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Wasker77

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Just got though reading the comments made by Beaver fans after the U Dub game on the website for Oregon's largest newspaper, The Oregonian. Trust me they are pretty funny. The excitement for Andersen as their coach is on par for how a lot of us Husker fans feel about Riley.
 

Truehuskerfan

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Riley ws 2-13 in his last 15 PAC 12 games at OSU. Let's not pretend they weren't already heading in that direction.
So how long does Gary Andersen get to turn things around there? Has he gone anywhere towards making things better? It's pretty hard to say things have got any better, and they've probably regressed. If things were so bad under Riley, that means Andersen had a much lower bar to clear, and he can't even clear that. He's already guaranteed of having the worst 3 year record for the program since before Riley came. The hypocrisy and double standards with people are astounding. Riley comes here-no excuses in year 3. Andersen is in his 3rd year at Oregon State, and you come up with every excuse in the book for him.
 

JohnRossEwing

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So how long does Gary Andersen get to turn things around there? Has he gone anywhere towards making things better? It's pretty hard to say things have got any better, and they've probably regressed. If things were so bad under Riley, that means Andersen had a much lower bar to clear, and he can't even clear that. He's already guaranteed of having the worst 3 year record for the program since before Riley came. The hypocrisy and double standards with people are astounding. Riley comes here-no excuses in year 3. Andersen is in his 3rd year at Oregon State, and you come up with every excuse in the book for him.
I guess the answer to your question is...who cares? Not me and probably not any other Husker fans.
Fire Andersen today or give him 15 more years...
It is not hypocrisy or a double standard. It is that 99.9% of us don't give a **** about Andersen and what he does over at OSU.

Just like no one cares about Saban losing to ULL 10 years ago, except for you.
 

jlb321_rivals110621

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So how long does Gary Andersen get to turn things around there? Has he gone anywhere towards making things better? It's pretty hard to say things have got any better, and they've probably regressed. If things were so bad under Riley, that means Andersen had a much lower bar to clear, and he can't even clear that. He's already guaranteed of having the worst 3 year record for the program since before Riley came. The hypocrisy and double standards with people are astounding. Riley comes here-no excuses in year 3. Andersen is in his 3rd year at Oregon State, and you come up with every excuse in the book for him.

+1

Both should be held to the same standards - you can't excuse one and not the other and thus one can only surmise that both were crappy hires
 
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f00tball_fan

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Year 3. No excuses.

Absolutely. However I never based it on that. I based it on simple coaching decisions that are required to coach in just a high school level being completely flubbed.

When you are going on the road against a team with the worst run defense in the league and you game plan 50 passes in the rain, wind, and fog you deserve to be fired instantly for that in my book. I don’t care what year it is.
 

newAD

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Completely agree.

I was being sarcastic. Anderson is 7-22 now at OSU. Riley had a 54% winning percentage there. The winning % of the program from 1973 to when Riley was hired the first time there was in the 20 something percent range. Yes I know Erickson had success there (64% win percentage with an 11-1 season in year 2 of 4).

It was hard enough to win there before Phil Knight started dumping $$$ into Oregon.

To me the jury is out on GA's coaching ability. and I'm not ready to say he's a bad coach because he is struggling at OSU.
 

timnsun

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They were crap with Riley too.
So hard for some people to give credit to Riley for anything... career over 50% there... Anderson is under 25% there...

Not saying Riley is the answer here, but why is it so hard for some to admit he did a decent job at a tough place to recruit to?
 

Phillipe

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So how long does Gary Andersen get to turn things around there? Has he gone anywhere towards making things better? It's pretty hard to say things have got any better, and they've probably regressed. If things were so bad under Riley, that means Andersen had a much lower bar to clear, and he can't even clear that. He's already guaranteed of having the worst 3 year record for the program since before Riley came. The hypocrisy and double standards with people are astounding. Riley comes here-no excuses in year 3. Andersen is in his 3rd year at Oregon State, and you come up with every excuse in the book for him.
I didn't come up with any excuse. I am not excusing Andersen for anything. I simply pointed out a fact. Andersen truly took on a rebuilding program unlike the fake one we pretend Riley inherited.

