OT: Chokwe Lumumba, how would you judge his performance thus far.
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I've been really impressed so far. He has surpassed what I expected - which wasn't much.
He came and spoke at our annual neighborhood association meeting and showed why we needed to raise our sewer rates. He is actually fixing streets in NE Jackson (i.e. Sheffield). I'm just waiting for the crazy to start though.
The problem is the city council and county board. The sooner the Stokes get out - the better which I know will never happen.
He came and spoke at our annual neighborhood association meeting and showed why we needed to raise our sewer rates. He is actually fixing streets in NE Jackson (i.e. Sheffield). I'm just waiting for the crazy to start though.
The problem is the city council and county board. The sooner the Stokes get out - the better which I know will never happen.
Fixing sewer problems on Sheffield. That is very surprising good news. Most people I've talked to have pretty much the same opinion as most on here. So far, he's done a lot better than anyone expected. He's facing the city's problems and coming up with solutions, and he isn't afraid to raise taxes/rates when it's necessary. Nobody wants to pay more, but Jackson's water/sewer system is on the verge of a major failure if something isn't done soon.
Now if only you didn't have to take out a 2nd mortgage to educate your children inside Jackson proper.
I live in Gluckstadt for one reason and you nailed it. My wife and I often
discuss how so many people can afford to send their kids to private schools in Jackson and why they choose to do it other than the obvious social reasons which I'm sure fits you to a T. Look on the bright side, you will feel like you got a pay raise when she goes to MSU.
discuss how so many people can afford to send their kids to private schools in Jackson and why they choose to do it other than the obvious social reasons which I'm sure fits you to a T. Look on the bright side, you will feel like you got a pay raise when she goes to MSU.
Yeah, I wonder about the District 2 general election...
Hoping McQuirter defeats Hunter as I'm not a fan of people promising they won't run when appointed to positions as interim officials and then decide to compete. With that said, I'm a District 4 resident.
Hoping McQuirter defeats Hunter as I'm not a fan of people promising they won't run when appointed to positions as interim officials and then decide to compete. With that said, I'm a District 4 resident.
Where do you live? we must be close neighbors.....but the private schools....
let me say this, I live in NE Jxn, not by choice, (married to old Prep/UM gal and refuses to move to anywhere), but we have both of ours at FPDS....and yes, its very expensive. But let me tell you, I will take out a second mortgage or get a second job to keep mine there. The tuition rates go up every year depending on grade....but it is well worth it. The things my kids come home learning about schooling, technology, and most importantly, God and the Bible is amazing. My nephew is in Madison public schools (where I grew up) and they are the same grade. The education curriculums are a very glaring night and day difference. My brother in law and sister are so impressed, that they are considering moving him to FPDS or MRA because the public school systems are very handcuffed on curriculums, moreso now than ever before, and making that drive every day to do so.
I used to be pro 'great public schools' vs private schools, but i have a different view now. Even the best public schools still have to follow what the govt says they can and cannot do. I think you know where i am going with this and i will leave it at that.
as far as Chukwe is concerned, I havent seen any change for the good or worse yet. All I know is that the same craka hatin ***** who answers the 960-1111 call to come clean out my storm drain is still answering said phone, and my storm drain is still full of gravel from a water main break.
let me say this, I live in NE Jxn, not by choice, (married to old Prep/UM gal and refuses to move to anywhere), but we have both of ours at FPDS....and yes, its very expensive. But let me tell you, I will take out a second mortgage or get a second job to keep mine there. The tuition rates go up every year depending on grade....but it is well worth it. The things my kids come home learning about schooling, technology, and most importantly, God and the Bible is amazing. My nephew is in Madison public schools (where I grew up) and they are the same grade. The education curriculums are a very glaring night and day difference. My brother in law and sister are so impressed, that they are considering moving him to FPDS or MRA because the public school systems are very handcuffed on curriculums, moreso now than ever before, and making that drive every day to do so.
I used to be pro 'great public schools' vs private schools, but i have a different view now. Even the best public schools still have to follow what the govt says they can and cannot do. I think you know where i am going with this and i will leave it at that.
as far as Chukwe is concerned, I havent seen any change for the good or worse yet. All I know is that the same craka hatin ***** who answers the 960-1111 call to come clean out my storm drain is still answering said phone, and my storm drain is still full of gravel from a water main break.
