Oregon TB punches Boise player after game...

ckDOG

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**** talking happens before and throughout every college football game. It's not like Blount was being any more of a piece of crap than half the rest of D1 players these days. And, I don't necessarily disagree with the Boise guy trying to get the last word in. He just didn't do it very tactfully - he changed it from being words to being physical. When you run up to a guy, shove him on the shoulder (nudge or push is irrelevant), talk your ****, and turn your back and walk away - you can't expect your target not to retaliate.

Thinking more about it, I kinda like Blount deciding just to go up to the guy and jaw him rather than the two stare at each other for 2 minutes bumping chests and what not. Might as well get to the point and knock the guy out.

If you say you wouldn't retaliate against someone who skips up to you, cusses you, and then shoves you, you are either a liar, a *****, or extremely outmatched.

Blount was wrong in acting like a madman after the fact. Normal people don't try to fight a stadium section.
 

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patdog said:
He started the confrontation and he threw the first punch. However, I think the Oregon player should probably be kicked off the team. He was fighting with HIS OWN TEAMMATES immediately before the confrontation started and has already been kicked out of at least one practice this fall. Not to mention the whole going after the fans thing.
So now you want a one game suspension for making a comment to the opposing jackass who was flapping his gums in the press the whole week before. That is the complete pussification of football there. I'm not saying the taunting was a good thing, but this Oregon prick brought it on himself. You should be able to piss a guy off without him going all O.J. on the football field. Christ man!
 

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ckDOG said:
...shove him on the shoulder....
Did you see some bizzaro tape I missed? He patted him on the shoulder pad. You do realize this is a cushioned, heavy plastic pad meant to protect the players from hits. It is not unusual to hit another players pads to get their attention. This is a far cry from a cheap-shot right to a mans face. I swear you people have gone crazy.
 

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If you run your mouth talking **** leading up to a game and fail spectacularly to back it up, you deserve to have **** talked back to you. The Boise player did not deserve to be sucker punched, unless you think the Oregon guy deserved to be sucker punched before the game, since he was the one who talked **** in the first place.

I'm not saying you're wrong if you decide to take the high road (obviously not). But I have no problem whatsoever with taunting some guy who ran his mouth in the lead up to the game.
There is a difference between talking **** to the media before the game and getting in someone face after they just lost a game. The Boise player was not sucker punched. He turned away. If you are going to get in someones face like that, you better not turn and try to walk away. He should have seen it coming. His dumb *** deserved to get punched and I hope it broke his jaw.

Now as far as trying to go in the stands after some fans, he deserves to get kicked out of college football for doing that. You can't try to go in the stands no matter what. If he had done that in Tiger Stadium, a bunch of coon asses would have come on the field after him and probably beat the **** out of him. He should get suspended for the season and the Boise player should be suspended for at least 3 games.
 
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VegasDawg13 said:
If you run your mouth talking **** leading up to a game and fail spectacularly to back it up, you deserve to have **** talked back to you. The Boise player did not deserve to be sucker punched, unless you think the Oregon guy deserved to be sucker punched before the game, since he was the one who talked **** in the first place.

I'm not saying you're wrong if you decide to take the high road (obviously not). But I have no problem whatsoever with taunting some guy who ran his mouth in the lead up to the game.
There is a difference between talking **** to the media before the game and getting in someone face after they just lost a game. The Boise player was not sucker punched. He turned away. If you are going to get in someones face like that, you better not turn and try to walk away. He should have seen it coming. His dumb *** deserved to get punched and I hope it broke his jaw.

Now as far as trying to go in the stands after some fans, he deserves to get kicked out of college football for doing that. You can't try to go in the stands no matter what. If he had done that in Tiger Stadium, a bunch of coon asses would have come on the field after him and probably beat the **** out of him. He should get suspended for the season and the Boise player should be suspended for at least 3 games.

But, your suspensions are a little too harsh. I say suspend the Oregon player for two games and the Boise State player for one game.
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtPoC8jJzRA

Go to 2:14. Blount was walking with his head down (as it should have been after the way Oregon played), Boise guy slaps him on the shoulder and mouths off to him. Blount decks him as Boise guy turns away smirking. Boise guy changes it from smack talk to something physical even if it wasn't a full punch or hard shove. It doesn't matter. All it takes is a finger to change the situation in my opinion. Blount just cut out all the BS between what started it and the fight that was inevitably going to happen. If Blount held back, and the smack talk continued for a minute or two before a fight broke out, everybody would be crucifying the Boise St. guy for starting a fight and being a sore winner.

