Ongoing College Football Cancellation & Speculation Thread

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This is what every discussion about this virus turns into.
 
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Ravens stadium at 14K makes sense. Comm Stadium should be no more than 15K, including some in suites and Makers Mark club. You could probably socially distance with 12-13K in the actual stands (where I will be sitting, hopefully)
 
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don’t get the rationale here. I’d support any sport wanting to actually play and move forward. Only going to push others to do the same.

I think that we are getting ready to see a massive cultural correction when it comes to sports. As a culture, we have--for better or worse--elevated sports (and entertainment in general) to a place in our lives that is out of proportion with their actual importance to our way of being. We know more about the backup point guard for our favorite team than the chemist that is creating the drugs that will save the lives of our children.

It is, in its own way, a cultural disease of sorts. I like sports, watched them since I was a tadpole, so I'm as guilty as anyone. But when we get this bent out of shape by not getting to see a person we'll never know hand an oval ball to another person we'll never know, then you know that something is wrong with our culture.

We need doctors.
We need truckers.
We need teachers.
We don't need football.

Perhaps some of these professional sports leagues will be laid low. Perhaps that is for the best.
 

vhcat70

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I think that we are getting ready to see a massive cultural correction when it comes to sports. As a culture, we have--for better or worse--elevated sports (and entertainment in general) to a place in our lives that is out of proportion with their actual importance to our way of being. We know more about the backup point guard for our favorite team than the chemist that is creating the drugs that will save the lives of our children.

It is, in its own way, a cultural disease of sorts. I like sports, watched them since I was a tadpole, so I'm as guilty as anyone. But when we get this bent out of shape by not getting to see a person we'll never know hand an oval ball to another person we'll never know, then you know that something is wrong with our culture.

We need doctors.
We need truckers.
We need teachers.
We don't need football.

Perhaps some of these professional sports leagues will be laid low. Perhaps that is for the best.
Great post. BLM will fix the needs issues.
 

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I think that we are getting ready to see a massive cultural correction when it comes to sports. As a culture, we have--for better or worse--elevated sports (and entertainment in general) to a place in our lives that is out of proportion with their actual importance to our way of being. We know more about the backup point guard for our favorite team than the chemist that is creating the drugs that will save the lives of our children.

It is, in its own way, a cultural disease of sorts. I like sports, watched them since I was a tadpole, so I'm as guilty as anyone. But when we get this bent out of shape by not getting to see a person we'll never know hand an oval ball to another person we'll never know, then you know that something is wrong with our culture.

We need doctors.
We need truckers.
We need teachers.
We don't need football.

Perhaps some of these professional sports leagues will be laid low. Perhaps that is for the best.
Humans also NEED entertainment and stress relief.
 

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After you figure in that the crazies think football is dangerous and shouldn’t be played, and now this virus crap....there’s NO WAY we get to see CFB this fall....VERY UNFORTUNATE
 

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After you figure in that the crazies think football is dangerous and shouldn’t be played, and now this virus crap....there’s NO WAY we get to see CFB this fall....VERY UNFORTUNATE
So tens of millions of people who watch and love football are being oppressed.

that’s a a stretch.

And the virus crap...not sure what that means...but there are precautions that you can take.

not in Texas, Florida or California. But, you know, smart people.

wash hands, stay a few feet apart, and wear a mask inside in tight quarters.

I have no idea why Americans are so fragile that they can’t do these simple things.
 

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I think that we are getting ready to see a massive cultural correction when it comes to sports. As a culture, we have--for better or worse--elevated sports (and entertainment in general) to a place in our lives that is out of proportion with their actual importance to our way of being. We know more about the backup point guard for our favorite team than the chemist that is creating the drugs that will save the lives of our children.

It is, in its own way, a cultural disease of sorts. I like sports, watched them since I was a tadpole, so I'm as guilty as anyone. But when we get this bent out of shape by not getting to see a person we'll never know hand an oval ball to another person we'll never know, then you know that something is wrong with our culture.