I actually don't. Aren't the curricula pretty standard? I mean, it's not like public schools don't teach geometry or private schools don't teach chemistry. From what I remember about my private school (large one) and what I see at the public school my wife teaches at, there is very little difference. I know at some of the smaller private schools there is a much smaller offering of some electives, but the general math, science, and english stuff is the same. Are we talking standardized testing? Because then I agree with you there. The kids in public school are way over tested.
there are glaring differences...
but i think this falls more along the lines of 'early childhood development' ......leading up to the high school years....
at least, that is my experience so far. My kids are not in HS....but FPDS is a christian based school. Its a matter of opinion, but having that as the foundation of learning all the other things, makes kids better as adults. I have read many fact based studies on it saying so, but i'm going on my opinion.
The things my kids come home with learning, and knowing is nothing I was ever taught in school growing up (I'm 36). Im not going into detail in this thread to open a can of worms, but the stuff they are learning is completely different from what my nephew is learning in madison public schools.
I'm trying to be as vague as I can here bc this could start a 5 page thread on debate. Bottom line is, private schools in jxn are very expensive, and keep me and my wife both working hard. I wanted to move out, but I couldnt imagine leaving the school my kids are going to now. I'm completely sold, and I will flip burgers on the weekends to keep them there if I have to. Take a tour of FPDS if you don't believe me. It will blow you away.
***on a side note, sorry for the lack of fundraising $$ for SPS dawgstudent, the Holiday Potpourri my kids school puts on every year is getting that $25 this year. But I have given every time in the past. This private school thing is expensive.**
but i think this falls more along the lines of 'early childhood development' ......leading up to the high school years....
at least, that is my experience so far. My kids are not in HS....but FPDS is a christian based school. Its a matter of opinion, but having that as the foundation of learning all the other things, makes kids better as adults. I have read many fact based studies on it saying so, but i'm going on my opinion.
The things my kids come home with learning, and knowing is nothing I was ever taught in school growing up (I'm 36). Im not going into detail in this thread to open a can of worms, but the stuff they are learning is completely different from what my nephew is learning in madison public schools.
I'm trying to be as vague as I can here bc this could start a 5 page thread on debate. Bottom line is, private schools in jxn are very expensive, and keep me and my wife both working hard. I wanted to move out, but I couldnt imagine leaving the school my kids are going to now. I'm completely sold, and I will flip burgers on the weekends to keep them there if I have to. Take a tour of FPDS if you don't believe me. It will blow you away.
***on a side note, sorry for the lack of fundraising $$ for SPS dawgstudent, the Holiday Potpourri my kids school puts on every year is getting that $25 this year. But I have given every time in the past. This private school thing is expensive.**
Would agree that the large private schools for the most part deliver a great
education and experience. However, if your child is an achiever in the Madison/Germantown/Clinton/Brandon/NWR etc. districts and is in the advanced classes then I think the educational experience will be similar. The public school kids get an education in the real world pretty quickly where as the private school kids won't get that same education until later on in life, nothing wrong with either approach.
I think the big private schools obviously are better socially for kids because you are rubbing elbows with more money people and your kids can get involved with some of those families which has a lot of benefits. My brother in law did the Prep thing and his kids were great friends with many of the heavy hitters and they enjoyed said benefits. With that said, those benefits tend to end after college but some can obviously last a life time and lead to better life outcomes.
So far my public school educated daughter is excelling in Bio Medical Engineering at MSU but it is early and as Shmuley likes to say it really is a pre-marketing degree for a lot of folks*.
education and experience. However, if your child is an achiever in the Madison/Germantown/Clinton/Brandon/NWR etc. districts and is in the advanced classes then I think the educational experience will be similar. The public school kids get an education in the real world pretty quickly where as the private school kids won't get that same education until later on in life, nothing wrong with either approach.
I think the big private schools obviously are better socially for kids because you are rubbing elbows with more money people and your kids can get involved with some of those families which has a lot of benefits. My brother in law did the Prep thing and his kids were great friends with many of the heavy hitters and they enjoyed said benefits. With that said, those benefits tend to end after college but some can obviously last a life time and lead to better life outcomes.
So far my public school educated daughter is excelling in Bio Medical Engineering at MSU but it is early and as Shmuley likes to say it really is a pre-marketing degree for a lot of folks*.
Yeah, nevermind then.
Won't debate the merits of a religious based education here. I'll say that I went to private school pre-k through high school and never once had a class that dealt with religion in the sense you are talking about. You're situation is more specific to the religious based institutions. Your opinion on the matter is different than mine, but here's not the place. I thought you were saying there was some sort of different science, math, reading, or other studies that private schools did that public didn't. So now back to people being pleasantly surprised that Lumumba is doing some good things.
