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<blockquote data-quote="michaelwalkerbr" data-source="post: 131707685" data-attributes="member: 1601483">I'll give you that, and I'll agree that once the numbers become the norm they are hard to change, but only in the NFL which maintains the same basic team for awhile. College football is inherently different due to graduations and early departures. The most causative reason for success or failure is the head coach according to the numbers, again and again. I already pointed out Iowa State as a current example.Let's take Clemson as another. Before Dabo Swinney took his first head coaching job with Clemson and gave them an average of just over 11 wins per season for 12 years so far, the Tigers were a second tier ACC team during the previous 2 coaches reins with Coach Tommy West averaging 6 wps over 5 years and Tommy Bowden averaging 7.8 wps over 9 years. Alabama had a losing record before Nick Saban. Look what FSU did under Bobby Bowden compared to before and now. As you say, the numbers show it. The numbers also show that the most likely determination of WVU's success going forward is Coach Brown, at least for now. What happened before him is mostly irrelevant. Now is when we should start finding out how good he is, I'm optimistic.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="michaelwalkerbr, post: 131707685, member: 1601483"] I'll give you that, and I'll agree that once the numbers become the norm they are hard to change, but only in the NFL which maintains the same basic team for awhile. College football is inherently different due to graduations and early departures. The most causative reason for success or failure is the head coach according to the numbers, again and again. I already pointed out Iowa State as a current example. Let's take Clemson as another. Before Dabo Swinney took his first head coaching job with Clemson and gave them an average of just over 11 wins per season for 12 years so far, the Tigers were a second tier ACC team during the previous 2 coaches reins with Coach Tommy West averaging 6 wps over 5 years and Tommy Bowden averaging 7.8 wps over 9 years. Alabama had a losing record before Nick Saban. Look what FSU did under Bobby Bowden compared to before and now. As you say, the numbers show it. The numbers also show that the most likely determination of WVU's success going forward is Coach Brown, at least for now. What happened before him is mostly irrelevant. Now is when we should start finding out how good he is, I'm optimistic. [/QUOTE]

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