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[ConRay9]

All reported by liberal left leaning websites. Forgive me if I don’t buy your “you like your news unbiased” mantra.

They’re reporting on things that actually happened lol. You can search for the Fox News clips yourself. Whatever the spin each website had on the news clips are irrelevant when I can watch the ACTUAL Fox News clips myself and determine that they were derived from batshit crazy conspiracies. The websites I provided merely provided the actual Fox News clip or occurrence of note. They could have zero words accompanying the clips for all I care.

You missed the point again but that’s alright. I would have bet the house you’d deflect and focus in on those stinkin liberals. You probably have not been able to read between the lines bubs so I’ll spell it out for you: BOTH SIDES SUCK. I AM NOT TRYING TO OWN THE LIBS NOR AM I ADVOCATING FOR THE REPUBLICANS.

Jesus Christ, so many of you harp on the politics of everything while explicitly showing your tribalism. The irony is palpable.

 

[ConRay9]

Accuses others of an echo chamber, literally repeats the ******** repeated and coordinated by DNC media, tech, Hollywood, and academia.

It's pretty simple, really in regard to your political shot (which is hilarious considering how many of you were anti-vax but changed once the president changed). It's simple risk analysis. Am I at risk of a virus where natural immunity is stronger than your endless jabs and I have a 99% chance of survival? Why should I take a chance on this incredibly political BS (yes, obviously political like everything is with the left) effing me up with no long term studies? 99% chance of surviving the virus and 100% chance of no side effects by not taking the jab--pretty good odds.

Speaking of conspiracies, big tech censored called the Wuhan lab leak a "conspiracy" only to then pivot like they have done on all of this. Should we talk about the pivot on now wanting to decipher between "from covid" and "with covid?" That's rich.

Big Pharma pouring in record profits, Dem politicians routinely exposed as frauds by doing mask theater, not social distancing, out partying, no masks/distancing for Pelosi fundraisers or Newsome fancy dinners, and all of the Dems from CA, NY, MI coming down to Florida where they called DeSantis a "murderer." It's hilarious.

DNC media is the biggest offender in spreading absolute ********. You never even read the DNC leaks yet have the balls to trash someone else?

Just keep getting those boosters and vaccines. Keep being a lab rat. Mask up for eternity and then act smug as if you're a genius when in reality, you're just a sheep who outsources critical thinking to the worst and most corrupt human beings on the planet. POLITICIANS AND BIG PHARMA DO NOT GIVE A **** ABOUT YOUR WELL BEING.

It’s funny you went on that entire diatribe and just assumed I was some liberal DNC mouth piece. Both sides suck dude. Eff the DNC and the Republicans. It’s hilarious that because two people simply disagree about something you have to make said disagreement as political as possible while decrying the politics behind everything. Sweet, sweet irony. LOL.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

I’m uncertain why anyone makes this a political stance.

it’s a freaking vaccine. The large majority of Americans been getting vaccines since they were babies.

 

[Cats_2010]

I’m uncertain why anyone makes this a political stance.

it’s a freaking vaccine. The large majority of Americans been getting vaccines since they were babies.

It became political because it was being forced on people or risk losing their jobs. My wife is still in that category and currently has until the end of feb to comply or hit the bread line. I’m her bread line so she will not be complying period. Also no one has ever taken a vaccine at birth that was developed and approved by the FDA within a years time. Most FDA approvals take an average of 12 years. The small pox vaccine was first developed in 1797 and was around 1952 Before it became a mandate. Flu vaccine was around for 15 years or so before it became a mandate in the the healthcare industry. What has taken place with this vaccine and this administration is what has made it political.

 

[BlueRunner11]

Both sides have made it political. Not sure how any of my posts in this thread could indicate otherwise.

