I became a MAGA fan in 1981 when I switched parties from Democrat to GOP. Voted for Reagan over Carter after ole' Jimmy ran interest rates up to about 19% and cut the military budget to where we couldn't even fly a helicopter across the Sahara Desert without crashing. And the Dems haven't changed ever since.
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And the hits keep coming:
"All Federal Funding will STOP for any College, School, or University that allows illegal protests. Agitators will be imprisoned/or permanently sent back to the country from which they came...American students will be permanently expelled or, depending on on the crime, arrested. NO MASKS! Thank you for your attention to this matter." -Trump
I hope our re-education camps are nicer than North Korea's, now that we've stared down the path of killing free speech and controlling media. MAGA will assure us this is a good thing. Just TDS and lib owning here, nothing to see.
You seem fun. Hope you make it make to the tailgate this year.
I'm also really concerned about Trump et al trampling the constitution, even if at the same time, some of the short term results make me happy. Breaking down the checks and balances of the constitution, though, are not worth those short term results. Not everything he is doing is trampling the constitution. Some of it may very well be. And I'm not happy about that.
What I really can't stand, though, are liberals (and here I admittedly and unadvisedly lump you into that mix, but it is a mix, regardless) who have conveniently and suddenly discovered that the constitution exists at all, who had absolutely zero problems when it was their guy doing it, made zero posts on sports message boards decrying their guy trampling the constitution, but did make posts praising and defending their guy. Now that it isn't their guy doing the trampling, they make operatic, swooning statements about how democracy is being gutted. They will even respond to this post asking, "When did my guy ever trample the constitution?" Those people have zero credibility, and no one should listen to their opinion on the matter, ever. The liberals are the authors of this mess, they're just mad that someone else is swimming in the sewage they created.
It is impressive to see you have confidently unpacked such a tangled mess and found the true source.
It isnt from W's time in office where liberties and freedoms were tossed to the side in the name of national safety and if you disagreed you were called a terrorist or told you were providing support to terrorism.
So then its before or after that. Did Clinton do it? Did Obama do it? Or is this going all the way back to Carter?
...or are you saying some random 2 years over the last 4 decades when Democrats controlled the House and Senate is when liberals authored this mess?
I certainly cant untangle it all and confidently say when and who is the Typhoid Mary of ignoring the Constitution.
I look at the last 20 years, 40 years, 100 years and it all looks the same- both sides overreach when they can and cry foul when they cant.
I think that if we do anything other than hold up a mirror an pursue a solution, we are deluding ourselves. We have watched for years as Congress became dysfunctional party puppets and presidents increasingly exercised executive orders to push their party's agendas forward in lieu of legislating them. I think the key difference for me is that as a constitutional conservative, what I've seen over the years is presidents pushing executive orders that they felt were constitutional and honoring the court rulings when the courts found it to be overreach. There are a few key differences in Trump 2.0 even from his first term, which I helped vote him into under the anybody but Hillary banner.
Trump 1.0 kept serious, experienced people in his cabinet and other positions of power. He grew increasingly frustrated with those people when they pushed back on some of his craziness, particularly at the end of his term. This ended in him fomenting 1/6 in an attempt to force a constitutional crisis. Again, many MAGAs excused this attack on the capitol saying he wasn't really trying to take over. He was trying to force certification past the constitutional deadline to introduce uncertainty and crisis. If it were not for Pelosi having the balls (insert your own joke here) to call them back into session to certify the electors on the heels of that event, it would have been bad. This is when I realized that I had been had and all the things that he said that were crazy that I told myself he was just spouting off and wouldn't do, were incorrect. He is completely selfish and capable of anything.
This time around, he is putting unqualified, Trump (not American or constitution) loyalists in a push to consolidate power. This is bad for America. Just a few things that have happened that give me specific concern:
- Ending Birthright Citizenship: One of the most controversial executive orders aimed to end birthright citizenship for children born in the U.S. to parents who are not in the country lawfully. This order was blocked by multiple federal judges, who deemed it "blatantly unconstitutional"[2][1].
- Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) Programs: Trump issued executive orders to eliminate DEI programs in the federal government, declaring them illegal. These orders were challenged in court, and a federal judge ruled certain provisions unconstitutional.
- Mass Firings of Probationary Employees: An executive order directed the firing of thousands of probationary federal employees. A federal judge in California ruled this action illegal, stating that the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) does not have the authority to direct other agencies to hire or fire employees.
- Freezing Foreign Aid: Another executive order involved a blanket freeze on foreign aid by the State Department and the U.S. Agency for International Development. A federal judge in D.C. blocked this freeze, ordering the government to comply with his ruling and release the funds.