Won't debate the merits of a religious based education here. I'll say that I went to private school pre-k through high school and never once had a class that dealt with religion in the sense you are talking about. You're situation is more specific to the religious based institutions. Your opinion on the matter is different than mine, but here's not the place. I thought you were saying there was some sort of different science, math, reading, or other studies that private schools did that public didn't. So now back to people being pleasantly surprised that Lumumba is doing some good things.
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Lumumba reads the pack
http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/show...does-Jackson-go-from-here&p=878435#post878435
http://forums.sixpackspeak.com/show...does-Jackson-go-from-here&p=878435#post878435
I'm as pleasantly surprised as the next guy, but that Sheffield sewer fix has been ongoing for a least a year and if not quite a year it certainly predates the mayoral elections.
Exactly.
If a kid applies themselves and strives for excellence, then they will survive and excel anywhere.
If a kid applies themselves and strives for excellence, then they will survive and excel anywhere.
Is the difference that one school learns dinosaurs existed before man and the other school learns man rode dinosaurs?
Ok ok ok, I kid- I dont actually think your kids are learning that.
Just being a bag and taking the thread to the limit.
As for the Lumumba guy- as an out of stater who only sees all this from afar, its good to know he hasnt gone nuts yet. Jackson has enough issues, a crazy mayor that detracts from progress isnt needed.
totally agree.
not to keep this ship going, but I started at MRA and spent 3/4 of my time and finished in madison public schools. I have different opinions on educations public vs. private, faith based learning vs. non, etc....I also believe 90% of early development comes from the home which brings that point of applying themselves and excelling and surviving anywhere.
not to keep this ship going, but I started at MRA and spent 3/4 of my time and finished in madison public schools. I have different opinions on educations public vs. private, faith based learning vs. non, etc....I also believe 90% of early development comes from the home which brings that point of applying themselves and excelling and surviving anywhere.
Again,
dead on. It all starts at home. If the kid(s) is not required to be disciplined or taught to excel, at a young age, then they aren't just going to wake up one day and start on their own.
dead on. It all starts at home. If the kid(s) is not required to be disciplined or taught to excel, at a young age, then they aren't just going to wake up one day and start on their own.
Id say them teaching your kids that evolution doesnt exist doesnt make them better in the long run. Teaching your kids to not think or be reasonable/rational will set them back for life. Maybe that is just me.....
Not trying to lock the thread with a religious debate, but hear me out. I was raised in a Christian household, but my parents had no problems with me learning about the THEORY of evolution in public school, and I'm glad they didn't. Big difference between a theory and a fact. It's the same with biblical teachings, because a great deal of it can't be proven, so its up to the individual to decide whether to believe if its true. I would say christian private schools have better curriculum if they include both sides of the spectrum, as opposed to public schools only discussing evolution. Just my two cents.
Evolution is a theory in the same sense that gravity is a theory. Nothing is a fact in science because future observations may change it. But there's no real debate about whether gravity exists, just like there's no real debate about whether evolution happened (and is continuing to happen).
I think you're wrong there. Scientific facts are supposed to be rock solid forever. Theories have the potential to be changed.
On the verge of being locked, and rightfully so. I will point out that if you look into what has actually been proven about the Theory of Evolution, the facts are sparse. There are substantial gaps in fossil evidence that one would expect to be present had evolution proven true. Science is still looking for proof of this theory that has yet to be found. Gravity is not quite the same.
That being said, without any "spiritual" argument that requires faith, and relying on just the fact that it is indisputable that the Bible is a really old text (rather collection of really texts), I can show numerous cases where the science in the Bible was correct long before the science of the day. Of course there are very common sense discussions that can be had, like the fact from observation that systems (organic or not) simply do not improve over time. They don't.
That being said, I think that the only thing that demands a response is when anyone posts things that are closed-minded and come across as if they genuinely believe that they have all the answers. I'd argue that nobody, Christian or not, has all of the answers (in fact the Bible says that you won't) and to portray it as if yours (or mine) can be the only correct answer always draws a bit of a line in the sand.
This is the stuff that sports message board locks are made of...
Scientific
facts are based upong the evidence present, but are not entirely "fact" in the sense that it can't be changed.
facts are based upong the evidence present, but are not entirely "fact" in the sense that it can't be changed.
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