And all that says is myocarditis is a bigger side effect of getting Covid than of the vaccine itself. Still a side effect of the vaccine so thanks for proving me right.
OT: Gonzaga suspended Stockton’s tickets
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And all that says is myocarditis is a bigger side effect of getting Covid than of the vaccine itself. Still a side effect of the vaccine so thanks for proving me right.
Would love to hear about 2 or 3 of these conspiracy theories that Fox is always pushing.
Couple things:
Gonzaga can do what they want to in regards to Stockton not following their rules.
Doesn’t mean Stockton is wrong. He’s not. Good for him for being principled. Masks are useless and you’re a damn fool to think otherwise. We know. You know. You know that we know that you know.
Amazing how many people trust the Trump juice given the fact it has done next to nothing to slow the spread and you now have to line up for an indefinite amount of ‘boosters’. Whatever. Keep getting that Trump juice.
Myocarditis is a very real side effect of both the virus and the shot.
CNN -vs- Fox. LMAO.
CNN ran with (and is STILL running with) the Russian collusion hoax. Buried hunters laptop. Publicly Convicted an innocent 17 year old defending himself against felons. Publicly convicted another innocent 16 year old for smirking in the face of an agitator. Fell for the hands up, don’t shoot crap. Claimed the riots during a pandemic were actually safe and peaceful. Claimed any reference to a lab leak as a conspiracy. Claims CRT is a figment of our imagination in one breath, yet also claim it should be taught in our schools in the next breath. Have now had several top-tier employees fired/arrested for pedophilia related crimes. Had to fire their top man for helping his brother cover up crimes/go after his victims. And claims anyone opposed to their precious dem leaders/policies are racist, nazi bigots.
I get it. Fox can be scary because it’s not what you hear from the other 98% of media. But at least it’s not ^^^^THAT^^^^ f’n scary.
Gonzaga can do what they want to in regards to Stockton not following their rules.
Doesn’t mean Stockton is wrong. He’s not. Good for him for being principled. Masks are useless and you’re a damn fool to think otherwise. We know. You know. You know that we know that you know.
Amazing how many people trust the Trump juice given the fact it has done next to nothing to slow the spread and you now have to line up for an indefinite amount of ‘boosters’. Whatever. Keep getting that Trump juice.
Myocarditis is a very real side effect of both the virus and the shot.
CNN -vs- Fox. LMAO.
CNN ran with (and is STILL running with) the Russian collusion hoax. Buried hunters laptop. Publicly Convicted an innocent 17 year old defending himself against felons. Publicly convicted another innocent 16 year old for smirking in the face of an agitator. Fell for the hands up, don’t shoot crap. Claimed the riots during a pandemic were actually safe and peaceful. Claimed any reference to a lab leak as a conspiracy. Claims CRT is a figment of our imagination in one breath, yet also claim it should be taught in our schools in the next breath. Have now had several top-tier employees fired/arrested for pedophilia related crimes. Had to fire their top man for helping his brother cover up crimes/go after his victims. And claims anyone opposed to their precious dem leaders/policies are racist, nazi bigots.
I get it. Fox can be scary because it’s not what you hear from the other 98% of media. But at least it’s not ^^^^THAT^^^^ f’n scary.
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Glad to hear everyone is doing better. My wife had Covid. Amounted to sniffles for 3/4 days. I still never caught it and one kid did and the other didn’t (as far as we know). Both were asymptomatic. None of us have taken a single shot.
However our situation, just like yours is completely anecdotal and determined by many individual variables.
I’ve seen everything from vaxxed unvaxxed and boosted, triple mask don’t leave the home to zero mask ever all catch it with a variety of symptoms from nothing to moderately severe. Majority of cases though, it’s like you said. Pretty much a cold.
The Omicron variant while more contagious also seems to be less severe thankfully.
Omicron is frustrating, but if this virus started with Omicron, we would not be wearing masks and would simply be telling people that it is likely to be like a cold, maybe a bad cold, but if you are experiencing worse symptoms, seek medical attention. Kind of like we have for years before. There would be no masks, because we wore no masks for the flu and Omicron is no more dangerous than the flu. Many of my vaxxed and unvaxxed friends have gotten Omicron. Anecdotally, the experiences of those with the vaccine have not been better than those who refused the vaccine. Because it’s airborne spread, your cloth masks are a waste of time.
Four pages to this thread in a short period of time. Congrats! LOL
Four pages to this thread in a short period of time. Congrats! LOL
Literally everyone I know personally and professionally is catching it right now. The hospitals I rotate all have full ERs with covid +. However vast majority just need to stay home, try to isolate, rest, let it run its course. But I’m in CA, and people are deathly afraid of the C word out here and are bombarding ERs, many just attempting to get tested.
Yeah to me this should just be common sense.
