Only a nut would be against increased screening

WhiteTailEER

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On face value I would agree. However, I also know how to write something to where it becomes intentionally too cumbersome to implement to kill the effort. I would have to see how the "Increased FBI screening and background checks" was implemented in the bill to understand if this is good or not.

These are the kinds of political games that are played on the hill all the time. They add things in that have nothing to do with the original bill so that it will get rejected and then call them out for rejecting it.

And the rubes (on both sides) buy into it over and over and over.
 

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It ain't like we weren't screening everybody entering the Country from Syria anyway, it ain't very easy to get in as a refugee from anywhere let alone Syria. But , hey, gotta keep scaring the rubes to vote against their own economic interests
 

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It ain't like we weren't screening everybody entering the Country from Syria anyway, it ain't very easy to get in as a refugee from anywhere let alone Syria. But , hey, gotta keep scaring the rubes to vote against their own economic interests
I agree. The refugee "crisis" reminds me of all the shark stories during the summer months. I think the Republicans should be using this to discuss border safety.
 

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It ain't like we weren't screening everybody entering the Country from Syria anyway, it ain't very easy to get in as a refugee from anywhere let alone Syria. But , hey, gotta keep scaring the rubes to vote against their own economic interests
What's involved in the screening process? Who does it? Where is it done? Who verifies the information? How is any information gathered?
 

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What's involved in the screening process? Who does it? Where is it done? Who verifies the information? How is any information gathered?

There is an agency that does a number of screenings before it is even handed off to the US government. Then groups in the US government ranging from SoS, to DHS, to DoD, to DOJ are involved in the screening process using a number of different criteria, techniques and tools. There are interviews, verification of medical records, medical screenings, they are checked against criminal and terrorist databases.

The interviewers are trained to be able to detect if somebody is lying or not and in how to uncover inconsistencies. And then also, let's say a family says they don't have documentation because their home was killed in a bombing, then somebody will research to see if a bomb went off around their home around the day and time they say.

It is extremely thorough which is why it takes upwards of 2 years to get through the refugee program. And over 50% of those in the refugee program get turned away because if any part of their story can't be verified they don't get through. For some reason people seem to think that if somebody can't be properly vetted that we just let them in anyway, and nothing could be further from the truth.
 

EERs 3:16

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There is an agency that does a number of screenings before it is even handed off to the US government. Then groups in the US government ranging from SoS, to DHS, to DoD, to DOJ are involved in the screening process using a number of different criteria, techniques and tools. There are interviews, verification of medical records, medical screenings, they are checked against criminal and terrorist databases.

The interviewers are trained to be able to detect if somebody is lying or not and in how to uncover inconsistencies. And then also, let's say a family says they don't have documentation because their home was killed in a bombing, then somebody will research to see if a bomb went off around their home around the day and time they say.

It is extremely thorough which is why it takes upwards of 2 years to get through the refugee program. And over 50% of those in the refugee program get turned away because if any part of their story can't be verified they don't get through. For some reason people seem to think that if somebody can't be properly vetted that we just let them in anyway, and nothing could be further from the truth.

But in the meantime, they're free to wonder American streets? And we have access to the Syrian crime databases right?
 

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There is an agency that does a number of screenings before it is even handed off to the US government. Then groups in the US government ranging from SoS, to DHS, to DoD, to DOJ are involved in the screening process using a number of different criteria, techniques and tools. There are interviews, verification of medical records, medical screenings, they are checked against criminal and terrorist databases.

The interviewers are trained to be able to detect if somebody is lying or not and in how to uncover inconsistencies. And then also, let's say a family says they don't have documentation because their home was killed in a bombing, then somebody will research to see if a bomb went off around their home around the day and time they say.

It is extremely thorough which is why it takes upwards of 2 years to get through the refugee program. And over 50% of those in the refugee program get turned away because if any part of their story can't be verified they don't get through. For some reason people seem to think that if somebody can't be properly vetted that we just let them in anyway, and nothing could be further from the truth.

And both DHS and the FBI say that the refugees cannot be properly vetted. But you clearly know more than they do.
 

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It ain't like we weren't screening everybody entering the Country from Syria anyway, it ain't very easy to get in as a refugee from anywhere let alone Syria. But , hey, gotta keep scaring the rubes to vote against their own economic interests
What is that economic interest you speak of? Seen it suggested several times, but like you, they never offered or didn't know. Just sling a buzz phrase?
 

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Paris (AFP) - Some of the suspects in the Paris attacks took advantage of Europe's migrant crisis to "slip in" unnoticed, the French premier said Thursday, warning the EU needed to "take responsibility" over border controls. Manuel Valls said the EU's cherished passport-free Schengen zone would be in danger if the bloc did not improve border controls, after it emerged the ringleader of the Paris attacks had managed to enter Europe unnoticed.