Again, I don’t think any people who have vociferously questioned the effectiveness and safety of the Covid vaccine have ever done it with any others they have gotten. There’s likely some, but it’s not many. Imagine if the Covid vaccine left a scar like the smallpox one. And yet people still willingly got in line and took that jab because the internet did not exist so as to convince them not to. I doubt any of you old timers or your grandparents read the studies for the smallpox vaccine, yet most probably took it despite it being objectively a terrible experience.

Voted for Trump twice but nothing he could say or do would entice me or discourage me from making my own decision about the jab. I roll my eyes when I am hear him or Biden pushing it. I’ll never take it unless I feel covid is a serious risk for me and long terms studies have deemed it safe and effective. As of now, neither of those have been established regardless of what the media or some politician says. And 3 shots? We have zero data on what that even does to someone. 4? God knows. Uncharted territory at this point. Older vaccines from most of our childhoods are for the most part, very established at this point.

 

[ConRay9]

Voted for Trump twice but nothing he could say or do would entice me or discourage me from making my own decision about the jab. I roll my eyes when I am hear him or Biden pushing it. I’ll never take it unless I feel covid is a serious risk for me and long terms studies have deemed it safe and effective. As of now, neither of those have been established regardless of what the media or some politician says. And 3 shots? We have zero data on what that even does to someone. 4? God knows. Uncharted territory at this point. Older vaccines from most of our childhoods are for the most part, very established at this point.

At the very least, I can agree with you that we shouldn’t be looking to politicians to help us make personal medical decisions.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

It became political because it was being forced on people or risk losing their jobs. My wife is still in that category and currently has until the end of feb to comply or hit the bread line. I’m her bread line so she will not be complying period. Also no one has ever taken a vaccine at birth that was developed and approved by the FDA within a years time. Most FDA approvals take an average of 12 years. The small pox vaccine was first developed in 1797 and was around 1952 Before it became a mandate. Flu vaccine was around for 15 years or so before it became a mandate in the the healthcare industry. What has taken place with this vaccine and this administration is what has made it political.

I do agree with you about people shouldn't be forced into it. While I do believe more people taking it just benefits everyone, I don't agree with the forcing.

As for it being developed and approved quickly yeah it was definitely quick. But when hundreds of thousands of people are dying I suppose that's what should happen. Both administrations for what it's worth sped that up. I think Trump even called it operation warp speed.

That being said, these vaccines really wasn't just developed when COVID hit. They been working on these vaccines for years prior. They didn't know that COVID would hit or how it would effect things but they been developing vaccines for awhile now to fight this stuff.

I definitely don't agree with forcing people to take it. I do feel tho that based on all of the safety information out there, the vaccine is safe to take.

It's just crazy to me about this being a political stance or political issue. I don't believe that science and the health of the nation should ever mix with politics.

 

[Dr. H Lecter]

Two doses of an MMR vaccine is damn near 100 percent effective. What’s the cv one down to? Zero (according Pfizer ceo) for two shots towards Omi variant.

You’re right, most people aren’t “anti vax.” They are anti vax shots that don’t seem to work and can cause heart issues. They are antivax things that are rushed and have no long term safety evidence. They are antivax things that arent really necessary (99 percent survival/80 percent asymptomatic was early numbers) They are anti vax mandates and passports - All Americans should be.

This was never political for most people that didn’t take it.

Simple risk vs reward analysis.

And if it was ever political, who made it political? Want to see the Kamala clip? I can link it. The Biden one? I can also link the FDA warning labels of vax association with myo and pericarditis.

You could also take a look around VAERS. 22k deaths, 1 mil adverse events atm. And before someone tries to discredit that, VAERS was relied on since its inception until NOW. Wonder why?

Why? Because nothing prior became politicized like it is now. Had the left....Cuomo, Biden Harris and others not politicized the process because Trump was streamlining it then we wouldnt be here. You guys hated Trump so much that the vax credibility was killed before it arrived.

 

[BlueRunner11]

Why? Because nothing prior became politicized like it is now. Had the left....Cuomo, Biden Harris and others not politicized the process because Trump was streamlining it then we wouldnt be here. You guys hated Trump so much that the vax credibility was killed before it arrived.

