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thabigbluenation said:
no one is giving a **** about what she said, it is the double standard at ESPN that is being discussed.
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A lot of people in this thread think differently. The White House thinks differently.

ESPN didn't suspend Schilling after one tweet though. He repeatedly posted his conservative views (some of which I agreed with) before they let him go. He obviously became a distraction. I don't follow Hill on Twitter, so maybe she tweets about this stuff a lot, but this is the first time she's gotten a lot of attention that I'm aware of. If she keeps doing this stuff, and they won't let it go, then it's a double standard.
 
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dvillecatfan said:
dont care about Hill or schilling tweeting...she shouldn't be fired nor should he have been fired. as to what i think about Schilling being fired, i believe he crossed a line multiple times that he was told not to cross. my feeling is Schilling offended many, while Hill singled out the President. Is ESPN brass allowing this due to their own political leanings? sure...doesn't faze me at all....haven't watched anything besides a ballgame for quite some time(did watch SC6 tonight due to uproar). Now, back to my post you quoted. why no response to that? instead, you pivoted.
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What lines did he cross? You don't think this lady offended many too?
I agree, she shouldn't be fired, neither should Schilling, but I don't think politics has anything to do with the double standard.

I wasn't pivoting, I just think it's absurd to compare the tea party who held legal, peaceful ralleyes to what antifa and colllege students are doing now.
Since being born in the US is one of the stipulations to being President, then that's probably something that could be cleared up rather easily, a simple birth certificate, yet it wasn't.
Fox leans right, there is no doubt, but the media now is 90% negative news coverage of Trump. Fox is 50/50, and I'd bet it was never 90/10 when Obama was President.
 
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JBHolmesfan said:
A lot of people in this thread think differently. The White House thinks differently.

ESPN didn't suspend Schilling after one tweet though. He repeatedly posted his conservative views (some of which I agreed with) before they let him go. He obviously became a distraction. I don't follow Hill on Twitter, so maybe she tweets about this stuff a lot, but this is the first time she's gotten a lot of attention that I'm aware of. If she keeps doing this stuff, and they won't let it go, then it's a double standard.
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She's been suspended before


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/31219-fool-me-onceespn-suspends-jemele-hill
 
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Jamaal Hill (Black) - offends millions of model Americans by making ludicrous remarks & keeps her job.
Doug Adler & Curt Schilling(White) - make misconstrued statements that offend a few alt - left fanatics & get fired immediately.

Nothing wrong here.
 
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Schwagg said:
Jamaal Hill (Black) - offends millions of model Americans by making ludicrous remarks & keeps her job.
Doug Adler & Curt Schilling(White) - make misconstrued statements that offend a few alt - left fanatics & get fired immediately.

Nothing wrong here.
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Their boss is clearly a Democrat.

What can you do to make a difference? Send an angry email? Post on a UK sports forum? The world isn't fair, it should be, but it's not. If people could get ahold of their outrage for a few minutes, and realize the world will keep turning whether ESPN leans to one side or the other.

Is it fair? No. That's the world we live in though. It's also not that big of a deal.

I'm more outraged that they allow her on TV to talk about sports which she clearly knows very little about.
 
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TheySoSensitive said:
Their boss is clearly a Democrat.

What can you do to make a difference? Send an angry email? Post on a UK sports forum? The world isn't fair, it should be, but it's not. If people could get ahold of their outrage for a few minutes, and realize the world will keep turning whether ESPN leans to one side or the other.

Is it fair? No. That's the world we live in though. It's also not that big of a deal.

I'm more outraged that they allow her on TV to talk about sports which she clearly knows very little about.
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The real way to make change is what's being done already, whether politically motivated or not, and that is to not tune in to their shows.
 
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JBHolmesfan said:
The real way to make change is what's being done already, whether politically motivated or not, and that is to not tune in to their shows.
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Yeah, which I do not because of politics but because the product is ******.

...and if the folks running ESPN can't see that they're losing viewers like crazy because of their insistence to venture way too much into pop culture and politics, then jokes on them.

If they keep it going at this rate they'll be out of business soon. The last thing I want to see on sportscenter is Caitlin Jenner getting some ******** award or some blowhard talking politics. ESPN has gone 'LA' on us, thinking they're thoughts and opinions are entirely too important to keep quiet.
 
