OT: back surgery

crushing

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My back went out again. Lumbar L4/L5. I'd like to hear success and failure stories with back surgeries. Tired of this back pain.
 

Indndawg

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"went out" means.....a) bulging disc?
b) herniated disc?
c) strained muscle?
d) sprained ligaments?

I had a bulging L4 causing me hell. No surgery....lots a therapy and weight loss....Rarely bothers me.
My wife a herniated disc (L3) in 86 following a wreck...and the surgery was successfull but w/tons on scar tissue and the pre op was not fun (myogram)
She had L4 herniated and it was ressected in 04 and she was up and walking the next day and out the hospital in 2 days. That was 10 years ago, the advances in back surgery are beyond comprehension. You need a dr to inform you of exactly what's wrong...sounds like a badly bulging disc.
 

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Bulging disc. Happens 1 or 2 times a yr. usually puts me down for about 3 days before it settles. Thanks for reply.
 

willi13

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Bulging disc just means two things: exercise and lose weight. However, if you exercise, you more than likely will miss weight. Combine this with flexibility exercise such as yoga, and your episodes should decrease in regularity.
 

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I'm by no means overweight and I workout on regular basis, but not the kind of wo that would help back. I do free weights and the like. I know I need more cardio.
 

willi13

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Didn't mean to insinuate you were fat. Just that surgery should be your very last option.
 

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I had a surgery when I had no other choice. Years after surgery, lack of exercise had my back in bad shape. Long story short, Pilates and a personal trainer helped me many times over more than and doctor, drug, injection, or exercise sheet from a doctor.

I wish I had tried Pilates before the surgery. Although I probably would have still needed the surgery. I had a severe herniation.

I'm 15 years post surgery and I'm doing really well.

My only other advise is never ever get a fusion unless you are incapacitated and are incapable of walking. The long term success rate for those is 50%. And if it doesn't work, you are permanently screwed.
 

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Should really go see a physical therapist before considering any surgery. Was having trouble with my Lower back and discovered it was merely tightness in my L5 ligaments. After having him work on it with massage therapy and yoga work on my own, the pain is gone.
 
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Bulging disc just means two things: exercise and lose weight. However, if you exercise, you more than likely will miss weight. Combine this with flexibility exercise such as yoga, and your episodes should decrease in regularity.
Very true, I had surgery on my neck, which was causing back pain among other issues... My advice would be if you decide to see a neurosurgeon really do your homework. It's amazing how they have different opinions. I can give you a good referral if you go that route. Send me a pm...
 

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I have a buddy that has gotten total relief of his back pain through a set of

stretching exercises he does on a regular basis. He swears by them. I agree with the consensus of the board that surgery on the back should be last resort.
 

Indndawg

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Lotsa stretching...esp the glutes and hammies

I'm by no means overweight and I workout on regular basis, but not the kind of wo that would help back. I do free weights and the like. I know I need more cardio.

and lower back....target lower back muscle to strengthen it.
 

CEO2044

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Thanks for all your replies. Stretching is 1 thing I don't do enough of.

A back is one of the last things I'd want surgery on. Some go right, a lot help maybe a little and some are worthless. Having a strong core will help you take the strain off of your back, doing back extension exercises will encourage the vertebrae to kind of get back in alignment, and I'd recommend finding a physical therapist that specializes in manual therapy for back issues. Just my thoughts. They might put you on a traction machine as well to stretch the joints and see if negative pressure will kind of suck them back into their spot.
 

misipi

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Get the McKenzie Exercise book

I learned about it on here 6 months ago or longer and I still do the exercises as often as I can. They are very simple stretches that reestablish the curvature in your spine and neck. I've been getting massages every 2 weeks for over 3 years because my back always hurt. Now those massages feel good..... can't make myself give them up but these stretches really work, even for severe back issues such as yours. I'm sure there will be many more posters that will tell you.

It's amazing!
 

RocketDawg

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My back issues are different from yours, but I can relate to the pain. I have degenerated discs in that same area, and spinal stenosis. I go to the pain clinic for shots every three months or so and that makes the condition tolerable. I went to a neurosurgeon, and he said he could make it a lot better, or fix it, but basically I wouldn't like the recovery period and that there's no immediate need. So no surgery for me.

I have a fried who's having his second back surgery in less than a year. We'll see how that works out. But I've heard too many horror stories of things going wrong that I'm going to live with mine until surgery is absolutely necessary.
 

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I've had an inversion frame for over a decade. It's worked wonders for me.

My lumbar makes a nice lazy S in the wrong plane.
Sciatic nerve would get pinched a few times a year and put me down for a few days.
Hanging upside down does the trick now. I only do it when I feel an episode coming on.
I can usually correlate the pain to either lifting something too heavy days before, or standing in one place for too long.

I doubt these things work for all conditions and I always wonder if I'm going to find an aneurysm.
 

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"went out" means.....a) bulging disc?
b) herniated disc?
c) strained muscle?
d) sprained ligaments?

I had a bulging L4 causing me hell. No surgery....lots a therapy and weight loss....Rarely bothers me.
My wife a herniated disc (L3) in 86 following a wreck...and the surgery was successfull but w/tons on scar tissue and the pre op was not fun (myogram)
She had L4 herniated and it was ressected in 04 and she was up and walking the next day and out the hospital in 2 days. That was 10 years ago, the advances in back surgery are beyond comprehension. You need a dr to inform you of exactly what's wrong...sounds like a badly bulging disc.

Absolutely.

Here is an excellent Doc.



 

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I have degenerative disc disease as well. I have an inversion table as well. I think I need to get that book and start stretching religiously. I hurt it playing golf. After a drive, I bent down to pick up tee and that's when it went out. I hear golf is really bad on a back. Anyway, thanks for all the responses and recommendations.
 

RocketDawg

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I don't have any trouble with golf, except I can't walk very far without pain, and bending over to tee the ball or getting it out of the cup. Swinging is OK. And I play 4 days a week when the weather allows, and I use a cart.

I hurt mine picking up my cat, but it was already in pretty sad shape with the degeneration. Was a matter of time. It doesn't take much to injure your back, but the stretches (if done carefully and correctly) help. I did several weeks of PT and that didn't help, but over a long time period it probably would.
 

misipi

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Rocketdawg, get the book. It's a damn miracle....

I don't have any trouble with golf, except I can't walk very far without pain, and bending over to tee the ball or getting it out of the cup. Swinging is OK. And I play 4 days a week when the weather allows, and I use a cart.

I hurt mine picking up my cat, but it was already in pretty sad shape with the degeneration. Was a matter of time. It doesn't take much to injure your back, but the stretches (if done carefully and correctly) help. I did several weeks of PT and that didn't help, but over a long time period it probably would.

"7 Steps to a pain free life" by Robin Mckenzie