Even a pat on the shoulder is enough to set most people off when you have somebody yelling at you or getting a wise comment in. It changes the scenario entirely. The person doing the yelling combined with patting/hitting/touching/etc. has to expect consequences. The consequences in this case just came very quickly.
 

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Breaking someone's jaw, attacking your own team-mates and going after fans is NOT part of the game. The guy is obviously a thug that doesn't belong on a college football field. No one is to blame for their own actions anymore. This mentality is why little girls are bringing loaded guns on buses to kill people.
 

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that is why they don't just let tigers walk around in public. If you can't control your animalistic urges then you just don't deserve the privilege to have your education payed for and play football. If he'll act like this on national television then he obviously don't give a <17>. Dude needs to be sent packing.
 

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patdog said:
The point is, the Boise St. player started the confrontation and made first contact. He deserved what he got. Nice slow-motion fall, there.
First of all, if you have the ego to tell the Press quote: "we owe them an *** whooping" then you set yourself up for **** like this. But, I see why he talks ****. Its obvious he's got street skills picked up from the mean streets of Florida or Mississippi or where ever.

To me, Blount started this **** with his big fat mouth, but he proved he's a sore loser by backing up his words (not by winning the game) but acting like a complete douche bag and going RON ARTEST on Hout's ***.

To me, it was great seeing Hout saying **** to Blount after the game. Blount deserved all the tauting he got. Thing is, Hout pussed out, he should have anticipated Blount's move, countered it and decked his *** flat out. If Haut had any balls he would have known once you decide to trump a taunt then be prepared to throw it down.

Its clear Blount is a straight up Gangster, going after his own team mates, coaches, security and then the damn crowd. Blount has definite mental issues. He'll end up killing somebody one day for sure and will probably end up in prison with behavior like last night. ESPN mentioned Blount's been suspended before for off-the-field issues.
 

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I am not into all this violence but will agree those BSU players are a bunch of vaginas. </p>
 

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White guys who wear sweat head bands are gay! He needed to get his head knock off. ******!</p>
 

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and probably put in jail before he really does hurt or kill someone. He's a complete psycho. But at that moment, he was just walking off the field. No need to go find him and shove him. All the ****-talking he did before the game doesn't matter. Talk **** back to him if you want to. But the Boise St. player was the one who changed it from being verbal to being physical. If he hadn't done that, we wouldn't be talking about this today.
 

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in an obvious attempt at taunting. although it wasn't a punch, it was a physical confrontation. these days, players will try to do the "tap" on the shoulder pads or helmet to get away with hitting the opponent, thinking that they can get away with it. if he doesn't hit blount, more than likely, none of this happens.

no suspension for talking - the suspension should be for hitting blount.
 

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If the incident DID not result in a jaw jacking and a crowd attack from Blount, would anyone even consider any action taken towards Hout for tapping the guy on the pads? No way.
 

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SportsCenter just interviewed a guy fromt he NFL how said that Blount just went from a possible early 2nd round pick to completely undraftable. When asked about the Boise guy his response was, "that's football."

Had Blount pushed him, as is usual in football, we wouldn't be having this conversation. He sucker-punched the guy in the face. You are just wrong on this one.
 
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We all know the NFL would never allow those kind of guys to play in the league...

...I wonder what Albert Haynesworth is doing for a living today. Unless face-stomping is "football."

The fact is, the Boise State player instigated this. Had he mouthed off it would have been one thing, but he took the next step by making contact with Blount. Regardless of how light it may have been. The physical contact is the line.

It was bad timing on Petersons part to get Houts attention because it resulted in him getting laid out.

Again, Hout should get a game suspension for his taunting (mainly the contact after the game) and Blount should be suspended from the team.
 

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PosterFormerlyKnownAsRFAA said:
We all know the NFL would never allow those kind of guys to play in the league...

...I wonder what Albert Haynesworth is doing for a living today. Unless face-stomping is "football."

