OT: All season tires

[RULoyal]

Doing some research on all season tires for my daughter's Honda HRV. Primary importance is good in the snow/rain. Not that other criteria aren't important but she's a "right lane Jane" so they are just further down the list. I've read a number of articles and looked at a number of rating sites. I'm looking at:

• BFGOODRICH ADVANTAGE CONTROL
• BRIDGESTONE WEATHERPEAK
• MICHELIN CROSSCLIMATE2

Anyone have any personal experience with these tires or perhaps another good performer?

 

[rutgersal_rivals139582]

Goodyear Assurance MaxLife

 

[fg7321]

Michelin CC2 and look at the Michelin LTX Advantage M&S they are very highly rated. Get at Costco when they run the $100-150 off special

 

[Rutgers1976]

Michelin CC2 and look at the Michelin LTX Advantage M&S they are very highly rated. Get at Costco when they run the $100-150 off special

Just got the Michelin LTX @ Costco last month. Costco website will take you through an algorithm based on your car's make, mosel, year to point you to a few. Then you make the purchase online and schedule the appointment. They're very good and thorough with teh installation process. And the special they have typically includes free installation.

 

[RULoyal]

Just got the Michelin LTX @ Costco last month. Costco website will take you through an algorithm based on your car's make, mosel, year to point you to a few. Then you make the purchase online and schedule the appointment. They're very good and thorough with teh installation process. And the special they have typically includes free installation.

Just looked at the LTX and unfortunately, they don't come in the size needed for the Honda HRV

 

[anon_xekqhstck0ygt]

I bought the goodyear assurance weather ready. wanted the best all weather tires for snow. got them after a bit of research. they are awesome. ride is smooth and they kicked *** last winter. Last night it was raining bad in Ohio and they blow right thru it.

Did get a giant piece of metal in one yesterday on 78 near the PA/NJ border on the way back but luckily I carry a plug kit and air thing... don't think it was the tire's fault!

 

[Tango Two]

Doing some research on all season tires for my daughter's Honda HRV. Primary importance is good in the snow/rain. Not that other criteria aren't important but she's a "right lane Jane" so they are just further down the list. I've read a number of articles and looked at a number of rating sites. I'm looking at:

• BFGOODRICH ADVANTAGE CONTROL
• BRIDGESTONE WEATHERPEAK
• MICHELIN CROSSCLIMATE2

Anyone have any personal experience with these tires or perhaps another good performer?

https://www.tirerack.com/content/tirerack/desktop/en/homepage.html

 

[RULoyal]

https://www.tirerack.com/content/tirerack/desktop/en/homepage.html

Been doing the bulk of my research on Tire Rack

 

[RU4Real]

Very generally speaking, I've always found Michelin's wet traction to be somewhat below equivalent offerings from Pirelli and Continental.

Also, don't overlook brands like Hankook and Yokohama.

But, like you said, it's an HR-V. Probably anything that's made of some rubber-like substance will be fine, since the car isn't ever going to overpower its tires.

 

[Jtung230]

Thought this was a thread about KM.

 

[RUevolution36]

Doing some research on all season tires for my daughter's Honda HRV. Primary importance is good in the snow/rain. Not that other criteria aren't important but she's a "right lane Jane" so they are just further down the list. I've read a number of articles and looked at a number of rating sites. I'm looking at:

• BFGOODRICH ADVANTAGE CONTROL
• BRIDGESTONE WEATHERPEAK
• MICHELIN CROSSCLIMATE2

Anyone have any personal experience with these tires or perhaps another good performer?

I have the crossclimate's on my car. works really well in the rain. its a fairly new model and design and whenever i take it in for service, they ask if those are snow tires or a performance tire...crazy how its both ends of the spectrum. don't really drive much in the snow since I got them, mostly because we haven't really had any snow. ride is good on them, not really a performance tire - can handle a good amount of speed thru corners, but is def not meant to be pushed to the outer limits - i don't think your daughter is going to be doing much hard cornering at speed in an hrv though.

