Orgeron and Kiffin - discuss amongst yourselves...
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I know that while Orgeron was at Ole Miss, we continually pushed players to practice that were banged up. That's why a guy like Peria Jerry, who won't come off the field unless he's forced to, couldn't get healthy. He was allowed to practice all week injured, and his injuries never got better. Not surprisingly, we have a somewhat sane (at least when it comes to handling players) coach now, and Jerry was actually able to heal from an early injury and play the end of the season at 100%.
So, No. 10 seems highly likely to me. Orgeron's old-school when it comes to playing through injuries. You don't sit out for anything. In reality, that's just stupid, because you end up taking minor injuries and turning them into major injuries.
No. 8 is also plausible. Orgeron was basically the same way at Ole Miss, and it seems Kiffin is following his lead, or at least taking the same path. Our assistants weren't allowed to have a life outside of football. The cutting of walk ons and the language are probably right on. I don't know much about the partying and drinking rumors, but the others seem right up the alley of what happened at Ole Miss. Of course we had two assistants fired for drinking related issues within 2 months of Orgeron being on the job, so I guess the drinking rumors are plausible as well.
So, No. 10 seems highly likely to me. Orgeron's old-school when it comes to playing through injuries. You don't sit out for anything. In reality, that's just stupid, because you end up taking minor injuries and turning them into major injuries.
No. 8 is also plausible. Orgeron was basically the same way at Ole Miss, and it seems Kiffin is following his lead, or at least taking the same path. Our assistants weren't allowed to have a life outside of football. The cutting of walk ons and the language are probably right on. I don't know much about the partying and drinking rumors, but the others seem right up the alley of what happened at Ole Miss. Of course we had two assistants fired for drinking related issues within 2 months of Orgeron being on the job, so I guess the drinking rumors are plausible as well.
also, judging by his comments the last six months, both somewhat immature and out of his element in the SEC.
And he has Ed Orgeron as his top assistant.
Enjoy the show.
And he has Ed Orgeron as his top assistant.
Enjoy the show.
you know the students don't mind hanging with the coaches, and it's better than them driving drunk
I think Orgeron is his chief advisor. Based on the way they've handled things, it sounds like Orgeron is calling the shots, or at least he's giving Kiffin advice on how to handle his team.
If Kiffin handles his team the way Orgeron handled ours, he'll lose them pretty quickly. That's one reason I'm glad we get UT at the end of the year this year. If they use similar practice routines to what Orgeron did here, the team will be banged up and ready to quit on the coaching staff by the time they make it to Oxford.
If Kiffin handles his team the way Orgeron handled ours, he'll lose them pretty quickly. That's one reason I'm glad we get UT at the end of the year this year. If they use similar practice routines to what Orgeron did here, the team will be banged up and ready to quit on the coaching staff by the time they make it to Oxford.
At least Kiffin out drinking at that bar? I think it's safe to say that rocky top can be replaced by that sound of a plane crashing to earth in the old WW2 movies in football before long.
The old man started a business from scratch and worked hard to make it profitable. He hands it over to his son one day who feels entitled but has spent his time at summer camps and prep schools. He has no idea how hard his dad worked to keep the business running.
Pretty soon it all falls apart.
Pretty soon it all falls apart.
Because the first generation obviously had to build the business. The second generation got to see first hand how hard the first had worked to build the business, so he sustains it. The third generation is the one that didn't see the business built from scratch and therefore he's usually the lazy one that lets the thing collapse.
At least that's the way I heard the rule.
I did hear a quote on Kiffin though that I thought was somewhat fitting. Whoever the writer was said that Kiffin needs to learn that there is a difference between hitting a triple and starting out life on third base. Kiffin started out life on third base of the coaching ranks. He didn't have to work to get there, and if he doesn't have a lot of respect for the work his dad put in to get there, then the third generation rule may apply to him.
At least that's the way I heard the rule.
I did hear a quote on Kiffin though that I thought was somewhat fitting. Whoever the writer was said that Kiffin needs to learn that there is a difference between hitting a triple and starting out life on third base. Kiffin started out life on third base of the coaching ranks. He didn't have to work to get there, and if he doesn't have a lot of respect for the work his dad put in to get there, then the third generation rule may apply to him.
and totally believable. This shows what happens when you give basically a kid way too much power and way too much money. Also shows how great of a job Byrne did in hiring Mullen. He has handled himself almost perfectly from day one, professional all the way.
I just can't understand what the hell Tennessee is thinking. I can't believe a prominent program steeped in tradition would allow this to develop. When he said "I'm hiring Ed Orgeron," they should have fired him on the spot. Thanks goes to Ole Miss for bringing this douchebag into the SEC. I guess their desire to win and win quick blinded them to the fact that they were paying **** tons of money to totally inept coaches that are only going to further bury their program. I think the drama at UT is gonna get REALLY good in the next few years. Debauchery, physical altercations, adultery, the works.
I just can't understand what the hell Tennessee is thinking. I can't believe a prominent program steeped in tradition would allow this to develop. When he said "I'm hiring Ed Orgeron," they should have fired him on the spot. Thanks goes to Ole Miss for bringing this douchebag into the SEC. I guess their desire to win and win quick blinded them to the fact that they were paying **** tons of money to totally inept coaches that are only going to further bury their program. I think the drama at UT is gonna get REALLY good in the next few years. Debauchery, physical altercations, adultery, the works.
get the O to Baton Rouge. Of course, they would have been better equipped to keep him under control but it would have been funny nonetheless. I bet the lsu ad and the hat are very glad ut outbid them.
Kiffin and Orgeron are going to run that program into the ground. The Vols administration will give him at least 2 years before they even think of firing him, and probably 3 minimum. Then they're going to go out and hire some badass coach who'll have them in contention for a national title -- just as those 17ers roll back onto our schedule.
a placeholder coach; i.e., the best they could do on short notice but a hire that could bring in talent while waiting the 1 or 2 years before Kiffin gets shown the door and Gruden or whomever steps in. This was the mo that UF, Bama, and to a lesser extent OM used.
