Did anyone hear about the huge family brawl that happened at Disneyland this past weekend? I saw a where a friend posted a status about it on Facebook last night so I looked it up. At the beginning of the video a male and a female were arguing about something and she appeared to spit in his face and that’s when it escalated quickly with the two of them getting into a physical fight then it escalated even more after that as more family members got involved in the fight. It’s a 3-5 minute long video but I’m not going to post a link to the video because between the foul language and the graphic nature of the fight I don’t know if it would be ok to post a link to the video. I’ll let the mods decide that and if a mod thinks this thread doesn’t need to be discussed then I’ll leave it up to them if one of them thinks it needs to be deleted. If anyone wants to see the video you can search for it by searching for “Disneyland fight” or Disneyland brawl”.
OT: Disneyland family brawl
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I watched it. That guy will be doing some time, but he said himself he’s ready to go to jail tonight. Give the “man”* what he wants.
*the term “man” should be used loosely when referring to someone that hits women.
*the term “man” should be used loosely when referring to someone that hits women.
I’m still trying to figure out a couple of things from that video. After the guy that said “I’m ready to go to jail tonight” and the girl in the white shirt started fighting (I believe they’re siblings” a bald guy walked up ready to get involved in the fight and just as he threw a punch another girl walked up and he hit her on the side of the head but I’m still trying to figure out if he hit her on purpose or if she just happened to walk by as he threw the punch and he hit her by accident. Then the first guy came after the second guy yelling “you hit my girl? You hit my girl” (he used a different word that I won’t use. Another thing I’m trying to figure out is later in the video the older woman on the motorized scooter tried to intervene and stop the fight (she appeared to be the mom of the first two that started fighting” and she got knocked down when two of the females started fighting (it appeared to be accidental to me) then the “I’m ready to go to jail tonight” guy went after the short girl yelling “you hit my mom? You hit my mom?” Then hit her and started dragging her by her hair until he was pulled off of her and held down by 4 male bystanders then the girl came over and said to him “I was trying to help you when they jumped you”. At first I assumed they he was his girl until he started hitting her then I thought maybe she wasn’t but then I thought she was when she said “I was trying to help you after they jumped you” it was just the craziest thing and if it wasn’t for someone recording it and eventually posting it online then there might not have been any legal repercussions for any of them because the fight had ended before police got there. The police and city attorney are investigating and charges will likely come for several of the people involved in the fight.
Wow.......I don’t care what she said. You DONT punch a female. What a punk
The only people in that family that I feel bad for is the older woman on the motorized scooter because she got knocked down while trying to get her family to stop fighting and the children. One thing that I forgot to include in my OP was that after the older woman on the motorized scooter got knocked down one of the females helped her up and was holding her and then one of the other females came over to help with the older woman, the second female was carrying one of the kids and she sat the kid down to help with the older woman and the kid hit the other woman on the leg which is one of the saddest parts of the video because the kid probably hit the other woman because he saw the adults hitting each other.
I don’t really know what was going on other than idiots fighting at a place designed to be the happiest place on earth for children.
I know a lot of you don't know me. But if we're out and a guy punches a woman, you'll get to see me fight. Bank on it.
I'm sorry but all I could think about is that big guy goes after females MULTIPLE times and nobody steps in until late. I know he is a big guy but come on man, it takes that long for a couple of guys to step in and get him to the ground?
I’d be right there with you buddy. That and messing with friends/family are the only reasons why I would today.
That’s one thing I’ve noticed about these kinds of videos on the internet. The person doing all the talking is usually the one that gets their *** whooped.
The “guy” in the red shirt proved that he can’t fight the second he hit the 2 women.
I’ve seen guys that can absolutely rumble also hit women. It’s 100% wrong but I don’t base my reading of whether someone can fight based on that. Lol.
It’s the quiet ones you need to be wary of....
I finally watched it, the two turds squaring up at the beginning reminded me of a three stooges show. Then in the background you see toontown in big letters,
Pretty effective.
Edit-I had assumed it was rednecks/hillbillys when I posted this comment. I figured you were referring to dehumanizing “rural folk.” I then looked up the story. I see now you were referring to POC being dehumanized. No, the video did not have that effect on me. But I bet it is pretty effective on those predisposed to disparaging POC.
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Oh, I didn't even watch the video. I know the type. It's like videos of people fighting in Walmart on Black Friday or inarticulate people being interviewed as witnesses to something. We laugh or scold, but it has nothing to do with wishing they'd do better.
I suppose things like the recent college admissions scandal or the Texas cheerleading mom who had her daughter's rival for squad captain murdered (iirc) are examples that target people in privileged socio-economic classes, but it's most damaging to marginalized communities like rednecks, poc, etc, and they're most often the people depicted in such videos.
Yes, but it's rarely shared neutrally. The context in which it's presented and framed matters.
The thread about Grayson Allen made me think back to Bobby Hurley's younger days at Duke. The coaches created a compilation of his facial expressions and body language to show him. It was a really valuable lesson for him about how those can damage his ability to lead, and it represented a turning point in his maturity. Imagine a UNC fan creating a similar compilation of Grayson, though. They wouldn't be doing that as a teaching tool, to say the least.