 

[fg7321]

Just got the Michelin LTX @ Costco last month. Costco website will take you through an algorithm based on your car's make, mosel, year to point you to a few. Then you make the purchase online and schedule the appointment. They're very good and thorough with teh installation process. And the special they have typically includes free installation.

Costco also includes mounting and balancing for the life of the tire and most importantly road hazard warranty

 

[dollarbill_rivals328823]

I have BFG Adv Control on both cars. They perform well in the snow. Costco with coupon of course. $$$$

 

[Shelby65]

IMO there’s no safety difference among any tire brands with the same speed rating. With normal driving, every tread pattern does the job.

More expensive brands might give you more miles and related warranties. That’s what you should be looking at, rather than trying to find the safest tires in wet conditions.

I’ve bought cheap at Costco and it seems they wear out faster. That’s the trade off. No right answer just personal preference.

 

[RUevolution36]

IMO there’s no safety difference among any tire brands with the same speed rating. With normal driving, every tread pattern does the job.

More expensive brands might give you more miles and related warranties. That’s what you should be looking at, rather than trying to find the safest tires in wet conditions.

I’ve bought cheap at Costco and it seems they wear out faster. That’s the trade off. No right answer just personal preference.

thats def not true. i've had premium brand tires on all my cars. some are way better in rain and snow on the same car. and even in the dry. some just don't grip well. that's why there are things like this:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=306

 

[RULoyal]

thats def not true. i've had premium brand tires on all my cars. some are way better in rain and snow on the same car. and even in the dry. some just don't grip well. that's why there are things like this:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=306

Shelby is certainly entitled to his opinion but I with you on this. And unless one thinks all the tire evaluations by various car magazines and automotive sites are BS - those evaluations would seem to indicate there is a difference.

 

[ashokan]

Saftey stuff aside, I like tires with quiet tread.

There are mechanical factors (alignment, wear, bearings etc) that can influence tire noise but some treads alone just make more noise. Sometimes it takes a certain speed to notice. I first noticed tread noises from bicycles. Its nice to glide down a long hill in the woods with silence and free of tire humm.

Quietest tires I've had (I'm sure there are more) were on Yokohamas . Who knew about tire pitch sequencing?

https://www.lesschwab.com/article/tires/want-quiet-tires-look-for-these-features.html

Unique Tread Design Gives CUV Tires a Quiet, Smooth Ride​

https://www.tirereview.com/designin...-cuv-applications-yokohama-geolandar-cv-g058/

 

[DJ Spanky]

thats def not true. i've had premium brand tires on all my cars. some are way better in rain and snow on the same car. and even in the dry. some just don't grip well. that's why there are things like this:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=306

Shelby is certainly entitled to his opinion but I with you on this. And unless one thinks all the tire evaluations by various car magazines and automotive sites are BS - those evaluations would seem to indicate there is a difference.

His opinion is very wrong. There can be major differences between brands of the same type and cost. Some may wear better, some may grip better. Differences in tire compound and tread pattern have direct effects on how the tires handle, how they wear, how they grip new, how they grip after putting 15-20K miles on them, etc. And price is no indicator on how good a tire is: I've seen expensive tires after 15K miles become piss poor in certain weather conditions, or wear excessively on the corners even with proper tire rotation, etc.

 

[RU4Real]

Tires are your car's only connection to the road. It's perfectly okay to use driving style / habits as criteria for tire selection but at the end of the day it's in everyone's best interest - yours, your passengers, other people on the road - to select the best tire you can afford.

And don't try to stretch their lifespans. I have a hard and fast rule that I don't keep a set of tires beyond 30k miles, regardless of their apparent treadwear.

I can personally vouch for Yokohama. I used them exclusively on both my GTI and my A3 and found them to be exceptional - especially on the GTI, where they would team up with the car's amazing suspension calibration to corner with so much grip that the G forces on an entrance ramp would cause all of the engine oil to migrate to one side of the pan, lighting up all the pressure alarms. For those familiar with NJTP lingo - the 8A SNI was a playground for that car.

