season, we won at Norman 76-71.

 

[wpnetdawg]

nm

 

[Columbus Dawg]

The biggest problems with our schedule is playing teams 250 and below RPI-wise like Fairleigh Dickinson and Alabama St. It's hard to predict who is going to be where, but a lot of times schedule strength and RPI comes down to playing teams in the 150 range as opposed to 250.

 

[Coach34]

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[wpnetdawg]

Please don't make me re-post all those statistics posts I have made to refute that. I have made several posts -- all of which you've avoided as if they were the plague. Perhaps it is because you don't think you can do better than one poster's (and I'll leave him nameless) "Basketball is not played on computers" line last week when facing the weight of all mathematics proving him wrong.

It's probably been a week or week-and-a-half ago, but look at the one I posted about the margin between playing two "major" opponents and not playing these opponents, it would be at most 1.2 wins per season. This would be on the extreme side making virtually any and all concessions to the anti-Stansbury crowd. A difference this wide would be mathematically unlikely to sustain itself over a decade.

In response to your question, I'll make several points.
1) I have no way to know the extent to which they were hand picked.
2) Even if accepted at face value, the results must not be too bad because other SEC teams playing comparable schedules are winning fewer games.
3) Even if other SEC teams are winning a higher percentage of their OOC games than we are, we are more than making up for it in conference play.

These points combined say a lot about looking at performance as a body of work. Sure, I would like to play power schools and never lose to Charlotte and in these individual instances, Stansbury has been deficient. However, the body or work is there. The overall package is there.

 

[Xenomorph]

The Sooners play 3 true road games prior to their Big 12 schedule: at Rice, at Tulsa, at Arkansas. Tulsa and Arkansas are obvious choices and Rice at least brings the Houston metro area to the table.

Texas only plays 2... at Wisconsin and at Arkansas. .......Again, not exactly like Mississippi State in Starkville, MS.

So I'm sticking to what I believe and that's that a Top 25 basketball team isn't freely going out on the limb of coming to the Hump and risking a pre-conference loss.

 

[drunkernhelldawg]

I'd like to play a stronger, more interesting pre-conference schedule. But Arkansas/Texas is a very natural matchup. It doesn't really support your point about our Coach, who probably does not go by a child's name.

 

[Coach34]

his losing record against BCS and other notable teams. That cant be refuted. 21-25

 

[MSUCostanza]

Florida - a national power - has played Toledo, Bradley, Southern Utah, Longwood College, Mo-KC, Stetson, Fla Gulf Coast, Fla A&M and Ga Southern so far.

Kentucky - an alleged national power - has played VMI, Delaware State, the popular Longwood College, Lamar, Valley, App State, Tenn State, Fla Atlantic and CMU.

Tennessee - a national power - has played Chattanooga, UT Martin, MTSU, Siena, NC Asheville, Belmont, UL-Lafayette.

Vandy has played Morehead State, Ill-Chicago, Cent Arkansas, MTSU, Ala A&M, Tenn Tech, Furman, St. Francis and a ****** UMass.

UGA has played a murderous schedule. They've taken on SC-Upstate, Loyola, EMU, Presbyterian, Valley, W Illinois, Wofford, NC A&T, A&M-CC, Kennesaw State.

Carolina - Jacksonville St, SC-Upstate, G-Webb, Charleston, Princeton, Furman, NC Central, Citadel, Presbyterian, Wofford

LSU is on the SWAC tour - JSU, Grambling and Alcorn. Plus, NW State, Centenary, Troy, Cal-Fullerton, Nicholls State, McNeese, SELA and LA-Lafayette. At least they are keeping the $ in-state.

Auburn - Missouri State, Mercer (L), Bethune Cookman, Tuskegee - D2, Ala State, Ala A&M, SELA, Tulane, LA-Monroe. I'm not even counting Drake and N Iowa.

Alabama - Mercer, FL A&M, Ala A&M, LA-Lafayette, Tenn State, Chattanooga, Yale, Quincy (WTF?)

Ole Miss - Ark State, USA, Morgan State, Ala State, FL A&M, Nicholls, USM, Marshall, UNO

Now shut the 17 up about our "weak" schedule. We all do it, and now I've proven it you stupid sack of ****.

How about some other examples?

Memphis - who makes a big deal about their "national" schedule - has managed to squeeze in riveting contests against Fairfield, Chattanooga, Marist, Northeastern, UALR and Drexel.

Duke? Presbyterian, GA Southern, Rhode Island, Montana, Duquesne, Loyola (MD), UNC Asheville.

North Carolina? Penn, USCB, UNC Asheville, Oral Roberts, Evansville, Rutgers, Valpo, Nevada, Charleston.

How about #1 Pitt? Fair. Dickinson, Akron, Miami OH, Indiana (PA), Belmont, Duquesne, Vermont, UMBC, Siena

My fingers are getting tired.