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JBHolmesfan said:
Ok, I did not know that. Thanks for providing a link giving me new info!
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No prob.

I just want to make sure all facts are out.

Personally I don't care if any of the various names mentioned throughout this post keep their job/are fired, whatever. I just like consistency (which is why I hate the NCAA)

But it's blatantly obvious ESPN isn't consistent.
 
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dvillecatfan said:
Obama had the following to deal with:
publicly undermined...Tea Party movement and rallies
slandered by media...Fox News
entertainment industry...Trump, Nugent, Baio, Schilling, Dash, and country music stars...dont forget 2012 tweet from our President calling Obama a racist. oh, and the birther movement.
we made it thru that, i think we will be ok with the next 3 1/2 years...hopefully.
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dvillecatfan said:
dont care about Hill or schilling tweeting...she shouldn't be fired nor should he have been fired. as to what i think about Schilling being fired, i believe he crossed a line multiple times that he was told not to cross. my feeling is Schilling offended many, while Hill singled out the President. Is ESPN brass allowing this due to their own political leanings? sure...doesn't faze me at all....haven't watched anything besides a ballgame for quite some time(did watch SC6 tonight due to uproar). Now, back to my post you quoted. why no response to that? instead, you pivoted.
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It is not like that. Had someone did that to Obama on ESPN, they would have been fired. That is the point many are making. They are no longer the sports venue they used to be. They have become way too political.
 
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TheySoSensitive said:
Their boss is clearly a Democrat.

What can you do to make a difference? Send an angry email? Post on a UK sports forum? The world isn't fair, it should be, but it's not. If people could get ahold of their outrage for a few minutes, and realize the world will keep turning whether ESPN leans to one side or the other.

Is it fair? No. That's the world we live in though. It's also not that big of a deal.

I'm more outraged that they allow her on TV to talk about sports which she clearly knows very little about.
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What do you think many are doing here? If it does not matter to you, what are you doing here?
 
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ESPN always gave Baraka Obama free access to their audience and he was always promoted as a hip sports fan. They never raised an eyebrow when Obama, " a long time White Sox fan", called Comiskey Park, Kaminsky Field.
 
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Freedom of speech is one thing, broadcasting seditious views is another. The problem is, it's only OK if you're a flaming lib where the media not only give you a pass -but a platform.

I forgot, what are the NFL morons kneeling for? Climate change? DACA? BLM? Russiagate? All of it?
 
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dvillecatfan said:
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/04/a-12-year-history-of-curt-schillings-outspoken-political-stances

do not care what he says or does....just putting it out here for you
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So supporting Bush after winning the world series is controversial? He wasn't employed by ESPN then.

Arguing about evolution or that his political leaning keeping him out of the hall of fame isn't controversial.

Comparing muslims to nazis would be the only one even in the ballpark of stating the President is a white supremacist, as well as his entire staff.


I think the double standard is an issue, and if this were the only case it would be nonissue. However, it's not the only case,certain people are no longer held accountable for acting ignorant.
 
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dvillecatfan said:
Obama had the following to deal with:
publicly undermined...Tea Party movement and rallies
slandered by media...Fox News
entertainment industry...Trump, Nugent, Baio, Schilling, Dash, and country music stars...dont forget 2012 tweet from our President calling Obama a racist. oh, and the birther movement.
we made it thru that, i think we will be ok with the next 3 1/2 years...hopefully.
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[laughing]

Yup, poor poor Obama had to deal with Fox news, while nearly every single paper and news outlet licked his *** and gave him passes for everything. Not to mention he had 99% of hollywood and academia on his side.

There were people who lost jobs just for criticizing him. Obama had it easier than any President in US history probably.
 
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Yup, poor poor Obama had to deal with Fox news, while nearly every single paper and news outlet licked his *** and gave him passes for everything. Not to mention he had 99% of hollywood and academia on his side.

There were people who lost jobs just for criticizing him. Obama had it easier than any President in US history probably.
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was in reference to another post. i'm here for the fun of it. just pointing out the stupidity of both sides of the political spectrum.
 
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Sports Illustrated with two pieces today which fundamentally mischaracterize what's happened. I won't say "lie", but that's basically it. Both pieces say the White House called for Hill to be fired. Didn't happen. Saying something is a "fire-able offense" is an observation. Nothing more. Had the spokesman said "We call upon ESPN to fire Hill" or "The White House demands Hill be terminated", then the point would be valid. It's not. This is not semantics, it's not tomato/tomato.