 

[Bagarocks]

Cooper Tires been using them for years, a Subsidiary of Goodyear.
Wholly owned American Company. Biggest reason I buy them.

 

[mildone_rivals]

If driving in snow is a priority, then maybe consider switching onto winter tires during winters. They will beat out all-season tires in any test of snow or ice in freezing temps and even, from what I've seen, in wet testing in temps below about 40F.

But having tires swapped twice a year is an expense most people don't want to incur. The extra set of tires isn't all that much of an expense because it roughly doubles the life of both sets of tires. The mounting and balancing however is an unavoidable expense (unless you buy a second set of wheels).

So barring the winter tire approach, I'd echo what others have said and get good, name-brand, tire and never look at tires with saving money as the priority. They're tied with good, well-maintained brakes as the two most important safety components of any car.

So, like @RU4Real said, go with the best, highest-rated (using ratings on TireRack for example) tires your budget allows.

 

[DJ Spanky]

But having tires swapped twice a year is an expense most people don't want to incur. The extra set of tires isn't all that much of an expense because it roughly doubles the life of both sets of tires. The mounting and balancing however is an unavoidable expense (unless you guy a second set of wheels).

Very easy solution to that: get a second set of cheap (i.e., steel) rims to mount the winter tires on. That also protects your good rims from the salt and crap that gets on the road during the winter.

 

[mildone_rivals]

Very easy solution to that: get a second set of cheap (i.e., steel) rims to mount the winter tires on. That also protects your good rims from the salt and crap that gets on the road during the winter.

True, that's a good point.

 

[RULoyal]

Very easy solution to that: get a second set of cheap (i.e., steel) rims to mount the winter tires on. That also protects your good rims from the salt and crap that gets on the road during the winter.

For a couple of reasons, a second set of tires is not practical. I'm pretty set on telling her to go with BRIDGESTONE WEATHERPEAK

 

[jerseybird]

Cooper Tires been using them for years, a Subsidiary of Goodyear.
Wholly owned American Company. Biggest reason I buy them.

The owner's son at the local auto repair shop recommended Cooper tires for my Toyota Tundra. Bought them and they seemed to handle well in the rain.

 

[DJ Spanky]

For a couple of reasons, a second set of tires is not practical. I'm pretty set on telling her to go with BRIDGESTONE WEATHERPEAK

Gotcha. I wasn't replying to you, just commenting on what mildone was saying.

 

[Section124]

Definitely do your research on the car you drive and wet/icy conditions. I like to search the forums. I used to have a Toyota Highlander and it came with the Bridgestone tires. However those were horrible for the Highlander. But they were great on my old Explorer. I switched to Pirelli and they were fantastic. I also like Continental tires as well. Just because a tire is a certain name brand may not make it the best for your car.

 

[mildone_rivals]

Gotcha. I wasn't replying to you, just commenting on what mildone was saying.

Stop yelling at me!

 

[ivan brunetti]

All-season tires generally suck in real snow. If you live in an area where you get over six inches a dozen times per season, you might want to opt for snow tires.

 

[mildone_rivals]

All-season tires generally suck in real snow. If you live in an area where you get over six inches a dozen times per season, you might want to opt for snow tires.

Yep. I've experienced the difference personally a bunch of times over the years and in a variety of way. The biggest difference is in braking, but overall traction improves a bunch once temps get down into the 30s.

For NJ, especially in recent years, all-seasons are usually good enough. But if I lived where snow was deeper and more frequent, and I had kids driving my cars, I'd equip them with winter tires.

 

[ruvsi]

Doing some research on all season tires for my daughter's Honda HRV. Primary importance is good in the snow/rain. Not that other criteria aren't important but she's a "right lane Jane" so they are just further down the list. I've read a number of articles and looked at a number of rating sites. I'm looking at:

• BFGOODRICH ADVANTAGE CONTROL
• BRIDGESTONE WEATHERPEAK
• MICHELIN CROSSCLIMATE2

Anyone have any personal experience with these tires or perhaps another good performer?

