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The Cooterpoot

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If you haven't had Old Dominick's, do it! Had the chance to try their selections of bourbon and all of it was really good. Price points vary fro the 8 yr old Reserve which is insanely fantastic and over that $75 threshold to the single batch, and cask strength. I went home with the cask strength and it's just short of 124 proof but it's soooo good. Basically $50-$75 depending on where you buy for most other stuff. Oh, it's made in Memphis. Cask was a 6 yr old.
 
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TXDawg.sixpack

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Speaking of bourbon, for those of you that live in Texas, Specs is having an amazing bourbon sale right now. I found these deals last week:

Blue Note Uncut Unfiltered (Specs Pick) - $32
Knob Creek 12 - $63
EH Taylor Small Batch - $54

If you haven‘t tried Blue Note Uncut, go find it. It’s also made in Memphis (to circle back to the OP).
 
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The Cooterpoot

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I concur 👍 the Blue Note. It's a good pour! The Dominick's 8 yr old Reserve is better than it. I almost died on EH Taylor lol. Knob Creek is meh to me but at 12 yrs old, nothing is terrible.
The Salvage Store in Folsom, LA is having a booze sale too by the way. Fri/Sat
 

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Publix in Florida has $4.00 off and additional $10 off Jim beam handles. It is basically BOGO compared to what I paid in Alabama.
 

The Cooterpoot

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The "craft" bourbon being put out is really good stuff for the most part. I can't remember the last time I had a big brand bourbon.
 

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I normally drink Scotch but recently talked with a couple of friends that drink bourbon. One recommended Wild Turkey 101 for its value. I got a bottle and have enjoyed it neat. Then I tried it with one ice cube and enjoyed it even more. Whiskey reviewers always test with and without water or ice. The other recommendation was Angel's envy. I tried it neat at Harvey's and really like it.
 
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Darryl Steight

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The house bourbon at Taste is Benchmark, so I've been drinking it lately. It's out of Buffalo Trace, so I had seen it but never really focused enough to try it. It's really good, especially at the price point.
 
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The house bourbon at Taste is Benchmark, so I've been drinking it lately. It's out of Buffalo Trace, so I had seen it but never really focused enough to try it. It's really good, especially at the price point.
It is Buffalo Trace just younger. Crazy price point and fantastic mixer.
 
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Bulldog Bruce

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The "craft" bourbon being put out is really good stuff for the most part. I can't remember the last time I had a big brand bourbon.
Bourbon and Tequila are both going through such a wave over the past few years. I know that actual "craft" distilleries have opened up but it seems many of these newer labels, especially when a celebrity is involved, are just some sort of already established distiller with non descript barrels stored somewhere in Kentucky or fields full of mature Agave that the celebrity puts their name on.

I mean Bourbon takes a minimum of 3 years to get to market and 8 to 10 to age the good stuff. Tequila it takes 6 to 10 years to grow the Blue Agave so the age requirement is on the front end of that business. Seems they both require a huge commitment just to get started.
 
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The house bourbon at Taste is Benchmark, so I've been drinking it lately. It's out of Buffalo Trace, so I had seen it but never really focused enough to try it. It's really good, especially at the price point.
Never heard of that one, but I’ll have to give it a try. I’m not sure that over ever had anything bad out of the Buffalo Trace distillery
 

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I mean Bourbon takes a minimum of 3 years to get to market and 8 to 10 to age the good stuff. Tequila it takes 6 to 10 years to grow the Blue Agave so the age requirement is on the front end of that business. Seems they both require a huge commitment just to get started.
Not down south. The heat and humidity speed up the aging process. Basically a similar deal with Jeffersons that they throw on a boat. I toured the Crittenden distillery in Kiln a couple months ago. It's really good! Is it a 10 yr old? No, but they use so many different casks and things for differing notes that's it's really good. It's basically all a 6 to 8 year old bourbon, Aged 4-6 years.
 

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The house bourbon at Taste is Benchmark, so I've been drinking it lately. It's out of Buffalo Trace, so I had seen it but never really focused enough to try it. It's really good, especially at the price point.
On this note, Ancient Age 95 Proof if you can find it, and Very Old Barton's especially the 90 proof.
 

Bulldog Bruce

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Not down south. The heat and humidity speed up the aging process. Basically a similar deal with Jeffersons that they throw on a boat. I toured the Crittenden distillery in Kiln a couple months ago. It's really good! Is it a 10 yr old? No, but they use so many different casks and things for differing notes that's it's really good. It's basically all a 6 to 8 year old bourbon, Aged 4-6 years.
Not sure what your response is about. I said minimum of 3 years so you are saying it only takes 4 in the South? It is still a long time to get to market. I also said there are actual "craft" distilleries. I was just also warning people that many of these newer Bourbons and Tequilas are just marketing already produced products. You really think The Rock is out in the fields helping plant the agave 8 years ago and now harvesting it with Mana?
 