If you are feeling like you have a cold, stay at home, drink lots of fluids, get a ton of rest. Treat it like a cold.
If you are having issues breathing, you might want to go to the ER.
Alright, so this kills me and it's the latest goalpost for the vaxxed still getting COVID. The new talking point is "It's just not as bad if you're jabbed." First off, in order to prove such a thing, you would have to get the virus while not having the jab and then get the same virus with the jab to compare. Second, before there was even a vaccine in play. COVID was nothing for some and sucked for others.
The vaccine and a mask for a false safety blanket and a religion at this point. I'm in an office right now where everyone is triple jabbed and sick. I do not have it as I had COVID back in the fall. But the lack of logic in what these people are saying to each other is just crazy to me.
Exactly. Common sense doesn’t reside in CA.
. Can’t wait to get out of this hell hole.There’s no way to compare any of it. This is why a one size fits all approach was never the answer and obviously originated with mainly monetary and political motivations.
I'm sorry this just isn't true at all.
It's common knowledge that the vaxcine helps prevent COVID, puts less people in hospital and less people die.
It's also common knowledge at this point that the booster helps even more than the people who only got the vaccine without the booster.
For example in Switzerland as of Jan 1st 2022.
Deaths per 100,000 people
Unvaccinated: 13.06
Fully Vaccinated, no booster: 1.44
Fully Vaccinated + Booster: 0.27
I mean it doesn't get any clearer than that.
Fauci has been wrong and a liar for 40 years. Big Pharma is making record profits. Politicians are unmasked, not social distancing, and partying, traveling to Florida when they think a camera is not around. That should raise a red flag to the average person that they have been played (if the BLM riots didn't already tip you off in 2020).
The government has never given a single **** about anyone's safety. They care about money and power.
Dude, you're so full of ****. You've been gaslighted.
"Common knowledge the vaccine prevents COVID." HAHAHA. Israel would love to chat with you right now. Maybe another 15 shots will do the trick. Oh, found another variant so better get a new vaccine. Oh, doesn't work. Better get that booster. OH, ANOTHER VARIANT. One more new shot. That will do it.
It does not prevent transmission. The data cited by you is absolute BS. But by all means, keep believing big government and Big Pharma really care about you and this is all about a virus. This has become a religion for you all.
You nor the manufacturer (at least they claim- although they have fought like hell to not release data) didn't know your shots would be ineffective in a handful of months yet you act like you can predict the long-term effects and properly analyze that it "helps" at this point? Nonsense. But Big Pharma has sure spent trillions of dollars in pushing their message out to convince you that it does.
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I would actually just like to hear ONE. I will wait patiently.
It’s a gravy train for sure and they’re going to milk it for all it’s worth. I’ve been advocate of going back to normal about 3 weeks into this whole thing because I knew this is where it would lead. Now, it’s hard to see it ever going back.
Hell, Newsom said 3 weeks into this thing we were never going back to normal and would be an opportunity for us to use it to create a more progressive society. This was before supposedly anyone even knew what we were even dealing with. That raised huge red flags for me and everything the politicians have done since that point have made those words very true.
This is why I agree with Stockton and anyone else that pushes back. We are allowing our country, way of life, and future generations to be damaged in a way I feel will be irreversible.
You already said you and your whole family had Covid and were vaxed yet it’s common knowledge it helps prevent Covid,
. Your right it doesn’t get any more clearer than that. That’s 100% infection rate after the jab!!!!
Jews were the original lizard people huh?
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Actually the only group or party sanctioning "book burning" is the woke dem party. We can look at a very long list of art works, from 100 yo statues to Huck Finn. Ask Jerry Seinfeld and other comedians what they think about leftist wokeism that has made a standup routine on campus impossible. Try being a conservative speaker or political figure speaking there. Woke females and their Beta male "sisters" have done more harm with their leftist fascism, AntiFA (where FA is the first amendment) than any GOP society.
maybe he’s thinking of the soccer players that have been dropping dead ?
tennis matches too maybe ?
The suggestion that anyone that disagrees is put into a camp bothers some of us.
That is more than likely what he has been seeing. Every time one of those drops it gets headlines and of course..."was he vaxed" followed by "of course he was vaxed." Never any proof but you know that is what is going through the mind of all these pro athletes who are really in no danger due to covid but are being "forced" by their governments to get vaxed....with something that does have the potential for some heart issues as a side effect. Whether Stockton or Rogers or that tennis player guy who got kicked out of Australia....you know its on their minds. I cannot blame them.
You already said you and your whole family had Covid and were vaxed yet it’s common knowledge it helps prevent Covid,
No one said the vaccine had an effective rate of 100%.
It helps PREVENT it. It doesn't completely mean you can't get it obviously.