But, no, I am not excusing Andersen. They are horrible.
 

Phillipe

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So hard for some people to give credit to Riley for anything... career over 50% there... Anderson is under 25% there...

Not saying Riley is the answer here, but why is it so hard for some to admit he did a decent job at a tough place to recruit to?
Because the other guy that coached there had them in the top 5. That's why.
 

timnsun

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I didn't come up with any excuse. I am not excusing Andersen for anything. I simply pointed out a fact. Andersen truly took on a rebuilding program unlike the fake one we pretend Riley inherited.

But, no, I am not excusing Andersen. They are horrible.
So bad... I guess you are right, Nebraska was such a great place for any coach to inherit. Riley just sucks so bad he has made us worse.

You are amazing in your hatred of all things Riley, that you won’t even acknowledge the mess Riley inherited here.

His coaching hasn’t been good, but at least be objective enough to acknowledge he came into a bad situation here with the way Pelini firebombed things on the way out.
 

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So bad... I guess you are right, Nebraska was such a great place for any coach to inherit. Riley just sucks so bad he has made us worse.

You are amazing in your hatred of all things Riley, that you won’t even acknowledge the mess Riley inherited here.

His coaching hasn’t been good, but at least be objective enough to acknowledge he came into a bad situation here with the way Pelini firebombed things on the way out.

The mess was that a coach could not win or get the respect of a team that was used to winning nine games a year.

In every other situation, it is the coach that takes the blame for losing a team. Not the former coach that never had a season as bad as the current coach.

Let's pretend that a team with 16 returning starters with an experienced quarterback that never won less than 9 games a year was some kind of train wreck.. The former coach was a train wreck and yet he somehow won (somewhat) with them.

Instead, let's gloss over the fact that the coach that just went 2-13 in conference play came in here and tried to run an offense not suited for the players he had. And let's ignore the fact that we had to end up firing a bunch of that staff because they were incompetent. But, instead of looking at those facts, let's just chalk it up to a bunch of decently educated young adults that somehow were traumatized because their former head coach cursed a lot and didn't like the AD that would soon be fired anyway.

A good coach can win over a team. There are examples all over the country. Bad coaches lose their teams, and a lot of games. And get the guy that hired him fired.
 

timnsun

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The mess was that a coach could not win or get the respect of a team that was used to winning nine games a year.

In every other situation, it is the coach that takes the blame for losing a team. Not the former coach that never had a season as bad as the current coach.

Let's pretend that a team with 16 returning starters with an experienced quarterback that never won less than 9 games a year was some kind of train wreck.. The former coach was a train wreck and yet he somehow won (somewhat) with them.

Instead, let's gloss over the fact that the coach that just went 2-13 in conference play came in here and tried to run an offense not suited for the players he had. And let's ignore the fact that we had to end up firing a bunch of that staff because they were incompetent. But, instead of looking at those facts, let's just chalk it up to a bunch of decently educated young adults that somehow were traumatized because their former head coach cursed a lot and didn't like the AD that would soon be fired anyway.

A good coach can win over a team. There are examples all over the country. Bad coaches lose their teams, and a lot of games. And get the guy that hired him fired.
I have come around to realize that Riley saddled us with his bad coaches. I blindly wanted to believe they would be different here.

Over his time here he has turned over the coaching significantly, but we still are having issues on the OLine and at QB. I would like to think the QB issues are affected by the OLine woes, but Lee still tries to thread the needle too much.

That is is why he will not make it to next year without a winning season this year. In that case, coaching woes will end his career here.
 
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And we have 2 losses to unranked teams. Any team would ***** about that.


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The irony is running thick from a Pelini apologist with the above comment.
 
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WuTang_Husker

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No no no...you are forgetting the toxins! That were totally gone when they were 7-0...but then I guess they came back and stuff.