Who is “you guys?” I voted for him twice. Regardless, I wouldnt trust him with my medical decisions....or Biden, or Fauci, or Calipari, or anyone for that matter. These fools ain’t raising my kids if I’m gone or unable.

 

[Cats_2010]

I do agree with you about people shouldn't be forced into it. While I do believe more people taking it just benefits everyone, I don't agree with the forcing.

As for it being developed and approved quickly yeah it was definitely quick. But when hundreds of thousands of people are dying I suppose that's what should happen. Both administrations for what it's worth sped that up. I think Trump even called it operation warp speed.

That being said, these vaccines really wasn't just developed when COVID hit. They been working on these vaccines for years prior. They didn't know that COVID would hit or how it would effect things but they been developing vaccines for awhile now to fight this stuff.

I definitely don't agree with forcing people to take it. I do feel tho that based on all of the safety information out there, the vaccine is safe to take.

It's just crazy to me about this being a political stance or political issue. I don't believe that science and the health of the nation should ever mix with politics.

Yep, trump was behind operation warp speed, and while a fan of his policies I was not a fan of getting a vaccine as fast as we could just to get a vaccine, relatively speaking I think they are safe for most people but not all. Long term is going to take several years before anyone really knows. I worry for my daughter and if it will effect her reproductively. She’s 29 and my one and only. I also worry about what it will do to others immune systems and make them more vulnerable to other illnesses.

Mrna was used as the basis for the vaccine and one of it’s developers has been widely critical of its use as such indicating it would not be effective and was not what it was developed for. He’s obviously now been labeled a quack!!!

 

[TortElvisII]

It turned me into a Newt.

 

[Gassy_Knowls]

John Stockton needs to wear his little paper mask!

 

[rudd1]

-jeff hornacek thinks this is ********.

 

[Dr. H Lecter]

Yep, trump was behind operation warp speed, and while a fan of his policies I was not a fan of getting a vaccine as fast as we could just to get a vaccine, relatively speaking I think they are safe for most people but not all. Long term is going to take several years before anyone really knows. I worry for my daughter and if it will effect her reproductively. She’s 29 and my one and only. I also worry about what it will do to others immune systems and make them more vulnerable to other illnesses.

Mrna was used as the basis for the vaccine and one of it’s developers has been widely critical of its use as such indicating it would not be effective and was not what it was developed for. He’s obviously now been labeled a quack!!!

The reason it was fast because for one, no drug company has ever had a govt. guarantee them billions of dollars to produce a vax that might just get flushed down the drain. Same for purchasing billions of viles and hypo needles and storage containers and all the other logistics that no company has resources to fund out of pocket. Plus the DMV speed govt foot dragging bureaucracy was pushed to get things done. A great POTUS with an actually business background proved it can be done. The happless Biden is the other side of the coin. If he were POTUS then, we still would not have a vax. I cannot imagine the body count if them dems were in charge.

 

[KingOfBBN]

I’m uncertain why anyone makes this a political stance.

it’s a freaking vaccine. The large majority of Americans been getting vaccines since they were babies.

You think someone else is making it political and your party is trying to punish and force an experimental jab on the public and ostracize those who don’t adhere to it (all while holding the door open at the southern border for votes).

It was obviously political when they told everyone to stay inside but made an exception for “racial justice” as BLM and Antifa burned down America.

How many videos have you seen of Dem politicians where they’re maskless but then put the mask on for the camera? Where they say one thing in public and then do another in private ( Pelosi hair appointment, fundraiser), Newsome’s private dinner party, etc.

I must have missed where you freaked the eff out and shut down the world and wanted people to show their papers for a jab in order to eat at a restaurant prior to this.

It’s such disingenuous BS and has been exposed as a never-ending cycle of government control and wealth transfer.

 

[Beatle Bum]

So you will stop at immigrants huh? Nice to hear.