- Suspension of Refugee Program Funding: An executive order suspended funding for refugee programs. This action has been challenged in court, with plaintiffs arguing that it violates the Refugee Act of 1980. A federal judge in D.C. has ordered the government to release the funds.
- Creation of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE): This new department, led by tech billionaire Elon Musk, aims to streamline federal operations. However, the executive order establishing DOGE has been challenged for overstepping presidential authority and bypassing congressional approval.
Things that have not yet happened but should be of major concern are numerous, but none more so than him already talking about a 3rd term (also unconstitutional) and some pure MAGA congresspeople pushing that agenda. That's a fundamentally broken system. The funniest two outcomes of me voicing my displeasure on this board are:
1) finding out I'm liberal. Literally nowhere else in my life would anyone make that statement. I am very serious about the need to conserve our Constitution and I perceive the threat from Trump to be real and imminent.
2) having people say that there is no way I voted for Trump twice, as if someone who currently dislikes him as much as I do would have reason to admit that I was voting party lines for two elections.
I guess if people question your true conservative bonafides, it is because I for one don't recall any of these long rebuttals and quite frankly unhinged screeds against the Biden admin when they were literally pissing on the Constitution and ignoring laws daily.
Your entire list highlights items being blocked by federal judges. Liberal activist anti-Trump judges. The block / slow Trump at any cost lawfare continues. Some of those items were held up on technicalities. Fine. Some have already been corrected and are proceeding. The remainder should be adjudicated as soon as possible.
"Things that have not yet happened but should be of major concern are numerous, but none more so than him already talking about a 3rd term (also unconstitutional) and some pure MAGA congresspeople pushing that agenda."
But it was OK to give Obama a third term by deceiving the American people about Biden's mental health.
But it was OK to give Obama a third term by deceiving the American people about Biden's mental health.
Most allegations of trampling on the constitution are simply sour grapes or a fearing of worst case scenario that never pans out - likely sourced from the 24/7 opinion desks that use strong language like "trampling the constitution" when they really mean "I disagree with the president".
Courts aren't perfect but they do a pretty good job at getting in the way of an aggressive president and weeding out nonsense. There's very few instances of the Supreme Court saying "you can't do that" and the POTUS responding "yes I can, watch me". If we get to that point in any administration, there needs to be immediate and firm response from Congress whether or not citizens are warm to whatever pans out from POTUS acting illegally. Or they can fold and hope that the King they don't care to check leaves the White House and we all can pretend to care about process, republics, and balancing power again.
Our useless Congress is mostly at fault because they refuse to do their jobs and keep kicking cans down the road or hope the courts will handle the issue (whatever it might be). We need term limits and we need to ban lobbyists or at the least , heavily regulate their access.
I missed the times that the Biden Admin pulled out the Constitution, placed it on the floor, and collectively peed on it.
You would think doing that even once would be world news, yet they did it literally each day and I managed miss all of it.
All seriousness, every president's admin ignores laws. Doesn't make it right, but also doesn't make it a precedent.
Details matter - what laws are ignored, for example.
Trump said he would ignore the tiktok law.
President's choose to ignore enforcing drug laws/prosecution or immigrant laws/prosecution or some even fully bypass Congress' power to create law and fund the government.
Executive orders aren't new and have been used by Democrats abd Republicans.
As for who is 'worse', well that seems to be largely up to who you dislike more. That president seems to cobsistently be the one that violates the Constitution more.
We all could look at actual analysis, but that just gets called partisan and is dismissed.
What the absolute 17 does this mean?
Are you claiming Obama was running things from '21 thru '24?
Amen. There's some downsides to term limits but I've seen enough of Congress only caring to run their next reelection campaign rather than intelligently legislate and act as check to the executive. Too many years of rubber stamping whatever potus wants digs a hole that's hard to get out of. Part of that is our own fault though. "We" pay attention and vote like one man is going to make or break the country rather than hold our incumbent Congressmen's feet to the fire to get what we need/want. So here we are subject to the whims of whatever president is in office and a lazy Congress that sits back in the well paid cuck chair and watches what the president tries to do by himself.
Republicans run the House and Senate. There is no reason to kick anything down the road.
If they don't accomplish their agenda, then it's only on them.
And if they give up their powers to a President, then it's only on them.
Term limits aren't needed if people would stop voting for incumbent that disappoint.
I don't disagree with term limits, but it's worth pointing out jowt hey shouldn't be needed.
Term limits shouldn't be needed but unfortunately we have devoutly stupid voting populace. Members of Congress are in re-election mode as soon as they take office and that is their main concern. Having people grow old, senile and rich off of the taxpayer is ludicrous.
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