Those damn toxins. It looked like Riley had finally won the war on toxins and those bastards show back up. It's going to be a long tough war against the toxins but if we all just rally and support Riley we can eventually win the war on toxins. And the mess(9 wins a year) will finally be cleaned up(by winning 7 games a year?).
 

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I have come around to realize that Riley saddled us with his bad coaches. I blindly wanted to believe they would be different here.

Over his time here he has turned over the coaching significantly, but we still are having issues on the OLine and at QB. I would like to think the QB issues are affected by the OLine woes, but Lee still tries to thread the needle too much.

That is is why he will not make it to next year without a winning season this year. In that case, coaching woes will end his career here.

Coaching woes end almost all careers. Why are we trying to protect his? He is going to be well compensated.
 

JohnRossEwing

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Those damn toxins. It looked like Riley had finally won the war on toxins and those bastards show back up. It's going to be a long tough war against the toxins but if we all just rally and support Riley we can eventually win the war on toxins. And the mess(9 wins a year) will finally be cleaned up(by winning 7 games a year?).
I think...if my Rileymath is correct...that 7 wins by Riley are greater than 8,9.10,11,12,13 or 14 wins by any other coach. And 7 losses by Riley using Rileymath is actually a good season as long as it is in years 1-44.
 

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Mentally challenged poster pipes in

RollingLaughRollingLaughRollingLaugh

The irony is running thick from a Pelini apologist with the above comment.
You never learn, do you. Isn't that the reason you've been banned multiple times in the past?
 

coachDubs

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You never learn, do you. Isn't that the reason you've been banned multiple times in the past?

I asked you, you didn't answer so it's free game. If I'm banned over your low mental capacity then a lot of other posters better be banned right away as well.

Yes, Mr. "Pelini relied on JUCO's"

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Just an fyi-- I have not commented on Riley being hired/fired and still hold out hope he turns it around, but if he doesn't I'm ok with him being let go. Agree he is a great guy overall though.

Ok, after the NU-Oregon game my son and I drove the 50 miles up to Corvallis to see some of the Minnesota-Oregon State game. The people couldn't have been nicer and two season ticket holders gave us free tickets. I honestly don't know if anyone can recruit there. They had one side of their stadium that was updated with club seats and was really, really nice. However, the other three sides were really antiquated and in desperate need of being replaced. However, they don't have the money. Corvallis is a small town and the university is as well. Also, and I'm not making this up-- when it gets to third down and they encourage the crowd to make noise-- most stadiums play tiger growls or something like that. Oregon State is in lumber country. When its third down there, they play chain saw noises. And a bunch of grown men in beards stand up and do a "pull" with their arms like they are starting chain saws. How do you recruit a kid from LA or SF doing that? I don't know. Thought I'd share that piece of exciting info for you all.
 

GeorgeFlippin

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"Oregon State is in lumber country. When its third down there, they play chain saw noises. And a bunch of grown men in beards stand up and do a "pull" with their arms like they are starting chain saws. How do you recruit a kid from LA or SF doing that? I don't know. Thought I'd share that piece of exciting info for you all."

Well, you have to love their enthusiasm for chain saws. Wonder what "brand" they are pulling when they do that, Poulan? :D
 

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I have come around to realize that Riley saddled us with his bad coaches. I blindly wanted to believe they would be different here.

Over his time here he has turned over the coaching significantly, but we still are having issues on the OLine and at QB. I would like to think the QB issues are affected by the OLine woes, but Lee still tries to thread the needle too much.

That is is why he will not make it to next year without a winning season this year. In that case, coaching woes will end his career here.
I agree with this and always thought Riley had some great coaching qualities. Unfortunately picking his assistants is not one of them. Some of it is not his fault, Oregon state was not exactly a Mecca for assistants so I believe he settled on guys that were loyal but otherwise average at best. Oregon state at the end had a problem with his assistants, the day after meeting with Oregon state AD about the assistants Nebraska called. Riley then brought the guys with him, now to his credit he fired Banker and if he makes it this year it will be because of this decision. I feel for Riley but these problems are of his making