I just put GENERAL ALTIMAX RT45 on my daughters Honda CR-V.
Excellent reviews on Tire Rack and reasonably priced. My mechanic also recommended these.

 

[RULoyal]

I just put GENERAL ALTIMAX RT45 on my daughters Honda CR-V.
Excellent reviews on Tire Rack and reasonably priced. My mechanic also recommended these.

Looked at those also.

 

[Shelby65]

thats def not true. i've had premium brand tires on all my cars. some are way better in rain and snow on the same car. and even in the dry. some just don't grip well. that's why there are things like this:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=306

I said ‘does the job’. I have never lost traction on wet roads in decades of driving on cheaper tires. Braking distance too. All tires are perfectly safe if driving as the conditions allow. Go ahead and put your Pirellis on your Beemers thinking you’re impressing people but the bad weather handling differences are minimal

 

[RUevolution36]

I said ‘does the job’. I have never lost traction on wet roads in decades of driving on cheaper tires. Braking distance too. All tires are perfectly safe if driving as the conditions allow. Go ahead and put your Pirellis on your Beemers thinking you’re impressing people but the bad weather handling differences are minimal

you really think regular folks notice ppl's tires? gearheads maybe, but its not a status thing. it's a safety thing. getting the best quality goods for the money that you can afford to spend is a pretty normal thing for most folks.

 

[DJ Spanky]

All-season tires generally suck in real snow.

Very true. Any kind of accumulation and their tread width (i.e., the breaks in the tread) is not wide enough to disperse the buildup of snow.

 

[Section124]

I said ‘does the job’. I have never lost traction on wet roads in decades of driving on cheaper tires. Braking distance too. All tires are perfectly safe if driving as the conditions allow. Go ahead and put your Pirellis on your Beemers thinking you’re impressing people but the bad weather handling differences are minimal

Just because Pirelli makes the tire doesn’t mean it’s expensive. Most are probably cheaper than Michelin and other top brands. I always found Michelin tires don’t always have the best grip and wear out pretty quickly.

 

[mildone_rivals]

I said ‘does the job’. I have never lost traction on wet roads in decades of driving on cheaper tires. Braking distance too. All tires are perfectly safe if driving as the conditions allow. Go ahead and put your Pirellis on your Beemers thinking you’re impressing people but the bad weather handling differences are minimal

Using your personal history of not losing traction is not a useful metric. And minimal can be several feet or more which can easily be the difference between an accident or a near-miss.

 

[mildone_rivals]

Just because Pirelli makes the tire doesn’t mean it’s expensive. Most are probably cheaper than Michelin and other top brands. I always found Michelin tires don’t always have the best grip and wear out pretty quickly.

I've had great success with Michelin high performance tires. Both in terms of longevity and grip. Much more so than with similar Pirelli tires.

But that's on sports cars. Could be a different story with sedans or SUVs.

 

[RUevolution36]

Just because Pirelli makes the tire doesn’t mean it’s expensive. Most are probably cheaper than Michelin and other top brands. I always found Michelin tires don’t always have the best grip and wear out pretty quickly.

correct. i have had michelins that weren't great. that was before i really dug into the reviews on tirerack for more than "this tire is great!"

 

[RUevolution36]

I've had great success with Michelin high performance tires. Both in terms of longevity and grip. Much more so than with similar Pirelli tires.

But that's on sports cars. Could be a different story with sedans or SUVs.

i had michelin mxm4's on my old car. was absolute dog doo doo in bad weather and not enough grip for a FWD with decent power. the cross climate 2's i have on this car fit the profile better. a GT class tire that rides comfortably, and is a beast in the wet. not as good as the goodyear eagles in terms of grip and performance in the dry, but 100x better in non-ideal situations.