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Not sure what your response is about. I said minimum of 3 years so you are saying it only takes 4 in the South? It is still a long time to get to market. I also said there are actual "craft" distilleries. I was just also warning people that many of these newer Bourbons and Tequilas are just marketing already produced products. You really think The Rock is out in the fields helping plant the agave 8 years ago and now harvesting it with Mana?
The 8-10 year aging.....don't go off the rails on me lol. There are a lot of new, family owned craft distilleries opening up across the the south, and they're producing really good bourbon. Most of the larger distilleries produce a lot of bad bourbon IMO. Those absolutely have to be a 10 year generally, otherwise they suck! And they're going to price those ridiculously too. You can get a "craft" bourbon that's much better than the larger produced stuff. I'm anxious to see how many of these end up selling out to larger companies down the road.
 

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The 8-10 year aging.....don't go off the rails on me lol. There are a lot of new, family owned craft distilleries opening up across the the south, and they're producing really good bourbon. Most of the larger distilleries produce a lot of bad bourbon IMO. Those absolutely have to be a 10 year generally, otherwise they suck! And they're going to price those ridiculously too. You can get a "craft" bourbon that's much better than the larger produced stuff. I'm anxious to see how many of these end up selling out to larger companies down the road.
Fine. But I'm talking about apples and you are talking about oranges. I never said that true craft distillers didn't exist and don't produce some good products. I am just pointing out that there are many pure marketing brands that have also popped up over the past 10 years. I don't know about aging in the distilling bourbon process and if there are ways to speed it up. Truthfully I don't know if 20 year Bourbon is better than 15 which is better than 10 which is better than 8 etc. I just know if I like it and that is all that matters to me. There are $20 bourbons I like very much and there are $80 bourbons that are just okay.
 

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46 Maker's Mark
Ball knower. Do I have expensive bourbons? Yes. Can I really tell the difference in all of them? Not really. Can 90% of the guys who are talking in this thread tell the difference either? Likely not.
I can tell the difference in a wheated and a rye, and I can tell you when I don't like something. If you put Buffalo Trace or Makers 46 in a bottle of some $200 bourbon, that 90% would say it was fantastic.
I'll save my money and enjoy those two bourbons just as much as I'd enjoy a bottle of Pappy.
 

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Fine. But I'm talking about apples and you are talking about oranges. I never said that true craft distillers didn't exist and don't produce some good products. I am just pointing out that there are many pure marketing brands that have also popped up over the past 10 years. I don't know about aging in the distilling bourbon process and if there are ways to speed it up. Truthfully I don't know if 20 year Bourbon is better than 15 which is better than 10 which is better than 8 etc. I just know if I like it and that is all that matters to me. There are $20 bourbons I like very much and there are $80 bourbons that are just okay.
My wife says I need to find those $20 bourbon because I tend to drift between 80 and 120
 
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Ball knower. Do I have expensive bourbons? Yes. Can I really tell the difference in all of them? Not really. Can 90% of the guys who are talking in this thread tell the difference either? Likely not.
I can tell the difference in a wheated and a rye, and I can tell you when I don't like something. If you put Buffalo Trace or Makers 46 in a bottle of some $200 bourbon, that 90% would say it was fantastic.
I'll save my money and enjoy those two bourbons just as much as I'd enjoy a bottle of Pappy.
When I have friends over I break out the "good" craft stuff. When I'm home alone and just want an Old Fashioned, I drink Four Roses.
 

TXDawg.sixpack

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Not down south. The heat and humidity speed up the aging process. Basically a similar deal with Jeffersons that they throw on a boat. I toured the Crittenden distillery in Kiln a couple months ago. It's really good! Is it a 10 yr old? No, but they use so many different casks and things for differing notes that's it's really good. It's basically all a 6 to 8 year old bourbon, Aged 4-6 years.
My experience is different. The Texas distilleries try to tell the story that "we get the same aging in 2-3 years that takes 6-8 years in Kentucky", but I've found it to just not be true. TX whiskeys just taste thin and flat compared to the longer aged products.
 
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When I have friends over I break out the "good" craft stuff. When I'm home alone and just want an Old Fashioned, I drink Four Roses.
Just not a big fan of rye, but if I get one I enjoy Angels Envy
 
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And Eagle Rare is just the better barrels of BT, aged 10+ years.

At least that's what I remember from when I could find it easily and pay $30 or less.
Eagle Rare is a very good, smooth bourbon, about 90 proof. IMO one of the best bourbons for the price out there, especially for Buffalo Trace.
You can get a glass of it for $10 at Georgia Blue in Starkvegas.
 