We need doctors.
We need truckers.
We need teachers.
We don't need football.

Perhaps some of these professional sports leagues will be laid low. Perhaps that is for the best.

I get your point but I think you may be undervaluing the need for enjoyment. All these other things are necessities and are of great practical importance, but if people can't enjoy life to some degree that it becomes matter of just existing, not living.

Sports has always been the great unifier of people with many differences and the great diversion from the problems we all face in life. I'm not a psychologist but I think the negative impact of no major college and professional sports on our society would be enormous.
 
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Whatever happened to "Let the buyer beware"? If I decide to attend a public event of MY CHOOSING, why should the entity putting the event on be held liable if I KNOW the risk involved and STILL attend?

The things you mentioned above( mesothelioma, Talcum, Roundup) were sold with little to no information released by the manufacturer on the dangers involved with their use.

With Covid-19, it would be extremely difficult to prove you didn't KNOW the dangers involved with being in a stadium full of fans.

YOU assume the RISK.
It’s easy to show that side of the equation, look at all the politicians and people on Fox News constantly downplaying the virus and the risks of it, saying it’s no big deal or just the flu and etc.
 

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It’s easy to show that side of the equation, look at all the politicians and people on Fox News constantly downplaying the virus and the risks of it, saying it’s no big deal or just the flu and etc.

It isn’t a big deal to most people.

Which is a greater threat to a college football player, getting a severe injury that alters your life, or getting deathly sick from Covid while on campus?
It just doesn’t affect people under 65 the same way it does elderly.
 

Mad Max

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It’s easy to show that side of the equation, look at all the politicians and people on Fox News constantly downplaying the virus and the risks of it, saying it’s no big deal or just the flu and etc.
It’s not new. It’s COVID-19. That means there we 18 prior versions.

that was a classic.

How anyone could listen to their virus reporting after that is crazy beyond me!!
 

Mad Max

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It isn’t a big deal to most people.

Which is a greater threat to a college football player, getting a severe injury that alters your life, or getting deathly sick from Covid while on campus?
It just doesn’t affect people under 65 the same way it does elderly.
Ask Karl Towns.
 

Bill Derington

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Ask Karl Towns.

Im sorry he lost his mom, but she isn’t a college aged person.

Somehow we went from flatten the curve, to eliminate every case. It’s insanity, and completely about politics now.

Anyone that dies with, or suspected of having Covid is counted as a death, it’s crazy. To top it off, the govt is paying states if they’re Covid positive. It’s nuts
 

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Im sorry he lost his mom, but she isn’t a college aged person.

Somehow we went from flatten the curve, to eliminate every case. It’s insanity, and completely about politics now.

Anyone that dies with, or suspected of having Covid is counted as a death, it’s crazy. To top it off, the govt is paying states if they’re Covid positive. It’s nuts

And that was the point of my post. Im not sold on the data.
 

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I think that we are getting ready to see a massive cultural correction when it comes to sports. As a culture, we have--for better or worse--elevated sports (and entertainment in general) to a place in our lives that is out of proportion with their actual importance to our way of being. We know more about the backup point guard for our favorite team than the chemist that is creating the drugs that will save the lives of our children.

It is, in its own way, a cultural disease of sorts. I like sports, watched them since I was a tadpole, so I'm as guilty as anyone. But when we get this bent out of shape by not getting to see a person we'll never know hand an oval ball to another person we'll never know, then you know that something is wrong with our culture.

We need doctors.
We need truckers.
We need teachers.
We don't need football.

Perhaps some of these professional sports leagues will be laid low. Perhaps that is for the best.


Agreed. I also think we've reached the point where we should do away with athletic scholarships.
 

BlueVelvetFog

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I’m to the point of just forgetting anything and everything sports until late 2021 when this whole Covid crap on a spatula is barely )I hope) a memory,

Just contain this crap and next season we roll. Hell, we’ve done it for wars! We are currently at war with little red sausage balls with yellow zits
 

HagginHall1999

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People like you should have to go talk to the families of the 120,000+ who have died so far, look them in the eyes, and tell them this is all no big deal.