So you want no sovereign border or control over immigration? I am sure that wouldn’t be a problem.

 

[Beatle Bum]

It’s amazing that after two years of this people still don’t understand the difference between an immunization and a vaccine. It’s a sign that a person is willfully ignorant and they live in echo chambers sponsored by Fox News and Tucker Carlson. I mean it literally takes about 30 seconds to google the difference between immunization and vaccine.

If anyone on this board can prove that they protested vaccines for measles/mumps or any of the other dozen we got as children or had our children receive, I can at least buy into the theory that you’ve been anti vaccine your whole life and your opinion on the Covid Vaccine isn’t politically motivated. But a lot of these clowns have received plenty of vaccines in their life yet have been brainwashed into thinking THIS vaccine is the sign of the devil. If this belief wasn’t so common it’d be hilarious to observe these nut jobs, but unfortunately a large amount of people buy into the nonsense.

We are immunized by surviving a contagion or a vaccine. I am really not sure what you are suggesting by emphasizing the distinction. Early on, the emphasis of the vaccine was the eradication of the virus. We heard repeatedly snarky comments about polio vaccines, as if there was a relationship. Now, we hear that these vaccines were not intended to immunize. Gotcha.

 

[ConRay9]

We are immunized by surviving a contagion or a vaccine. I am really not sure what you are suggesting by emphasizing the distinction. Early on, the emphasis of the vaccine was the eradication of the virus. We heard repeatedly snarky comments about polio vaccines, as if there was a relationship. Now, we hear that these vaccines were not intended to immunize. Gotcha.

An immunization is 100% protection from a given disease. The Covid Vaccine does not provide for 100% protection against all variants, especially so against the Omicron variant it seems. It still likely prevents disease against multiple variants that we know of and maybe ones we don’t understand yet fully. This vaccination was never intended to work to the degree of smallpox or polio. The Coronavirus is ENDEMIC.

I make the distinction because simply calling the vaccine an immunization is disingenuous. It suggests that the Covid vaccine is ineffective because it does not provide 100% immunity, when it was never intended to do so. It’s effective, just not for every variant.

Notice the similarities here between the flu vaccine and Covid vaccine. This shouldn’t be that difficult for the 99% of people living in the developed world that understand how the flu vaccine works.

The coronavirus is here to stay — here’s what that means

A Nature survey shows many scientists expect the virus that causes COVID-19 to become endemic, but it could pose less danger over time.

www.nature.com

 

[IdaCat]

Let's force everybody to wear little face coverings that science proves don't work (including small children) and make them inject endless rounds of untested substances regardless of health condition or personal choice and threaten loss of livelihood if they don't.

Let's say it's both sides making it political even though one side is pushing all the mandates.

Then let's come up with dumbass reasons why we personally like living under these conditions because it suits our warped personal social behavior while pretending that we are the center of the universe and nobody else like said children are negatively affected.

 

[Beatle Bum]

An immunization is 100% protection from a given disease. The Covid Vaccine does not provide for 100% protection against all variants, especially so against the Omicron variant it seems. It still likely prevents disease against multiple variants that we know of and maybe ones we don’t understand yet fully. This vaccination was never intended to work to the degree of smallpox or polio. The Coronavirus is ENDEMIC.

I make the distinction because simply calling the vaccine an immunization is disingenuous. It suggests that the Covid vaccine is ineffective because it does not provide 100% immunity, when it was never intended to do so. It’s effective, just not for every variant.

Notice the similarities here between the flu vaccine and Covid vaccine. This shouldn’t be that difficult for the 99% of people living in the developed world that understand how the flu vaccine works.