The whole point of the shots is to decrease your odds of getting it, to decrease your odds of ending up in the hospital and to decrease the odds of dying.
Yes I think that is how it would work, I mean every death among the unvaccinated is attributed to the virus so.....
Illegal entry into the country should be stopped.
Just a small sample that took me about 5 minutes to find.
You can use the tried and true method of just putting headphones in without looking like a weirdo…
It’s amazing that after two years of this people still don’t understand the difference between an immunization and a vaccine. It’s a sign that a person is willfully ignorant and they live in echo chambers sponsored by Fox News and Tucker Carlson. I mean it literally takes about 30 seconds to google the difference between immunization and vaccine.
If anyone on this board can prove that they protested vaccines for measles/mumps or any of the other dozen we got as children or had our children receive, I can at least buy into the theory that you’ve been anti vaccine your whole life and your opinion on the Covid Vaccine isn’t politically motivated. But a lot of these clowns have received plenty of vaccines in their life yet have been brainwashed into thinking THIS vaccine is the sign of the devil. If this belief wasn’t so common it’d be hilarious to observe these nut jobs, but unfortunately a large amount of people buy into the nonsense.
LOL. So anything you personally disagree with is a conspiracy theory. We can certainly do the same thing for CNN or MSNBC. Like starting with Russia Russia Russia. And just this past week, F Joe Biden said that there will be a unfair tampered with election in 2022 if he doesnt get his way. And lets not forget Hillary accused 2016 of being "tampered with" by Russia Russia Russia....over some Facebook ads. The "Steel Dosier" lapped up by your side is now totally discredited. Shall I continue.
Two doses of an MMR vaccine is damn near 100 percent effective. What’s the cv one down to? Zero (according Pfizer ceo) for two shots towards Omi variant.
You’re right, most people aren’t “anti vax.” They are anti vax shots that don’t seem to work and can cause heart issues. They are antivax things that are rushed and have no long term safety evidence. They are antivax things that arent really necessary (99 percent survival/80 percent asymptomatic was early numbers) They are anti vax mandates and passports - All Americans should be.
This was never political for most people that didn’t take it.
Simple risk vs reward analysis.
And if it was ever political, who made it political? Want to see the Kamala clip? I can link it. The Biden one? I can also link the FDA warning labels of vax association with myo and pericarditis.
You could also take a look around VAERS. 22k deaths, 1 mil adverse events atm. And before someone tries to discredit that, VAERS was relied on since its inception until NOW. Wonder why?
All reported by liberal left leaning websites. Forgive me if I don’t buy your “you like your news unbiased” mantra.
Accuses others of an echo chamber, literally repeats the ******** repeated and coordinated by DNC media, tech, Hollywood, and academia.
It's pretty simple, really in regard to your political shot (which is hilarious considering how many of you were anti-vax but changed once the president changed). It's simple risk analysis. Am I at risk of a virus where natural immunity is stronger than your endless jabs and I have a 99% chance of survival? Why should I take a chance on this incredibly political BS (yes, obviously political like everything is with the left) effing me up with no long term studies? 99% chance of surviving the virus and 100% chance of no side effects by not taking the jab--pretty good odds.
Speaking of conspiracies, big tech censored called the Wuhan lab leak a "conspiracy" only to then pivot like they have done on all of this. Should we talk about the pivot on now wanting to decipher between "from covid" and "with covid?" That's rich.
Big Pharma pouring in record profits, Dem politicians routinely exposed as frauds by doing mask theater, not social distancing, out partying, no masks/distancing for Pelosi fundraisers or Newsome fancy dinners, and all of the Dems from CA, NY, MI coming down to Florida where they called DeSantis a "murderer." It's hilarious.
DNC media is the biggest offender in spreading absolute ********. You never even read the DNC leaks yet have the balls to trash someone else?
Just keep getting those boosters and vaccines. Keep being a lab rat. Mask up for eternity and then act smug as if you're a genius when in reality, you're just a sheep who outsources critical thinking to the worst and most corrupt human beings on the planet. POLITICIANS AND BIG PHARMA DO NOT GIVE A **** ABOUT YOUR WELL BEING.
If you actually read any of my preceding posts, you would know I lumped CNN and Fox News together. A poster specifically asked about Fox News so I provided examples. Reading is hard, I get it.
Both sides have made it political. Not sure how any of my posts in this thread could indicate otherwise.
Again, I don’t think any people who have vociferously questioned the effectiveness and safety of the Covid vaccine have ever done it with any others they have gotten. There’s likely some, but it’s not many. Imagine if the Covid vaccine left a scar like the smallpox one. And yet people still willingly got in line and took that jab because the internet did not exist so as to convince them not to. I doubt any of you old timers or your grandparents read the studies for the smallpox vaccine, yet most probably took it despite it being objectively a terrible experience.
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