It is a big deal but it is no bigger deal than any of the below. There are 550k deaths worldwide and we are effectively 8 months into this. We've crashed our economy, eliminated jobs and divided the country over an illness that no one can control- that is sad in itself. More lives are being destroyed than are being lost and many will not recover.

670,000 people estimated to die of Cancer in US at start of 2019.

770,000 people died from Aids related illnesses worldwide in 2018.

500k-650k people die worldwide from the flu every year. (There is a vaccine).

We have treatments for all of these things and people die. It sucks, it is sad but it is life. I have lost grandparents and an aunt to terrible diseases. I lost two of my Grandparents from different diseases 2 weeks apart 20 years ago. My aunt was diagnosed with cancer and gone 8 months later.

COVID is scary but it isn't a death sentence for the vast majority of people. Some of the above are. We have way bigger health problems than COVID- it is a fact.

At this point I just want society to get a grip.

Football and I can't believe I am saying it...basketball even takes a backseat to society waking the hell up.
 

Mad Max

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And that was the point of my post. Im not sold on the data.
One could make the argument that the numbers are too rosy.

if someone died but wasn’t tested for COViD they don’t count. Some places have simply stopped reporting. Doesn’t seem like something you do when the data is good.

if we doubt all of the data we have, then we are just guessing blindfolded.
 

Bill Derington

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One could make the argument that the numbers are too rosy.

if someone died but wasn’t tested for COViD they don’t count. Some places have simply stopped reporting. Doesn’t seem like something you do when the data is good.

if we doubt all of the data we have, then we are just guessing blindfolded.

That is not accurate. The CDC specifically told to states that a positive test is not required to be reported as a Covid death. Throw in the fact there was federal money tied to each case and death you can bet states counted as much as possible.

No place in the United States is simply not reporting.

The data is a joke, mixing antibody positives, follow up tests, and suspected cases with new daily positives is for driving fear.
 

Mad Max

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That is not accurate. The CDC specifically told to states that a positive test is not required to be reported as a Covid death. Throw in the fact there was federal money tied to each case and death you can bet states counted as much as possible.

No place in the United States is simply not reporting.

The data is a joke, mixing antibody positives, follow up tests, and suspected cases with new daily positives is for driving fear.
Like I said. The other side says your data is crap too.

they will quote experts, they will quote statistics etc.

People don’t care to listen to the smart ones, the listen to the loud ones. On both sides.

my point is simple.

Stay a few free away, wash your hands and keep them away from your face, and wear a mask in enclosed area.

It isn’t hard. It shouldn’t take a government order to get people to do it either. It is just the smart thing to do.
 

Bill Derington

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Like I said. The other side says your data is crap too.

they will quote experts, they will quote statistics etc.

People don’t care to listen to the smart ones, the listen to the loud ones. On both sides.

my point is simple.

Stay a few free away, wash your hands and keep them away from your face, and wear a mask in enclosed area.

It isn’t hard. It shouldn’t take a government order to get people to do it either. It is just the smart thing to do.

It isn’t my data, it is the data. It’s junk, it’s being used to scare people.

I agree it isn’t hard, my point is that it isn’t necessary for the govt to mandate it. KY is at 3.8% positivity, including all the above I posted. Why do we need a mandate?
 

Mad Max

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It isn’t my data, it is the data. It’s junk, it’s being used to scare people.

I agree it isn’t hard, my point is that it isn’t necessary for the govt to mandate it. KY is at 3.8% positivity, including all the above I posted. Why do we need a mandate?
Fair point. I’m in Texas. A few months back everyone was talking like Texas was a miracle because they had no cases.

we also didn’t have any testing.

So people said “it’s a hoax” and lived like everything was normal.

now many hospitals are filling up and the deaths will soon follow.

You go out? Not a single person wears a mask. My son took his first job at Walmart and gets cursed at for asking people to wear masks. It is a state with a disproportionate amount of very low IQs is all I can say.