Worse, the piece by Charles Pierce goes completely off the deep end:

“I was going to give this a pass. Truly, I was. Jemele Hill, the gifted young woman who co-hosts ESPN’s The Six every night with my old Morrissey Boulevard running buddy Michael Smith, got on her electric Twitter machine and tweeted out her unremarkable—and damned near irrefutable—opinion that the current president of the United States is a racist and a white supremacist.

This drew the usual screams from the political flying monkeys of the American Right. ESPN responded with a craven corporate response that I’ll get to in a minute, but let me just say right now that you will not believe that the response was written by anyone who ever came within a light-year of any newsgathering operation. OK, so I thought that was pretty much it. I agreed with everything Hill tweeted. I thought what she said should be obvious to everyone in America at this point. She delivered her opinion. There was the customary cyber-bullying pushback, and we all move on.

That, of course, was until the whole business hit the podium of the White House press room. On Wednesday afternoon, administration spokesperson Sarah Huckabee Sanders was asked about the controversy and this is what she said.

“That is one of the more outrageous comments that anyone could make and certainly something that is a fireable offense by ESPN.”

Let us pause for a moment and consider how far we’ve drifted into the outer suburbs of Crazytown here. This is the official spokesperson of the President of the United States calling upon a television network to fire one of its highest profile employees because she was mean to the president online….”

Amazingly, he gets the actual quote right, and then butchers the analysis. I know the left is in perpetual meltdown mode right now. But good grief, how can you publish something like that and not be embarrassed?
 
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Mojocat said:
But good grief, how can you publish something like that and not be embarrassed?
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When you are the lead political blogger for Esquire and contribute to Slate and Media Matters.

And nothing proves the collusion and bubble mentality of modern media than when of their own is under attack. Give it a week and there will be calls for Jemele to be on the $20 bill.
 
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Bill Derington said:
Why do you think there is a double standard between her and Curt Schilling?
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Good question? Race, background, the MSM and what the comment was about perhaps? Apparently it's PC to call Trump a racist. Especially since the "good people on both sides" comment. Another dumb moment obviously.
 
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To be clear: I don't know much or care much about Hill. Never watched a minute of the show she's on. But I find it hilarious how she's been living in your heads rent free since SC6 started. And I think it's funny how delicate and fragile you all are, and how being called a racist is seen as the worst of all slurs and you have to jump to attack the person who dared accuse someone of such a thing! What does Calipari say about the dog that barks when you throw a rock at the pack?
 
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To be clear: I don't know much or care much about Hill. Never watched a minute of the show she's on. But I find it hilarious how she's been living in your heads rent free since SC6 started. And I think it's funny how delicate and fragile you all are, and how being called a racist is seen as the worst of all slurs and you have to jump to attack the person who dared accuse someone of such a thing! What does Calipari say about the dog that barks when you throw a rock at the pack?
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People don't give a rip about Hill, I have never seen SC6. It's the constant hypocrisy and double standard from the left, this is only the latest example.
 
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So where's the double standard? Curt got warned, Jamele got warned. If she repeatedly puts her employer in the middle of controversies like this, maybe she eventually gets fired.
 
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ganner918 said:
So where's the double standard? Curt got warned, Jamele got warned. If she repeatedly puts her employer in the middle of controversies like this, maybe she eventually gets fired.
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Did you just pull out of thin air that Curt Schilling was warned then? Or that Hill has been warned?

What is so bad about Schillings statement? Do you not agree that muslim extremists that are actively targeting innocent people are just as bad, if not worse than Nazis?
Schilling clearly points out that 5-10% of muslims have been labled extremist, while 7% of germans were nazis. His point is that the extremist minority can take control if the majority stands by and lets them.
 
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dvillecatfan said:
was in reference to another post. i'm here for the fun of it. just pointing out the stupidity of both sides of the political spectrum.
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Does not matter, the points made were just funny. Yes you did point out the particular case but, that was the point. Obama dealt with only a few situations but Trump on the other hand is getting it from every where. When are some of you going to wake up and see that Trump is neither Democrat or Republican in reality. Obama was basically babied through his presidency by most of the media and entertainment industries and still come out sucking at his job.
 
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