Up to #25. Good resurgence. Still can’t stand them but I’ll give credit
OT: Anyone notice Seton Hall
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I like Coach Sha and I do pull for any NJ team when they aren't playing us. But its super frustrating to see that team have success while we languish. I know they spent more on NIL than we did but it's still hard to swallow.
They won 7 games last year. Things are very volatile in college basketball right now.
They bought a new team and made good choices along the way
I hope that never happens again, but I do think that every season is a new opportunity these days. It's weird to get used to it, but that is the silver lining, I guess.
If anything it gives you hope instead of being stuck in a years-long rebuild. But as others said, you need to choose and spend wisely like SHU appears to have done.
Sure, in today's world
Throw out any school loyalty and pride, sign with the highest bidder
Cheer for a team that could be gone in total next year
I personally don't get too fond of any players,on our team and the,enjoyment is minimal
College athletics, at least for the revenue sports, is dead.
It has been replaced by a semipro (or maybe just flat out pro) system using university facilities and branding, largely unregulated.
Not saying this is good or bad. A whole lot of Indiana football fans think it's great. As the old adage goes, where you stand depends on where you sit.
It has been replaced by a semipro (or maybe just flat out pro) system using university facilities and branding, largely unregulated.
Not saying this is good or bad. A whole lot of Indiana football fans think it's great. As the old adage goes, where you stand depends on where you sit.
Speaking of pro sports, does the NBA have as much turnover as college basketball every year now?
I’m guessing not since there are more multi-year contracts in the NBA, and other rules governing trades, etc., and it’s a much tighter entity than 360 D1 schools with varying levels of funding and scholarship rules, etc.
Gonna have to figure out a way to have more structure in the new pro-college game, because right now it’s the wild west.
I’m guessing not since there are more multi-year contracts in the NBA, and other rules governing trades, etc., and it’s a much tighter entity than 360 D1 schools with varying levels of funding and scholarship rules, etc.
Gonna have to figure out a way to have more structure in the new pro-college game, because right now it’s the wild west.
Unfortunately, the only silver lining is the silver bullion these so called student athletes are being paid.
Theyre fun to watch. Theyre tough as nails and play hard. They remind me of our 2019-2020 team which imo was pikes best team
Reasons it’s better
Ratings say it’s better nationally
the pool of talent going to the pros is now better and more experienced for the transition if you care about that sort of thing
Rutgers fans may feel like they are further away from being competitive but the reality of this era is that the spectrum of programs that actually CAN win big is MUCH bigger than it was in the previous era
college football was dominated for 15 years by 5-6 programs … now everyone has a shot
basketball similar… in reality Rutgers has a better chance to be successful now on a larger scale than ever it’s a matter of choice to be part of it
RU fans should be praying that Sha gets poached next coaching carousel cycle. The last thing we need is him making this success a trend.
Nope.
As you point out - the NBA is a collection of teams actually working together as a single league.
The Lakers aren't trying to change the rules so they can make the playoffs instead of the Timberwolves.
Eastern Conference isn't trying to habe their own media deals so their teams have money than the Western Conference.
Trying to get 10 Eastern Conference playoff teams while the Western Conference only gets 6.
NIL and paying players isn't the problem with college atheltics.
That's a symptom.
The problem is every school, team and conference have zero interest improving the sport for EVERYONE.
Instead they actively try to skew the landscape for themselves only. At the expense of everyone else.
Even within conferences - see the rumblings of uneven conference distributions even within the B1G.
Its not the matter of Rutgers or any program having a better or worse chance of success in the new environment
Its that its all business now, there is no loyalty or pride in a program
I don't enjoy it as I did, when we assumed that players cared, and no major changes
You might like it better, but it stinks as a business
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I’d rather Seton Hall and Rutgers are both successful. It makes for a much better rivalry.
This.
It’s taken me half the season to have more than a passing interest in RU bball this year, because we had no history with our 10 new players (9 eligible).