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I see people saying this a lot and I don't understand it. I can find either of those every day in south MS.
All depends on where you live. I can tell you that ER is somewhat easy to find where I live. Haven't see the 12 year ER yet. EHT is going to be $100 and not in the open. You'll have to "qualify" to purchase it.
 
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All depends on where you live. I can tell you that ER is somewhat easy to find where I live. Haven't see the 12 year ER yet. EHT is going to be $100 and not in the open. You'll have to "qualify" to purchase it.
Depends on which EHT you're talking about. I see it all the time, from the lesser to the higher ones. Higher ones are harder to find for sure! Midrange ones are pretty available. Eagle is a good one and an exception. I can even go with some of the Angels Envy (rye). But I rarely drink anything below 110 proof because I'd rather sip on the notes than get drunk on the skunk. Markers 46 cask is right there and it's ok. But give me all the more local stuff over any large produced big name lesser aged etc. They simply are better. I don't touch damn Trace, it's trash!
But yea, when you start talking 12+ years, and higher end stuff I'm with you. This Old Dominick's 8 yr old is really good and their cask strength is too even at a 6 yr old. But they're 123 proof too. The taste completely changes with the higher proofing. Not a big fan of Makers 46 but their cask about 110 is better to me. The larger groups haven't really mastered that much yet IMO. Crittenden using all the different backs types really creates something different too. Anxious to try Acadian soon. Good thing about the locals are they rarely go above that $70 mark.
 
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Depends on which EHT you're talking about. I see it all the time, from the lesser to the higher ones. Higher ones are harder to find for sure! Midrange ones are pretty available. Eagle is a good one and an exception. I can even go with some of the Angels Envy (rye). But I rarely drink anything below 110 proof because I'd rather sip on the notes than get drunk on the skunk. Markers 46 cask is right there and it's ok. But give me all the more local stuff over any large produced big name lesser aged etc. They simply are better. I don't touch damn Trace, it's trash!
But yea, when you start talking 12+ years, and higher end stuff I'm with you. This Old Dominick's 8 yr old is really good and their cask strength is too even at a 6 yr old. But they're 123 proof too. The taste completely changes with the higher proofing. Not a big fan of Makers 46 but their cask about 110 is better to me. The larger groups haven't really mastered that much yet IMO. Crittenden using all the different backs types really creates something different too. Anxious to try Acadian soon. Good thing about the locals are they rarely go above that $70 mark.
Where I am, even the small batch is hidden behind the counter. Single barrel and rye come around twice a year and will cost $130-150. Hell, "green" Weller is $70+ in my neck of the woods.
 

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Forget chasing Buffalo Trace / Sazerac stuff. Eagle Rare, EH Taylor, Blantons, Weller, all of it is way way way overhyped.
A bottle of Buffalo Trace should not cost you more than $25-27 depending where you live. If your local store is hoarding it behind the counter and doling it out for $40 tell them to pound sand. All the major distillers are sitting on tons and tons of barrels that aren't moving as fast as they were the last few years. We're about to see a wave of products come flooding in that are normally impossible to find.

Right now EH Taylor small batch is sitting in floor displays all over Texas and Illinois. Eagle Rare is on every shelf in Georgia. Weller green and red are all over Ohio. These are test markets, trying to find what price point it becomes shelf stable.
 

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Ball knower. Do I have expensive bourbons? Yes. Can I really tell the difference in all of them? Not really. Can 90% of the guys who are talking in this thread tell the difference either? Likely not.
I can tell the difference in a wheated and a rye, and I can tell you when I don't like something. If you put Buffalo Trace or Makers 46 in a bottle of some $200 bourbon, that 90% would say it was fantastic.
I'll save my money and enjoy those two bourbons just as much as I'd enjoy a bottle of Pappy.
Most people taste what they want to taste and go along with the usuals for their groups. I'm certainly no expert but I like to try different bourbons. Many are bad IMO, but sometimes you get a good surprise from one you didn't expect. I rarely go above $120 bottles myself, so my range is limited.
 
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Forget chasing Buffalo Trace / Sazerac stuff. Eagle Rare, EH Taylor, Blantons, Weller, all of it is way way way overhyped.
A bottle of Buffalo Trace should not cost you more than $25-27 depending where you live. If your local store is hoarding it behind the counter and doling it out for $40 tell them to pound sand. All the major distillers are sitting on tons and tons of barrels that aren't moving as fast as they were the last few years. We're about to see a wave of products come flooding in that are normally impossible to find.

Right now EH Taylor small batch is sitting in floor displays all over Texas and Illinois. Eagle Rare is on every shelf in Georgia. Weller green and red are all over Ohio. These are test markets, trying to find what price point it becomes shelf stable.
If you know of any liquor stores in the metroplex that has EH Taylor in floor displays please help a brother out and share where they are.
 
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