If the clip from the OP (which I still haven't watched and don't intend to) was used by a sociologist to dissect how incidents like this escalate, that would be a lot different from posting it on youtube and analyzing it like a a spoof of a sporting event.
The reason people pull off stunts like this, because they know nowadays nobody steps in. Look how many cowards, YES, I call them cowards, stand around and watch a grown *** man punch women. Want to know how this could have been thwarted? Easy, every guy within earshot should have stepped to this clown and stopped it. Today’s man wants to watch, or catch the video. It’s sad.
Today’s man has be wary of ridiculous legal action as a result of doing the right thing too, Show. We live in a litigious society driven by money. That said, why didn’t someone step in and at least make that coward think about it? I don’t know if I’d take on that big fella by myself but if I had one other grown man to back me up, I’d consider a calming “whoa whoa” and arm grab.
After a few beers I’d probably walk up and try and bait a swing just so I could enter the match guilt free.
If I were in that situation I would just make sure I didn’t swing first, but try to make sure I swing last.
Size wouldn’t equate if done properly, about 9 guys shoulda been on him, quick. And none of them would be in trouble for that. I know y’all don’t get it, but I’m old school, I’d have tried to send his teeth over to Epcot.
Even if you don’t want to fight the man for hitting the women, to actually just stand there and watch him do that??
If he wants to swing on me, he’s welcome to try but I’m not gonna watch women get swung on and just stand there. And I don’t claim to be Mike Tyson, so if it really came down to it, he can meet my glock 19.
That video is about the worse that humanity has to offer. The males AND females.
If he wants to swing on me, he’s welcome to try but I’m not gonna watch women get swung on and just stand there. And I don’t claim to be Mike Tyson, so if it really came down to it, he can meet my glock 19.
That video is about the worse that humanity has to offer. The males AND females.
The irony of show's claim about what 9 guys could have done is that it's often the abundance of people available that paralyzes everyone. If there was only one witness to the whole thing, they might have intervened for recognizing it was only going to be done by them. 9 guys and they all stand around waiting on the other 8 guys. So I don't think it's a matter of courage. The same single observer "courageous" enough to intervene is the same person who hesitates when there's a crowd.
I've worked my whole adult life in public ed. From what I've seen, teachers are pretty impervious when it comes to bystander syndrome. It's second nature. It still doesn't make them any more courageous than the next person. Just more likely to act in that moment.
The problem with using physical force to address physical force is that it too often becomes the only tool in someone's tool box. What do you do when faced with someone bigger and stronger and you have no other skills? It results in "might makes right" and that's often what's at play in a situation where a man abuses a woman, too. Think about how many little kids might witness something like that and learn that being stronger is what justifies using that strength to control someone else.
I've worked my whole adult life in public ed. From what I've seen, teachers are pretty impervious when it comes to bystander syndrome. It's second nature. It still doesn't make them any more courageous than the next person. Just more likely to act in that moment.
The problem with using physical force to address physical force is that it too often becomes the only tool in someone's tool box. What do you do when faced with someone bigger and stronger and you have no other skills? It results in "might makes right" and that's often what's at play in a situation where a man abuses a woman, too. Think about how many little kids might witness something like that and learn that being stronger is what justifies using that strength to control someone else.
That’s funny, what you say about teachers. I’m exactly like that... something goes on, I’m in. Random kids at the movie theatre throwing candy? Oh no no no. Man chokes in a restaurant? I’m there. Car crash? I’m the first one dragging people out. Someone falls down? I’m picking them up. Always been that way. Never thought to connect it to chosen profession.
I think you can put military members (ex and current) and law enforcement (first responders in general) in the category with teachers.
How do you explain the phenomenon that one undersized person will step up to confront a much more intimidating person, but that that same person plus a bunch of other dudes won't when they're all there? If it's truly about courage, how is it that technically better odds with numbers reduces courage?
It's more complicated than you seem willing to consider.
I don't know if it's a natural trait common to people who go into teaching or if it's something learned as a result of the nature of the profession, but I've seen it often enough and I've been the one often enough to think there's something to it. I don't consider myself any more heroic or courageous or special than the next person; I just recognize a need and am well practiced at being the person in a crowd who steps up in those situations.
There's a reason teachers are among the first groups of people dictators kill or attack as "loser teachers trying to sell you socialism from birth."
Definitely! And there are plenty of instances where those professions are in a class of their own without teachers, or where teachers are uniquely praiseworthy, but yes, they all share this particular tendency.
Some people just has what it takes to step up, step in and say “ No more” and some ( a lot) people do not. I’m not the judge on the internet to say who does and does have “it” I can tell you who around me in my life who does and does not have it and it can vary from case to case depending on the situation. Ultimately I know myself and what I would or would not do.
I’m no hero or bragger, truthfully I’m absolutely better than nobody.
I’m no hero or bragger, truthfully I’m absolutely better than nobody.
In many cases, having what it takes is a matter of preparation such as training, experience, etc. I think that's far more often the case than just "having what it takes," and we start getting into some pretty harsh judgment calls with barely any information at all if we don't recognize that.
I haven't seen the video and really don't care to but I like the direction this thread has taken. Teachers, 1st responders and our troops are under paid and under appreciated. One of my wishes is that someday all of these people are well compensated and more appreciated for their service to their fellow man. OFC