I miss Kentucky for a lot of reasons.
 

Mad Max

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Here’s a thought. Had a little bourbon so hopefully it makes sense.

If you don’t wear masks, etc, the virus spreads.

If you wear masks, etc, the virus doesn’t spread as much.

If the virus doesn’t spread, people get comfortable and stop wearing masks, etc

If people stop wearing masks, etc, then the disease spreads.

Either way, basic human nature renders us incapable of slowing the spread.

I’m really glad this virus isn’t worse than it is.
 

Bill Derington

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Fair point. I’m in Texas. A few months back everyone was talking like Texas was a miracle because they had no cases.

we also didn’t have any testing.

So people said “it’s a hoax” and lived like everything was normal.

now many hospitals are filling up and the deaths will soon follow.

You go out? Not a single person wears a mask. My son took his first job at Walmart and gets cursed at for asking people to wear masks. It is a state with a disproportionate amount of very low IQs is all I can say.

I miss Kentucky for a lot of reasons.

Texas has cases when they weren’t testing too. They only tested symptomatic people, those that had it but didn’t realize it weren’t tested, just as what’s being done in Europe now.
Now we’re doing 700000 tests a day, almost anyone that wants a test can get one, symptoms or not. That drives the case numbers up.
Hospitals are filling up because they started doing electives again, they test patients, if they are positive it’s considered Covid hospitalized even though it has zilch to do with Covid. Hospitals essentially shutdown in the first couple of months, so it appears Covid is driving the rise in patients when it’s actually not.

No one said the virus was a hoax, the deaths in Texas are not going to materialize like you say, they would’ve already started by now, and the death rate and count continues to drop.
 
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Bill Derington

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Here’s a thought. Had a little bourbon so hopefully it makes sense.

If you don’t wear masks, etc, the virus spreads.

If you wear masks, etc, the virus doesn’t spread as much.

If the virus doesn’t spread, people get comfortable and stop wearing masks, etc

If people stop wearing masks, etc, then the disease spreads.

Either way, basic human nature renders us incapable of slowing the spread.

I’m really glad this virus isn’t worse than it is.

We’re all going to be exposed, we aren’t going to stop it. So how long do we go about acting terrified of a virus that isn’t particularly dangerous to >95% of people?

What if there’s never a vaccine? We now know that Htdroxy Chloriquine is a good way to treat it, as well as Remdesivir, and steroids.
 

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Texas has cases when they weren’t testing too. They only tested symptomatic people, those that had it but didn’t realize it weren’t tested, just as what’s being done in Europe now.
Now we’re doing 700000 tests a day, almost anyone that wants a test can get one, symptoms or not. That drives the case numbers up.
Hospitals are filling up because they started doing electives again, they test patients, if they are positive it’s considered Covid hospitalized even though it has zilch to do with Covid. Hospitals essentially shutdown in the first couple of months, so it appears Covid is driving the rise in patients when it’s actually not.

No one said the virus was a hoax, the deaths in Texas are not going to materialize like you say, they would’ve already started by now, and the death rate and count continues to drop.
Three weeks ago, same folks said cases wouldn’t go up.

two weeks ago it was that hospitals had lots of capacity.

amazing how many people are so confident, but keep changing their story...like driving by looking in the rear view mirror.
 

Bill Derington

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Three weeks ago, same folks said cases wouldn’t go up.

two weeks ago it was that hospitals had lots of capacity.

amazing how many people are so confident, but keep changing their story...like driving by looking in the rear view mirror.

The deaths aren’t going up, the cases are irrelevant when testing increases. The percentage positive is the important metric, which is why antibody positives and follow up tests don’t need to be in new case count.

The hospitals are not in trouble, last year at this time Houston Hospitals were at 95% capacity. That’s where hospitals operate to make a profit, we also shutdown electives for 2 months so guess what happens when they are available again? Hospitals push to get as many as possible done.

We shutdown hospitals for 2 months, then people act surprised when they reopen and start filling back up.
 
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