OT: Crooked Letter Brewing denied by BOS in Jackson County.

[rem101]

They were wanting to build on their own land. Shot down. I really think people in Vancleave are just stupid or hate tax revenue. They earlier bitched about a developer building a neighborhood with houses valued from $200k to $250k with neighborhood pond and walking track because it would bring down the property value. Now they say they don't want this because people will be drinking beer and driving. Unreal.

http://blog.gulflive.com/...y_board_of_superv_8.html

 

[RobbieRandolph]

In a commercially zoned area? I'm not a opposed to the rejection of zoning waivers/exemptions, especially a waiver to let something be put in a residential agricultural zoning area that is neither residential nor agricultural.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

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[MaverickAG]

There are hundreds of breweries operating under similar conditions around the country, often times in less rural areas than this. Hell, Dogfish Head is sitting right in the middle of a Deleware subdivision. So long as the owners are good neighbors and members of the community, there is very little to worry about realistically.<div>
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</div><div>The church in question is under the marker so the owners property starts somewhere between 1000-2000 feet from there. They own 13 acres and the building site was to take up 2 acres.</div><div>
</div><div>https://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF-8&q=Antioch+Cemetery+near+Antioch+Rd+Vancleave,+MS&fb=1&gl=us&hq=Antioch+Cemetery&hnear=0x889bf53e50ba2f75:0x87e87fac215cccca,Antioch+Rd,+Vancleave,+MS+39565&cid=0,0,2677534840421639877&ei=soLgT_CAB4P49QTGlOmoDQ&ved=0CHkQ_BIwAw</div>

 

[RobbieRandolph]

And who cares if other places have breweries in their residential subdivision. I like beer as much as anyone, but I don't want a brewery in my residential area. Am I the enemy now? Of course not.

If they're going to build this thing from the ground up, why can't they simply do it on a commercial zoned plot? I'm looking at it from the standpoint of a zoning and precedent issue.

 

[disappointeddawg]

I support new breweries opening and everything but if it's a money issue since they already own the land in question, why don't they just sell a couple acres and go buy a commercial lot somewhere else. Problem solved. I'm like Robbie, I am big fan of beer but that doesn't mean I want a brewery to open up next door.

 

[missus]

Their "neighbors" are at least 13 miles away. This is a small brewery to be housed in a barn- I am not sure how this affects the aesthetics or residents living near by. From what I understand, the closest neighbors are supportive.

 

[agame]

Jackson County is concerned that if this brewery opens it could lead to dancing.

 

[Big Elly 901]

I can clear a lot of things up for y'all on this. My mom is the one who appealed the building of this brewery. Her property is not "13 miles away." More like a pitching wedge. My aunt and uncle's land backs up to the crooked letter brewery land. My family moved out to Vancleave to get away from Ocean Springs and Gulfport to live in peace and quite away from the noise.


First off, there aren't too many families that enjoy beer more than mine. Also, definitely not atheisits...we are all good church going Catholics, so obviously drinking isn't an issue


Facts are this: the people trying to start this business asked 1 person on Antioch Rd about opening this brewery. They never asked my mom, aunt or uncle or my other cousins, another uncle, or any other resident on this road. They tried to backdoor their way in. I found out about this back in April. I didn't have an opinion at the time because I don't live there. After listening about the stories of the potential brew owners it became clear they're not the best neighboors. When my mom caught wind about this potential brewey opening she was vehemently against it. She was mad they never notified her considering her back yard is the brewery seperated by a small fence. She didn't want to deal with the traffic, noise, smell or hassle of dealing with a commercial business in her backyard. Again, the reason they all moved out there was to avoid this.


My mom dug pretty deep and hard to find out laws and ordinances to prevent the opening of this brewery and found multiple to keep this from opening. Here's the bottom line, don't 17 with my mom. She always wins.


Is my mom against breweries? No
Is she against drinking? No
Is she against having her day to day quality of living messed with? Yes


Another note: every other resident living on this road signed a petition against the brewery. If the owners of the brewery had done what they should have, they would have known it would have never passed.
I hope the Crooked Letter brewery opens. Just not in my mom's yard. They need to find an Industrial area to do it, just like Lazy Magnolia did.

 

[goindhoo]

I can clear a lot of things up for y'all on this. My mom is the one who appealed the building of this brewery. Her property is not "13 miles away." More like a pitching wedge. I hope the Crooked Letter brewery opens. Just not in my mom's yard.

That's a weak *** pitching wedge.

 

[DerHntr]

where someone's closest neighbor is 13 miles in any direction.

 

[fishwater99]

Sounds like a bunch of amateurs. I bet their beer will suck too..

 

[FPDawg]

I do not knw much about this situation but Crooked Letter owns the property and should be able to use it to their desired purpose as long as it does not * directly* harms others or impact their enjoyment of their property. The premise that they should go buy a commercial lot is completely assisne. How would you feel if you bought a residental lot in a non-deed restricted development but some neighbor just decided to ask you to move because you *might* be offensive to them or had a home based business? Property rights are one of the founding premises of this country.

If full disclosure, I hate planning and zoning and purposely purchased a home in a very nice neighborhood without deed restrictions. Amazingly, we have no problems at all.

 

[boomboommsu]

if everyone had to fear what any potential current or future neighbor would do with their adjacent or nearby land, then far fewer people/corps would invest in land. and that would be far worse than the zoning restrictions we have. i live on the coast, am still looking for a suitable place to buy, and i can tell you that if Jackson country approved this, i would never buy there.

then you add on the facilities considerations: the area likely wasn't designed to deliver the power a commercial business might require, the roads may not be designed to handle the extra truck traffic, the water system may not be designed to deliver the high amounts of fresh water a brewery would require, the storm drains may not be designed to handle runoff with much higher conentrations of chemicals, etc etc. areas that need costlier public utilities like that are clumped together to save taxpayer dollars.