OT: Grienke's absurd contract 6yrs 206 million just killed the Mets

[nutfromSEC117]

No chance to keep more than two or three. Two will have to be traded within two years. Keep deGrom, Noah and Matz. I want Rizzo or equal for Harvey , maybe Wheeler and prospect for Votto ?

Now back to championship Saturday.

 

[RickB113]

The Mets will only get that high a value if they trade Harvey now. If they wait until after this season to do it his value drops or they can just buck up and sign these guys now to long term deals while they are not free agents or even close to free agents.

 

[ScarletStateofNJ]

These are things to worry about after 2016.

 

[rufeelinit]

With Grienke's deal we may have past the $1MM per start threshold. Mets need to determine whether any of their young pitchers are willing to sign a long term deal that improves their salary significantly before being eligible for free agency but also eats into the first couple of years when the would be eligible. Better to sign them to longer term deals when young with less mileage than later. Boras has indicated he will not let his clients sign such a deal and if he is adamant where Harvey is concern than perhaps determining his value in a trade makes sense.

 

[Ridge 22]

No possible way the Mets can keep that rotation together long term. The going rate TODAY for a high end starter is $30M+ per year. At 4 pitchers, that is $120M just for those guys. They wouldn't be able to fill out a roster around them at those rates.The Met's have a 2-3 year window to win before these guys become too expensive and the process starts all over again.

 

[hinson32]

Votto for Wheeler. Dream on.

 

[Kbee3]

No chance to keep more than two or three. Two will have to be traded within two years. Keep deGrom, Noah and Matz. I want Rizzo or equal for Harvey , maybe Wheeler and prospect for Votto ?

Now back to championship Saturday.

The closer it gets to freedom day the harder it's gonna be to get anything near what Mets fans dream they can get for Harvey. The only way you get a guy like Rizzo is if he isn't tied up long-term to his team. And Wheeler is coming off of major surgery....caveat emptor. Syndergaard or Matz would fetch the Mets a young, quality bat...or two.
Here's hoping they do nothing and two or three years down the road wonder how it all fell apart and what happened to all of those World Series championships they were gonna win. Amazin.

 

[SouthJerseyRU]

First world baseball problems. As a Phillies fan, I wish we had the problem of wondering how to keep 4 excellent pitchers.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Not-for-nothing but non-Met fans have been trying to tell Met fans this all season long. Keeping these guys together simply wasn't going to happen (and I doubt in the plans...).

 

[Hap129]

They are all club controlled for the next 2-3years. Win now!

I would try and lock up deGrom now for a discount. Can probably get him to sign for 5 and $80-100 million right now. It's a win win for both sides. Harvey won't sign a deal early to test free agency. Get what you can out of him and let him walk unless you get an absurd deal offered for a bat

Matz and synderguard only have one year of service so I wouldn't even worry about their contract situation

 

[BoroKnight]

Greinke's contract has nothing to do with it. You think the contract Price signed wasn't enough to convince you? You think contracts from last year didn't tell you teams can't keep an entire rotation with that level of talent together?

Come on. Everyone knew this. Enjoy it while you have it. Besides, there's a better than even chance at least one of them will develop arm trouble. The future is rarely as good as you think it will be. Which is why no team, no matter how much money it has, in 2015 and beyond can afford to neglect it minor-league system.

 

[SHUSource]

First world baseball problems. As a Phillies fan, I wish we had the problem of wondering how to keep 4 excellent pitchers.

I'm a Phillies fan too, and we're actually in a much better financial situation to keep four top of the line starters - if only we had them!

 

[tico brown]

This Mets rotation has a chance to be a Billion Dollar Rotation by the time they all step up to sign their big deals:
-Harvey 7/35
-deGrom 7/35
-Syndergaard 7/30
-Matz 7/20?
-Wheeler 7/20?
7/140 x 5 $980m

Too bad they all won't be with the Mets. Try to lock up Syndergaard and deGrom now for less. Harveys gone no matter what so try to get as equal value as possible asap.

 

[tico brown]

First world baseball problems. As a Phillies fan, I wish we had the problem of wondering how to keep 4 excellent pitchers.

Ooooooooooooh... Two WS trips, one ring. I'm hoping the Mets wI'll get that before Harvey leaves. As long as your owner don't have a scumbag friend trying steal billions from victims, you guys will be ok.

 

[j_rc_93]

Harvey should absolutely be traded. Selfish players on a team sport is a bad combination. Get rid of Harvey in exchange for two or more players who are an upgrade over current roster. Only contract that should ever be offered Harvey is based on performance? Actually make it a million dollar per start contract, better yet tie is to a matrix of innings pitched and starts. So when his candy *** decides to take off a month or two of the season, he will lose a million dollars every time. No way should a team tolerate a player or agent dictating innings limits and player usage.

 

[graystork]

The Mets will never sign Harvey to a long term deal. Not with that moron of an agent he has.