And now that I’m starting to warm up to some of these guys, they might all be gone next year.
My first real disappointment with this stuff was when Eugene Omoruyi,
Who Suddenly transferred pretty much without warning
I had always,thought he was a warrior for us, playing through injuries, and celebrating with the team during victories, etc
That was the first shocker, followed by Spencer, who.was a one year rental, it turned out, when we assumed we would have him again
No loyalty, no nothing
HA.. I started with Dhantey Jones, Gregory Echeneki (sp!), and Mike Rosario.
Dhantey Jones was such a late transfer and was only the second one that Duke took in its history up to that point (I think the guy from St. John's was one year before). Luis Flores could have been a very good player for us and was on the record as saying he would have stayed had he known that Jones was leaving. Plus, Jay Wiliams may well have stuck with RU if his buddy Jones had decided to stay, even though his parents wanted Duke. So, he was the biggest gut punch of them all. I think we all know that there were strong rumors of other issues with Rosario as well as his buddy Corey. With GE, at least there was another impactful center.
Eugene transfer was a shocker. I know he had his reasons, some that were speculated on here, but I often wonder if part of his calculus was, since he had to sit out a year, that it would allow his body to fully heal while he worked on his game.
We all saw how much he improved each year, so he was a very hard worker. He may have thought a year of just practicing would help catapult his talent into the NBA. If so, it was a good calculation on his part.
I guess 2 things:
- the rivalry is better when they’re good and we’re good. It was looking ominous for them last year.
- it’s totally possible to bounce back from a catastrophic season with NIL and an infusion of talent
Of course
My examples were with the NIL in mind, those others were for long established transfer reasons
Pretty sure Jay Williams (strong RU lean at one point) had already arrived at Duke (freshman year) and he played a role in Dahntay Jones transferring there. Some here thought Jones would never see the floor at Duke and he ended up being a key starter and NBA player. Jones and Williams would have been a great combo for RU but we are always cursed.
The last NBA collective bargaining agreement has actually forced some level of parity. It's harder to make trades and there are stiff financial penalties for exceeding certain payroll levels. Needless to say, there is considerably less player movement than there is in college basketball.
Those rumblings will become an earthquake. A big reason why the NFL is so popular is that there is an interest in creating a level playing field. That keeps more people interested. The Super Bowl is always the most watched program regardless of who's playing in it. The NFL doesn't resort to a ridiculous selection process to choose playoff teams.
I probably posted this years and years ago when it seemed more relevant, but when Jay was coming out of Duke, or perhaps in his last year there, I had occasion to have about a 30-minute phone call with his mother. We covered the point of the call for most of that time, but I asked her a few things about Jay's recruitment. She told me that he was dead set on Rutgers. Absolutely non-negotiable to him. In fact, she told me he was literally crying (how much, I don't know -- tearing up, sobbing -- who knows? But she said "crying") on the ride down to Durham because he already knew where he wanted to go and he thought by taking the visit -- at his mom's insistence -- that he was being disloyal to Rutgers and Kevin Bannon (I guess it was him, right?). She told him he had to take the visit to Duke, and if he still wanted to go to Rutgers, he could call and commit on the way home. Of course, he committed to Coach K before he even left. Now, that was a tough one for you guys because it wasn't like he didn't want to go to Rutgers, and if he had another mother, maybe he'd have never made it to Durham at all. Are you always cursed? That is one data point, I guess.
FWIW about NIL impacting peoples feelings and attachment I can promise you we all would’ve loved to be Indiana last night no matter how they accomplished it
Cignetti did what everyone pumped up Deion would do at Colorado but with less hype. He also brought over most of his own guys from JMU and truthfully used the portal and NIL the right way … a real success story of this era
Cignetti did what everyone pumped up Deion would do at Colorado but with less hype. He also brought over most of his own guys from JMU and truthfully used the portal and NIL the right way … a real success story of this era
Indiana spent a ton on hoops in the portal and currently are headed to miss the NCAA tourney