 

[SanfordRJones]

I've never understood why we don't play Memphis every year. Memphis is an easy 3 hours away (might be less... I haven't made that drive in over 10 years) and we have a lot of alumni in that area. Plus, they are almost always one of the best teams in the country.

 

[MSUCostanza]

Calipari refuses to come to Starkville. He's done the same to Arkansas and Ole Miss. He'll only play UT. That's it. It's part of the reason we dropped them in football as well.

 

[HD6]

BCS is a college football term. It has exactly jack **** nothing to do with college basketball.

Are you excited for the NBA playoffs this weekend? </p>

 

[wpnetdawg]

nm

 

[wpnetdawg]

we don't play enough teams in the Southwest Conference.

 

[dawgstudent]

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[HD6]

We beat Oklahoma in Starkville in 1997. Played them in Norman in 1996.

 

[Coach34]

do understand what is meant by teams from those conferences</p>

 

[HD6]

Do you also refer to all of Division I basketball teams as Football Bowl Subdivision teams? Do you still use the term AFL when talking about the Jets or Chiefs? Still refer to the baseball team in Oakland as the Philadelphia A's? The one in Atlanta as the Boston Braves? The basketball teams in LA as the Minneapolis Lakers and San Diego Clippers? I mean, I'd know what you referring to, I'd just assume you were a massive idiot. And I'd be right.</p>

 

[Coach34]

Whats next- integration in the SEC?

 

[mstateglfr]

While it is obviously a football term, it also represents the 6 major conferences for basketball.
Now what is also obvious is that there are plenty of schools outside of the 6 conferences that are excellent teams. Memphis, Xavier, Butler, Utah, UNLV, Gonzaga, etc etc.

But the fact remains that the 6 BCS conferences get a **** ton of picks in the NCAA tournament and they dominate the polls week in and week out. After taking a quick look at the current top 25, there are only 2 teams in the AP poll that dont belong to BCS conferences...Xavier and Butler. Yep, looked at the Coaches poll and those two teams are also the only representation of outside conferences in that poll too.

so 23 of the 25 ranked teams in both polls belong to BCS conferences.
BCS is a football term, but it is also an easy way to show a team competes in one of the best conferences around.

...and I know that VT, Colorado, DePaul, Oregon, Georgia, and Indiana are all in BCS conferences but still suck hard. there are always exceptions to the rule on both sides.

 

[Coach34]

"After taking a quick look at the current top 25, there are only 2 teams in the AP poll that dont belong to BCS conferences...Xavier and Butler. Yep, looked at the Coaches poll and those two teams are also the only representation of outside conferences in that poll too."

Glad to see someone contribute to the thread rather than try to be an assclown

 

[Eureka Dog]

He wants to play a "national" schedule. MSU, Ole Miss, and Arkansas are all too close (and not ranked high enough) to pique Cal's interest.

 

[Dawgbreeze]

Arkansas starts two Juniors, Welsh and Washington, both who played a lot last year. Are you trying to say that they are a lot younger than us just in case we slip up and beat them? We start a frosh at the point, a Jr. at the 2 guard, a Jr at center, and two sophs at the other two positions. I know I couldn't stand a worthless AD in Templeton and the facts bear out I was correct,but you sit on pins and needles evry day hoping Stans fails. I really feel sorry for you and the State hospital would welcome you with open arms.

 

[Coach34]

"Arkansas starts two Juniors, Welsh and Washington, both who played a lot last year. Are you trying to say that they are a lot younger than us just in case we slip up and beat them?"

They have 5 new starters from last years line-up
We have 3 new starters from last years line-up

They start 3 freshman, including a freshman PG
We start 1 Freshman, who plays PG

They have 8 freshman on their roster
We have 4 freshman on our roster

This is where **** gets started. Just because you dont want to face the truth, i'm supposedly "distorting it". Explain to me how the 17 they arent younger than we are?

 

[Indndawg]

You hat Stans and have alwas hatd Stans

 

[Dawgbreeze]

Deleted due to closet rebel reference.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Welsh and Washington played as much as the starters last year

....then you had to start saying things that just aren't true and are way to easy to look up. Welsh and Washington did not play as much as the starters last year. In fact, they were 6th and 8th on the team in minutes last year at 19 and 13. Weems, Beverley, and Ervin each played a LOT more than they did, Townes and Thomas played at minimum 2-4 minutes a game more than Welsh and 8-10 more than Washington..Welsh did play more than Hill, who played more than Washington. You MIGHT make a case that Welsh was a key player last year in his 19 minutes a game, but the numbers don't bear out either of them being any more than spotty role players last year. They combined to score in double figures six times last year in 70 chances. FYI - by contrast our 6th and 8th guys in minutes played were Phil and Brian. I would hardly consider either of them key players last year.