The fact is, the Boise State player instigated this. Had he mouthed off it would have been one thing, but he took the next step by making contact with Blount. Regardless of how light it may have been. The physical contact is the line.

It was bad timing on Petersons part to get Houts attention because it resulted in him getting laid out.

Again, Hout should get a game suspension for his taunting (mainly the contact after the game) and Blount should be suspended from the team.
Now moves up to a one game suspension? You would support all players called for taunting in a game getting this same suspension? Come on, that's just a bunch of crap. This Oregon piece of **** was talking trash all summer leading up to this game. The guy shouldn't have taunted him but he brought it on himself with all his talk of whooping Boise's ***. Hout should get yelled at by his coach, that's about the appropriate level of punishment for post-game taunting. I bet Smoot said worse **** to guys every single game of his career than that guy did last night.
 

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His stock goes down because of his bat-**** craziness that was displayed after laying out the Boise guy. To me, that's two separate events, one of which was warranted and the other completely inexcusable. I'm not lumping all of this together in deciding whether I think he should have retaliated initially or not.

I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority defending Blount. But, since its casual racism week on SPS, how about this for food for thought (directed in general, not specifically at you AssEnd): What if the roles were reversed? Let's say Blount sought out the Boise guy, slapped him on the shoulder, told him to 17-off, and turned away - in the same exact manner. Then, Boise guy lays out Blount. I bet we'd hear alot of chatter along the lines of "that thug got what was coming to him", "Blount provoked him - he deserved it" etc.etc. I'm not implying if you think the Boise guy didn't provoke it, you are are automatically a racist. The "who started it" has always been a grey area. There's no clear cut answer for every case. But, the thought did cross my mind. I haven't seen a clip of the incident of television this morning that has shown what led up to the punch. Just the punch. It's portrayed as if this psycho comes out of nowhere and assaults the Boise player. They should at least show Boise guy seeking out Blount for full disclosure.

Fire away.
 
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to Blount. The CONTACT is what is over-the-line, regardless of how minor you think the contact was. THAT is the line.

And now you are mixing IN-GAME taunting, a penalty, with post game taunting WITH CONTACT. How do you apply a 15-yard penalty after the game? Or are you arguing that Albert Haynesworth's face-stomp should have only been a 15 yard penalty?

Again, nobody is concerned with what was said to Blount...
 
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If it was just the roles, nobody would call him a "thug" getting what he deserved. He'd be a "dumass" who just lost a game and continued to run his mouth.

There is no reason to wonder about what if...it is all in front of us.

Blount talked trash during the summer.
Boise St kicked Oregon's *** (or that is how it is being played, I didn't see the game, but is an 11 point (19-8) win an *** kicking? Was it that one-sided?)
Blount was walking away, with head down, when Hout came up ran his mouth about the result then crossed the line by slapping the shoulder pads of Blount.
Peterson saw it and, to his credit, pulled Hout away and got in his face without thinking twice.
However, that was bad timing, because that is when Blount was turning to throw a punch (a move that alone should be a multi-game suspension).
Then Blount went apeshit...maybe after your post, I shouldn't say apeshit.
 

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because it was so minor that only a complete pansy would be worried about that happening to a football player in full pads. The Boise guy shouldn't have done it but t happens in football every... single... day... ! At this point I think we just need to recognize that you think football is played by little girls for whom a tap on the shoulder is a major violation punishable by a suspension and I think football is played by men who can handle a smack on the pads without cold-cocking a guy, punching your own teammates and attacking the fans before being dragged off the field by police.

So it's sort of a "my god you are a wuss" agree to disagree.
 
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I mean, it happens in the pile-ups.

Where do YOU draw the line? Is it somewhere between the tap on the shoulder/mouthing off and sucker punching an opponent?

Would you be ok with the Boise State player taclking Blount after the game? I mean, sprinting to him driving his shoulder pad into him and slamming him into the ground? That would be a perfect tackle AND something that happens in football all the time. I mean, they are men so why not?

The truth is, the contact (any contact that is done in a taunting manner) after the game is uncalled for.

I guess Boise States coach is a ***** and/or a little girl because he jumped on his player right after.

It isn't difficult. Post game, he had no business touching him.