OT: Another Bermuda grass question
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MSMA is banned. In my experience with msma it only works good on dallisgrass but it's the only thing that works on it.
As for other stuff, you might could spray at night or early in the morning. It should tell you on the label of whatever you buy
As for other stuff, you might could spray at night or early in the morning. It should tell you on the label of whatever you buy
Thought it was banned also but one can still get it????? My supplier said he still can get it?
Works on other things....spray my 3.5 acres about 3 times per year and the only thing growing is zoysia and bermuda grass. And the zoysia is winning.
Works on other things....spray my 3.5 acres about 3 times per year and the only thing growing is zoysia and bermuda grass. And the zoysia is winning.
You can still get MSMA, it will burn your Bermuda but it will come out of it. It should get most if not all your broad leaves. If you can get MSMA you should be able to get Grazon Next, it's not labeled for yards but I use it all the time. It's more of a pasture broadleaf product.
I know golf courses and such places are allowed to have it but I think even they are limited in the amount of sprays in a year
My experience w/ MSMA
I've got bermudagrass and always used MSMA to kill crabgrass and grassy weeds after my crabgrass preventer tuckered out in the summer. For broadleaf weeds I always used Weed Out from the co-op, or even just any weed killer from Lowes that said it killed broadleaf stuff and was ok to use on bermudagrass. For crabgrass and grassy weeds, MSMA was the bomb - it'd kill it w/ one application and wouldn't slow down my bermudagrass at all.
When MSMA went away, I called a landscaping buddy of mine. He recommended something called Weed Out With Q (the "Q" stands for some long chemical word). He warned me that it wasn't going to be nearly as good as MSMA was, and he was right. When you spray the first time, it'll knock crabgrass down and yellow it up - along w/ the bermudagrass around it - but won't kill it. Usu have to do a second application a week or two later. Basically, for about 3 weeks your bermudagrass will brown/yellow up some, then eventually turn green again and the crabgrass will be dead.
If all you're trying to kill is broadleaf stuff, either get some Weed Out from the co-op or anything from Lowes that says it kills broadleaf weeds and is safe on bermudagrass. Most of that stuff is pretty foolproof and and won't impact your grass at all.
I've got bermudagrass and always used MSMA to kill crabgrass and grassy weeds after my crabgrass preventer tuckered out in the summer. For broadleaf weeds I always used Weed Out from the co-op, or even just any weed killer from Lowes that said it killed broadleaf stuff and was ok to use on bermudagrass. For crabgrass and grassy weeds, MSMA was the bomb - it'd kill it w/ one application and wouldn't slow down my bermudagrass at all.
When MSMA went away, I called a landscaping buddy of mine. He recommended something called Weed Out With Q (the "Q" stands for some long chemical word). He warned me that it wasn't going to be nearly as good as MSMA was, and he was right. When you spray the first time, it'll knock crabgrass down and yellow it up - along w/ the bermudagrass around it - but won't kill it. Usu have to do a second application a week or two later. Basically, for about 3 weeks your bermudagrass will brown/yellow up some, then eventually turn green again and the crabgrass will be dead.
If all you're trying to kill is broadleaf stuff, either get some Weed Out from the co-op or anything from Lowes that says it kills broadleaf weeds and is safe on bermudagrass. Most of that stuff is pretty foolproof and and won't impact your grass at all.
MSMA is your best bet for cleaning up your yard. It will burn the **** out of your yard and you will think you killed it but it will come back out. MSMA is lights out on most yard weed problems like crab grass and is great on nut sage. There are occasional resistant problems with crab grass but you should be fine. They still do sell it. I've got 20 gallons tight now sitting in the shed.
MSMA is the ****. its going to brown your bermuda, but it comes back like others have said. check your local co op. found mine at the madison county co op in canton. im fairly new to the weed fighting game and it is killing the things i am asking it to kill but preserving the bermuda base. i had new sod and some of it was the snickelfritz so to speak with some of the squares seemingly totally crabgrass, but my yard has turned a total 360.....then, when you think its done, an additional 180 for a grand total of 540.**
MSMA does wonders on my grassy weeds but doesn't do anything for my broadleaf. Every summer I get spurge after the pre emergent wears off and I've always gone with 2-4-D. As hot as it is, I probably wouldn't do the whole yard but you can spot spray with a little less than full strength. It will burn the bermuda a little but it comes back like with MSMA. The guy I get my yard chemicals from recommended that I start putting a pre emergent out in Oct, Feb and May.
My pH is 2. I may as well have concrete. I had a thread a couple months ago about grass and I think I'll end up doing centipede
You can grow stomach bacteria in 2. You may be able to use the dirt as a nice vinegar rub.
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