The coronavirus is here to stay — here’s what that means

A Nature survey shows many scientists expect the virus that causes COVID-19 to become endemic, but it could pose less danger over time.

www.nature.com

We know this now. But, do you recall in the early days of the vaccine when the hyper-vaxxers constantly talked about the polio vaccine when demeaning those who did not want to vax? Polio was never an analogy for COVID, but social media was filled with memes and comments about polio and how polio does not really exist anymore because of vaccines and anti-vaxxers should know better. Now these same people act as if the vaccinated getting the Delta and O variants was part of the understanding from day one. Granted, many epidemiologists and virologists said that an annual flu-like vaccine would probably be likely, but that was not the political push from the hyper-vaxxers nor completely understood in the initial push. And, today, we still don’t know what we don’t know. About COVID and the vax. Omicron just is not the variant to be all excited about vaccines. It is actually the variant that we probably hope gives people natural “immunity.”

 

[Beatle Bum]

Let's force everybody to wear little face coverings that science proves don't work (including small children) and make them inject endless rounds of untested substances regardless of health condition or personal choice and threaten loss of livelihood if they don't.

Let's say it's both sides making it political even though one side is pushing all the mandates.

Then let's come up with dumbass reasons why we personally like living under these conditions because it suits our warped personal social behavior while pretending that we are the center of the universe and nobody else like said children are negatively affected.

Interesting enough, some in Europe are saying the over-vaxxed are actually at more future risk.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

lol see I don't get this.

"living under these conditions"

I'm in Charleston WV. Honestly, these conditions haven't changed at all. I still go out. I still see people. The only thing that has changed now is the ability to work my day job from home, which is a major plus in my book.

Maybe I would feel different if say my work forced me into the vaccine or forced me to get tested or whatever.

But things really haven't changed all that much here. I just hear things like getting back to normal and I'm like what........I've been in normal since day 1 of this thing.

 

[cat_chaser]

“I can’t understand why/how this has become political”

“I also don’t agree with mandates”

Same person

You also have half the population gleefully in a never ending game of government Simon says all the while demonizing the other half who refuse to participate in it. You can guess which side is which.

 

[Ron Mehico]

lol see I don't get this.

"living under these conditions"

I'm in Charleston WV. Honestly, these conditions haven't changed at all. I still go out. I still see people. The only thing that has changed now is the ability to work my day job from home, which is a major plus in my book.

Maybe I would feel different if say my work forced me into the vaccine or forced me to get tested or whatever.

But things really haven't changed all that much here. I just hear things like getting back to normal and I'm like what........I've been in normal since day 1 of this thing.

I grew up in Charleston, WV and went there for the holidays. It was incredible and me and my wife commented to each other that life actually felt normal while I was as there. You have no idea how some cities have been borderline shutdown - especially major cities.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

I grew up in Charleston, WV and went there for the holidays. It was incredible and me and my wife commented to each other that life actually felt normal while I was as there. You have no idea how some cities have been borderline shutdown - especially major cities.

Yeah I got family in New York and it's like a completely different world there.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

“I can’t understand why/how this has become political”

“I also don’t agree with mandates”

Same person

You also have half the population gleefully in a never ending game of government Simon says all the while demonizing the other half who refuse to participate in it. You can guess which side is which.

No you are correct.

I guess it's just based on the fact that I'm not seeing the mandates. I'm not seeing the forcing.

When this all first happened, I think restaurants may have shut down a week or two and that's been about it.

I get that government tries to turn this political. My point is that the general public shouldn't do the same. It's a health issue and at the end of the day I would like to think that the main focus should just be based on keeping everyone safe. There should be no bashing for people that don't want the vaccine. Likewise if someone wants to go out and wear masks 100%, so be it. At the end of the day, it's just sad there's so much misinformation out there that people can't seem to get enough (or the right) information to make an educated decision on what's best for them. The focus is strictly based on sides. There's a stark difference in vaccine rates between Democrats and Republicans. That to me says that largely plays a factor on things and not necessarily what's best for the person. Which is sad IMO.

 

[JDHoss]

At the very least, I can agree with you that we shouldn’t be looking to politicians to help us make personal medical decisions.

Absolutely. I've never consulted or been influenced by anyone other than my doctor on this. Listening to any given politician for advice on this would be like asking a clerk at Publix about a noise my truck is making.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

Exactly.

If I want my taxes done, I see an accountant.
If I'm sick, I see a doctor.

etc etc

 

[JDHoss]

You can use the tried and true method of just putting headphones in without looking like a weirdo…

That's a decent idea, but I'm an ugly sonofabitch anyway, so it doesn't matter. I'd just as soon wear a mask rather than headphones. I have earbuds, but those are barely noticeable and wouldn't deter people from starting conversations. The fact that wearing a mask also pisses some people off is just an added bonus, although I will say that in stores here, most people are masked.

 

[Ron Mehico]

That's a decent idea, but I'm an ugly sonofabitch anyway, so it doesn't matter. I'd just as soon wear a mask rather than headphones. I have earbuds, but those are barely noticeable and wouldn't deter people from starting conversations. The fact that wearing a mask also pisses some people off is just an added bonus, although I will say that in stores here, most people are masked.

That's a decent idea, but I'm an ugly sonofabitch anyway, so it doesn't matter. I'd just as soon wear a mask rather than headphones. I have earbuds, but those are barely noticeable and wouldn't deter people from starting conversations. The fact that wearing a mask also pisses some people off is just an added bonus, although I will say that in stores here, most people are masked.

I find it completely perplexing that people don’t understand why people would be annoyed or angry at still having to wear a mask.

 

[TortElvisII]

Exactly.

If I want my taxes done, I see an accountant.
If I'm sick, I see a doctor.

etc etc

I recommend you come to the paddock for all your problems.

 

[KingOfBBN]

“I can’t understand why/how this has become political”

“I also don’t agree with mandates”

Same person

You also have half the population gleefully in a never ending game of government Simon says all the while demonizing the other half who refuse to participate in it. You can guess which side is which.

No self awareness at all. Same group (who makes everything political no matter the topic or industry) seeks to slander you, destroy you, rule you and ALWAYS cheers for big government but then is so delusional that they will call everyone else "Nazis." Same group.

They are always in lock step with whatever the crafted talking point and narrative is by the most powerful people and industries. For some bizarre reason, they trust this group. Apparently no evil exists any more unless it's "Drumpf" and the invisible white supremacists. Big Pharma never lies or is unethical for greed. That apparently isn't a possibility in their mind despite what history has shown. Governments aren't sinister liars who seek power, control, and money. That apparently stopped and is no longer a possibility. They totally don't have a history of targeting their own citizens with experiments, death, imprisonment,

Corporate media totally isn't used as political propaganda except for that evil "Faux News." Never mind what the DNC leaks and common sense show, ABC, CBS, CNN, NYT, Washington Post, Politico, MSNBC, etc never lie. They always tell the truth. They never omit anything that hurts their narrative and they're totally impartial and not at all used for propaganda and their political ideology and their sponsorship dollars have no effect on what is shown to the public.

You should not think for yourself. Only trust the infallible bureaucrats for every decision and to do your critical thinking for you.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

I recommend you come to the paddock for all your problems.

I'm afraid of what's in there haha.

 

[rudd1]

-the paddock is awesome. You may have to sort through some satire/ridicule...but the truth can always be found here. Amen.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

I find it completely perplexing that people don’t understand why people would be annoyed or angry at still having to wear a mask.

See IDK, just doesn't bother me. Maybe I'm just used to life in NY. I would think come spring (remember, it's all indoors up here at this point with the weather), the mask mandate will be lifted. Is it an inconvenience? yeah, a little bit. I'd rather NOT wear one, that's for sure.

But I also don't really care that much. It's really never bothered me much, in the grand scheme of things.

I'm not liberal, as evidenced by my postings on the political thread.. but I've always thought that at least 99% of "that side" just wanted people to take precautions, and they actually believed masks mattered. And maybe they were wrong in thinking that it mattered. But the way I viewed it, if it made people feel safer, whatever. If me wearing a mask put my community at ease, whatever.. no biggie for me.

I also looked at it as my way of "coming to the table" on a topic that they cared about. It was an easy way for me to concede and compromise. Now will we get that from them? Maybe (probably not lol), but that's kind of how I viewed it.

 

[Ron Mehico]

See IDK, just doesn't bother me. Maybe I'm just used to life in NY. I would think come spring (remember, it's all indoors up here at this point with the weather), the mask mandate will be lifted. Is it an inconvenience? yeah, a little bit. I'd rather NOT wear one, that's for sure.

But I also don't really care that much. It's really never bothered me much, in the grand scheme of things.

I'm not liberal, as evidenced by my postings on the political thread.. but I've always thought that at least 99% of "that side" just wanted people to take precautions, and they actually believed masks mattered. And maybe they were wrong in thinking that it mattered. But the way I viewed it, if it made people feel safer, whatever. If me wearing a mask put my community at ease, whatever.. no biggie for me.

I also looked at it as my way of "coming to the table" on a topic that they cared about. It was an easy way for me to concede and compromise. Now will we get that from them? Maybe (probably not lol), but that's kind of how I viewed it.

That’s fine if you don’t care, but you literally can’t get out of your own viewpoint and see why someone wouldn’t want to wear a cloth mask and would be angry at being forced to wear one for 2 years? That was my point. Not saying you fall in that category but I could totally see why someone would be annoyed/angry at it at this point. Like I can see where they’re coming from, especially if they have little kids.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

That’s fine if you don’t care, but you literally can’t get out of your own viewpoint and see why someone wouldn’t want to wear a cloth mask and would be angry at being forced to wear one for 2 years? That was my point. Not saying you fall in that category but I could totally see why someone would be annoyed/angry at it at this point. Like I can see where they’re coming from, especially if they have little kids.

I guess not. I can see why people are tired of it. And maybe this HAS gone on long enough. But I do know people were mad to wear masks even from day 1. Politics has turned extremely spiteful.

The kids thing for sure. So I'll definitely concede that. I don't have kids, and I got to work from home the entire time, so maybe I wasn't as affected by masks as I might have thought.

 

[Ron Mehico]

I guess not. I can see why people are tired of it. And maybe this HAS gone on long enough. But I do know people were mad to wear masks even from day 1. Politics has turned extremely spiteful.

The kids thing for sure. So I'll definitely concede that. I don't have kids, and I got to work from home the entire time, so maybe I wasn't as affected by masks as I might have thought.

I’m really just talking about the present. Like they literally just said cloth masks aren’t effective. And people and children are still being forced to wear them. Like what? Why? Why not just stick a banana peel up your ***? I mean what are we still doing. They literally said they don’t do anything lol

 

[KingOfBBN]

I also looked at it as my way of "coming to the table" on a topic that they cared about. It was an easy way for me to concede and compromise. Now will we get that from them? Maybe (probably not lol), but that's kind of how I viewed it.

Weird how it always goes one way. When has a leftist compromised on anything? Anything that's not 100% bowing down to the leftist orthodoxy is considered heresy. Why does everyone have to bow down to their neurosis? Their feelings? They sure don't give a **** to offer that courtesy or compromise to anyone else that's not in their club. You cannot demand someone cover their face when they are healthy and do not want to, simply because you're terrified (not you, in general).

They like to accuse someone else of being selfish when in reality, trying to force someone to do what you want them to do is the epitome of selfishness. None of us are asking anything of them yet they want to demand you mask up, double mask up, get shot after shot just to live your life. Pre 2020, this is how life was lived. Fast forward to non-stop indoctrination from government, Big Pharma, and their media now nearly half the population has a psychosis issue.

Hey, since it's a matter of consideration, let's just never let women uncover because it offends Muslims. They're very passionate about this topic. I'm sure it's not an inconvenience to anyone and their personal choice should not matter.

 

[Gassy_Knowls]

Why not just stick a banana peel up your ***?

That doesn't work either. Trust me.